There are no POP3 or SMTP mail hosts anymore for Hotmail.

POP3/SMTP mailservers for MSN mail is still around but only a very few
"legacy" customers have POP3 access to their accounts.
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~PA Bear


Vanguard wrote:
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"Carl G" wrote in message ...
I just got Qwest DSL about 3 weeks ago,with msn.
Is there a way around useing that lousey http mail server and keep
outlook express as it was with pop3 mail.

There are no POP3 or SMTP mail hosts anymore for Hotmail. Microsofts
dropped then something like 6 years ago. WebDAV scripting is used to
access Hotmail over HTTP, and Outlook and Outlook Express know WebDAV so
they can connect to Hotmail. However, you will need a paid Hotmail
account if it was created after 29-Nov-2004 since WebDAV access is
disabled for freebie Hotmail accounts created after that date. I believe
there are some 3rd party mail aggregating services that also have
scripted in WebDAV to access Hotmail accounts. I think HotPOP
(http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/) supports WebDAV: it used to be free but I
stopped using it when it became trialware and cost money ($18).

Why is using WebDAV such a pain? It's just another set of commands
within a script that get sent to the mail host and similar to how your
e-mail client sends commands to the POP3 and SMTP servers. The problem
isn't with WebDAV or HTTP. The problem is with the Hotmail service. You
don't have to use the e-mail service included by your Internet provider.