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Old September 16th 07, 07:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
TS Mathews
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Perhaps you travel in strange circles and feel some overwhelming need to
track down and verify who actually sent you messages. I just read the mail
and, if it sounds like the person I know, I assume it's from them. Unless
and until one of them suggests I send them money to help a Nigerian friend
of theirs get money out of the country, I'm not going to spend a lot of my
time worrying about whether or not they really sent me the message I'm
reading.

Hmmm, the more I think about your concern about people out to get you with
fake mail or newsgroup postings...you're not also having a problem with MI5
being out to get you, are you? :-)


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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"TS Mathews" wrote ...
I have no idea why you would make the totally incorrect assumption that I
allowed Choicemail to send the "challenge" message. Perhaps you're not
totally familiar with the program and don't realize that upon setting it
up, once can set it to NOT send a challenge message.


When investigating how C-R works, Choicemail was one of the available
providers at the time. However, after finding out how the challenges are
sent in the blind, I contacted them and a couple other C-R providers (I'd
have to go search Google Groups to find my old post) and forced them over
repeated communications to acknowledge their inability to know the true
sender when the e-mail is delivered using SMTP. They finally admitted
that C-R was a stopgap feature and suffered the problems that I noted. I
have yet to see them implement more intelligent algorithms in determining
the true sender.

I had a ChoiceMail account to investigate their service (and did the same
with BlueBottle) and, yes, I know that you can disable C-R. I also know
that many e-mail providers let users deselect the anti-spam filter that is
enabled by default when they create a new account but, again, the numbers
that do so are the vast minority. The "draw" of ChoiceMail, BlueBottle,
and other C-R enabled providers is the fact that they offer C-R so it is a
very good bet that anyone asking about using those C-R providers also has
left enabled the C-R feature. Since you threw in with a C-R provider, you
get blemished along with them. Yes, you could be the one of a few of the
uninfected on a leper colony but that doesn't change the behavior of
outsiders from avoiding the island to which you got dumped along with the
lepers.

C-R sucks. Using a C-R provider puts you in their company. You get
blemished by association. I don't see that you mentioned using a
well-known C-R provider but chose not to use their primary means of spam
filtering. If you are the exception and don't want to be lumped in with
the persona of a group to which you are associated then you had better
mention that you are the exception.

Someone who says they are a member of NRA very probably has a gun. Someone
that says they use a C-R provider very probably uses C-R. Don't expect
anyone to make assumptions that you are the exception.



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