Thanks Vanguard,
I don't care fore msn either. When we install Qwest DSL setup it installs
msn Premium also. Which i promptly uninstall.
Well i guess i am going to have to get used to the msn http mail.
I installed Incredimail today and like that better then msn setup.
But nothing like good old OE.
Which is just what i got used to useing.
Guess they are all ok once you get used to them.
Thanks again guys

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Carl G
"Vanguard" wrote in message
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"PA Bear" wrote in message
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There are no POP3 or SMTP mail hosts anymore for Hotmail.

POP3/SMTP mailservers for MSN mail is still around but only a very few
"legacy" customers have POP3 access to their accounts.


Hotmail, which is what MSN uses now, dropped the POP3/SMTP mail hosts a
long time ago. MSN probably had their own POP3/SMTP servers before
cutting over to using Hotmail. So it is probably MSN that still has mail
hosts for grandfathered MSN accounts. Since the OP said they got Qwest
just 3 weeks ago, there's no way the OP is going to get access to whatever
"legacy" POP3/SMTP mail hosts may still exist.

Hotmail started July 1996. Microsoft acquired Hotmail around December
1997 (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p.../Hotmlpr.mspx).
On July 2002, Hotmail dropped access to POP3/SMTP servers. I don't know
what was happening over at MSN regarding their mail servers (I never got
suckered into using MSN just because Microsoft spewed it on the Windows
desktop). MSN switched from whatever they were using to then use Hotmail
which, by then, had no POP3/SMTP servers anymore. So if there are legacy
MSN users still able to access POP3/SMTP servers, they are remanants from
whatever MSN used before switching to Hotmail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotmail

The the OP, the short answer is: No POP for you.