Thanks for getting back to me Diane-

As a matter of fact, yes.

When Spambayes crashed OL2007 immediately after upgrading from OL2003, I
found that with UAC standard running under Vista, I could remove an addin,
but I could not add an addin - unless I launched OL2007 via 'Run as
Administrator'. [I suppose as the account is an administor account, I could
have also turned off UAC, but I'm hoping that is not necessary. I also can't
routinely launch OL2007 with 'Run as Administrator' because that locks OL2007
out of network drives mapped under the UAC standard user, where OL2007 is
told to store achived messages.]

Once I have installed the Spambayes addin, I can deactivate it, shutdown
OL2007, and immediately restart OL2007 as a UAC standard user, reactivate the
addin and it runs fine.

I don't like doing this because unless I also shutdown automatic
Send/Receive, Spambayes isn't active to catch all those initial emails (and
that's when most of the spam happens). BTW, if I shut down automatic
Send/Receive using 'Run as Administrator' OL2007 does not always respond to
changes - like restarting automatic Send/Receive - under UAC standard user.

OL2003 ran perfectly fine with Spambayes as a UAC standard user - so I don't
*think* UAC is the big villian here. And Spambayes runs fine with OL2007 as a
UAC standard user *provided* it is not active when OL2007 starts.

Maybe I'm off base, but it sure seems there is something different in how
OL2007 starts versus previous versions. If that difference can be identified,
I'm sure it can be provided for in the Spambayes code and recompiled.

OL2007's spam filter is merely okay. Combined with the Spambayes addin, spam
control is pretty darn good - and I routinely get 250-500 spam messages a
day. 'Merely okay' just isn't good enough.

I hope you can help identify what has changed with Outlook startup.

Jim Johnson

If I launch OL2007 with 'Run as Administrator', Spambayes will not crash
"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

Was spambayes installed (or reinstalled since it's an upgrade) while running
as admin?

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"Jim Johnson - Serenity Consulting"
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...
I love Spambayes, the open source spam filter that works as an Outlook
addin.
At least it works fine under Outook versions 97-2003, XP or Vista.
Under Vista, I just upgraded OL 2003 to 2007. The addin crashes OL2007 and
must be disabled unless I do the following:

UAC is active.
Run OL2007 as Administrator.
Using the Trust Center - Remove the addin, then Add the addin to
reinitiallize it.

Now Spambayes runs great. However, as soon as I close Outlook and restart
it
(either as a standard user under UAC, or via 'Run as Administrator' [RAA])
OL2007 will crash until I disable the addin.

Once the addin is disabled and OL2007 has started (either as standard or
RAA), I can go to help/disabled items and enable Spambayes, then use the
Trust Center and select the Spambayes addin for use - and it will run just
fine.

Obviously, OL2997 only has problems with this addin at start up. Any ideas
how to fix this so it can auto-start as before?

Making the addin inactive before shutting down Outlook does not help, and
I
don't know of any way to temporarily disable the addin shy of letting
OL2007
crash, then disabling the addin with OL2007. That's a very poor
work-around.