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Old January 4th 08, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
CWLee
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Default .dbx Access Problem


Thanks again, Bruce - and thanks to Ken who posted with some
similar suggestions. First, Bruce, I'll address your
comments below, preceded by +++ symbols, and then I'll ask
some questions of both you and Ken about your common
suggestion.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:31 AM
Subject: .dbx Access Problem


Dragging the dbx file to the Desktop at the top of the

folder tree is the
correct way.

If the dbx file is Jeep.dbx, then the folder in OE should

be named Jeep.

Did you move the message store? That is not the default

location. See if you
have the correct location.


+++ Yes, I moved the message store a long time ago, and I am
sure I am correctly navigating to it when needed.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal

the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight

the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V

will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE

files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB)

are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,

you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel

| Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder

Options | View.

+++ I had already done that also, a long time ago.

If you are in the right place, then it seams that you have

done it right.

+++ Bruce says to open the Jeep folder in OE, and then close
OE whereas Ken says to open and then close the Jeep folder
before closing OE. I'll try it Ken's way to see if that
makes a difference.

+++ Ken says to move the Jeep.dbx folder "out of message
store." That may be the same step Bruce intended when he
spoke of moving the Jeep.dbx folder to the Desktop. It may
be that what I was doing was placing a copy of Jeep.dbx on
the Desktop, instead of removing Jeep.dbx from the message
store. My first indication of that is when asked to
overwrite, both the old and new .dbx files are the same
size. Ken's suggestion implies that the one being
overwritten should be zero.

+++ So, Bruce, could you confirm that I should use "cut and
paste" rather than "copy and paste" when moving the Jeep.dbx
folder to the Desktop. I'm uneasy about doing that unless
one or both of you assure me that is the proper method.

+++ Many thanks to both of you - again and again!

=======================

The only other choice now would be a retrieval tool.

Macallan Outlook Express Extraction:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/tools.htm#macallan

DBXtract:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

DBXpress: {much faster for large files}
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Bruce,

It still doesn't work.

The only thing I see different than your screen shot is

the
location of the message store folder. Your screen shot
shows it within the C drive, under an identity, and
apparently labeled Outlook Express.

On my computer the message store folder is on the D

drive,
and under my name. Thus there is no folder above it

labeled
Outlook Express - it has been renamed OEemail.

Earlier I was incorrectly following your directions, but

the
result has been the same when I dragged the Jeep.dbx

folder
to the Desktop heading on Windows Explorer, instead of

to
the "main" desktop.

I'm guessing that I'm not doing something correctly with
respect to creating the Jeep folder in the Outlook

Express
tree. I have tried it both nested within another

folder,
and directly under Local Folders. In each case after
creating the folder I open it (meaning I click on it)

and
then close Outlook Express by clicking on the X in the

upper
right corner.

Any other ideas?

I appreciate the time you have taken already with this.

============================

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: .dbx Access Problem


Irrelevant portions sniped


If not, see if the dbx
file for the folder still exists in the message

store
and
manually restore
it as follows.

+++ Yes, it still exists, and I tried the steps below

you
suggested.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the

missing
folder,
(Jeep.dbx) and drag it to the Desktop.

+++ Did that, and a small icon appears on the

desktop.


This is done totally within Windows Explorer. Drag the

Jeep.dbx file from
the message store opened in the right hand page and

drag
it to the Desktop
at the top of the Windows Explorer folder tree.




Open OE and create a folder with the
*exact* same name as the one on your Desktop,

(Jeep).

+++ Did that - and I wonder if it must be created

directly
under "Local Folders" or if it can be created

(nested)
within another folder, such as Cars?


It shouldn't matter, but you must click on that new

folder
to open it.



Open the new folder ...

+++ Did that, and the only message shown is that

"There
are
no items in this view." (My view option is set to

show
all
messages.)


You should see a message as you did. There are no

messages
in this view.



and then close OE.

+++ Did that.



By closing OE while the new folder was open.



Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and

drag
the file from the Desktop to the OE store folder

+++ Did that, and the icon remained on the Desktop,

after I
had dragged it to the store folder and released it.

(Maybe
I don't know how to drag and drop? I believe what I

was
doing was creating a "shortcut" on the desktop to the

.dbx
file within the store folder - is that what I was

supposed
to be doing?)



You may have been working with a shortcut. (Not exactly

sure how).

In Windows Explorer, you wanted to click on the Desktop

at
the top of the
folder tree to reveal all the Desktop icons in the

right
hand panel. Prior
to that, you wanted to expand the path to the message

store. (The Outlook
Express folder in Documents and settings).

To drag & drop, you grab the Jeep.dbx folder, with the

left mouse key, in
the right hand pane showing the desktop icons, and drag

it
over to the
Outlook Express folder in the left pane. The Outlook

Express folder will
turn blue if you are over it. Now let go of the key and

you should see the
overwrite prompt.


See the attached screen shot. If you expanded the path

to
the message store,
and then clicked on Desktop, this is what you should

see.
(Some folder names
different, of course).

Grab the Jeep.dbx file in the right pane and drag it

over
to the Outlook
Express folder in the left. Do you see the prompt?

Hope this helps.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA




... that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to
overwrite......."? Click
Yes.

+++ When I was prompted I did click yes.

+++ But the messages do not show when I go to OE and

click
on the folder that I created.

+++ Other ideas? Am I supposed to restart the

computer
after doing these steps?

+++ Thanks - I look forward to more guidance.

======================
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CWLee" wrote in

message
...

(I'm using Windows 2000/pro on a Gateway

Computer.)

I had a folder in Outlook Express with a title of

Cars,
and
a corresponding folder Cars.dbx viewable via

Windows
Explorer. The folder was getting large, so I

moved
various
messages into three newly created folders, Ford,

Chevy,
Jeep - at least I thought that was what I did.

However,
in
Outlook Express I now have only the folders Cars,

Ford,
and
Chevy - but no folder for Jeep. When I use

Windows
Explorer
I find Cars.dbx, Ford.dbx, Chevy.dbx, and

Jeep.dbx.
The
Jeep.dbx folder has ~7,000 KB of contents, which

seems
about
right.

My problem is how can I access the email stored in

that
Jeep.dbx folder, since there is no Jeep folder in
Outlook
Express?

(I created a new folder in Outlook Express, named

Jeep,
but
that didn't do it. Via Windows Explorer that

merely
resulted in a new folder titled Jeep(1).dbx.

having
75
KB.
Unsuccessful attempt.)

Any assistance appreciated.

--
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CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to

sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not

quotas,
and
promote for performance, not preferences.







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