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Old January 4th 08, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
CWLee
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Default .dbx Access Problem


Thanks, guys. I have been successful, thanks to both of you
and to a tiny bit of research on my own. What I discovered
may help you in your work with others, so I'll describe the
quirk involved.

In the final analysis I was not being able to DRAG the
Jeep.dbx file from the message store location to the
Desktop. Whenever I did that it left a copy of the Jeep.dbx
file in the message store location, as well as adding one to
the Desktop. I figured I must not know how to DRAG a file,
even though I had always believed that I was doing that
correctly, and even though I was doing exactly what Bruce
had described as the DRAG procedure. So, I went to
Windows-2000/pro help, and read all I could find on DRAG.
Guess what?

Per the help file, if one DRAGS a file from a location on
one disk to a location on another disk, the DRAG function
leaves a copy on the original disk. I believe both Bruce
and Ken were assuming that my message store was on the same
disk as Windows Explorer - but it is not. Windows Explorer
is on my C-disk, and a long time ago I had re-located my
message store to my D-disk. When I realized that this might
be the problem I then used the DRAG function to get the
Jeep.dbx file from the message store to another location on
my D-disk, and without leaving a copy on in the message
store location. The rest of the process worked as you guys
had described, and I how have completed the procedure
successfully.

Again, many, many thanks for taking the time to walk me
through what turned out to be an easy and straightforward
process.

Best regards.

==============================
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Inline, with some snipping

"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Thanks again, Bruce - and thanks to Ken who posted with

some
similar suggestions. First, Bruce, I'll address your
comments below, preceded by +++ symbols, and then I'll

ask
some questions of both you and Ken about your common
suggestion.



Did you move the message store? That is not the default

location. See if you
have the correct location.


+++ Yes, I moved the message store a long time ago, and

I am
sure I am correctly navigating to it when needed.


If you are in the right place, then it seams that you

have
done it right.

+++ Bruce says to open the Jeep folder in OE, and then

close
OE whereas Ken says to open and then close the Jeep

folder
before closing OE. I'll try it Ken's way to see if that
makes a difference.



It should work either way because the point is that the

folder must be
accessed once in order to get the overwritee prompt.



+++ Ken says to move the Jeep.dbx folder "out of message
store." That may be the same step Bruce intended when

he
spoke of moving the Jeep.dbx folder to the Desktop. It

may
be that what I was doing was placing a copy of Jeep.dbx

on
the Desktop, instead of removing Jeep.dbx from the

message
store. My first indication of that is when asked to
overwrite, both the old and new .dbx files are the same
size. Ken's suggestion implies that the one being
overwritten should be zero.




Ken & I meant the same thing, I just suggedted the Desktop

as a place to
drag it to. If you did not physically drag it out, (AKA

there was still a
Jeep.dbx in the store folder), then the operation will

fail. You want the
new folder to create a new dbx file when you drag it from

the Desktop to the
store folder. If one already exists, nothing will be

accomplished excepting
another file with (1) included in the name.



+++ So, Bruce, could you confirm that I should use "cut

and
paste" rather than "copy and paste" when moving the

Jeep.dbx
folder to the Desktop. I'm uneasy about doing that

unless
one or both of you assure me that is the proper method.




You should /not/ use cut and paste, or copy and paste. You

/must/ drag the
files.


This is another way of explaining how to import a single

folder. It may make
things clearer, or it may confuse you more. I hope it's

not the latter.

How to restore individual dbx files:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#imp1
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA






+++ Many thanks to both of you - again and again!

=======================

The only other choice now would be a retrieval tool.

Macallan Outlook Express Extraction:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/tools.htm#macallan

DBXtract:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

DBXpress: {much faster for large files}
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Bruce,

It still doesn't work.

The only thing I see different than your screen shot

is
the
location of the message store folder. Your screen

shot
shows it within the C drive, under an identity, and
apparently labeled Outlook Express.

On my computer the message store folder is on the D

drive,
and under my name. Thus there is no folder above it

labeled
Outlook Express - it has been renamed OEemail.

Earlier I was incorrectly following your directions,

but
the
result has been the same when I dragged the Jeep.dbx

folder
to the Desktop heading on Windows Explorer, instead

of
to
the "main" desktop.

I'm guessing that I'm not doing something correctly

with
respect to creating the Jeep folder in the Outlook

Express
tree. I have tried it both nested within another

folder,
and directly under Local Folders. In each case after
creating the folder I open it (meaning I click on it)

and
then close Outlook Express by clicking on the X in

the
upper
right corner.

Any other ideas?

I appreciate the time you have taken already with

this.

============================

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroups:

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: .dbx Access Problem


Irrelevant portions sniped


If not, see if the dbx
file for the folder still exists in the message

store
and
manually restore
it as follows.

+++ Yes, it still exists, and I tried the steps

below
you
suggested.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for

the
missing
folder,
(Jeep.dbx) and drag it to the Desktop.

+++ Did that, and a small icon appears on the

desktop.


This is done totally within Windows Explorer. Drag

the
Jeep.dbx file from
the message store opened in the right hand page and

drag
it to the Desktop
at the top of the Windows Explorer folder tree.




Open OE and create a folder with the
*exact* same name as the one on your Desktop,

(Jeep).

+++ Did that - and I wonder if it must be created
directly
under "Local Folders" or if it can be created

(nested)
within another folder, such as Cars?


It shouldn't matter, but you must click on that new

folder
to open it.



Open the new folder ...

+++ Did that, and the only message shown is that

"There
are
no items in this view." (My view option is set to

show
all
messages.)


You should see a message as you did. There are no

messages
in this view.



and then close OE.

+++ Did that.



By closing OE while the new folder was open.



Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and

drag
the file from the Desktop to the OE store folder

+++ Did that, and the icon remained on the

Desktop,
after I
had dragged it to the store folder and released

it.
(Maybe
I don't know how to drag and drop? I believe what

I
was
doing was creating a "shortcut" on the desktop to

the
.dbx
file within the store folder - is that what I was
supposed
to be doing?)



You may have been working with a shortcut. (Not

exactly
sure how).

In Windows Explorer, you wanted to click on the

Desktop
at
the top of the
folder tree to reveal all the Desktop icons in the

right
hand panel. Prior
to that, you wanted to expand the path to the

message
store. (The Outlook
Express folder in Documents and settings).

To drag & drop, you grab the Jeep.dbx folder, with

the
left mouse key, in
the right hand pane showing the desktop icons, and

drag
it
over to the
Outlook Express folder in the left pane. The Outlook
Express folder will
turn blue if you are over it. Now let go of the key

and
you should see the
overwrite prompt.


See the attached screen shot. If you expanded the

path
to
the message store,
and then clicked on Desktop, this is what you should

see.
(Some folder names
different, of course).

Grab the Jeep.dbx file in the right pane and drag it

over
to the Outlook
Express folder in the left. Do you see the prompt?

Hope this helps.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA




... that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to
overwrite......."? Click
Yes.

+++ When I was prompted I did click yes.

+++ But the messages do not show when I go to OE

and
click
on the folder that I created.

+++ Other ideas? Am I supposed to restart the

computer
after doing these steps?

+++ Thanks - I look forward to more guidance.

======================
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CWLee" wrote in

message
...

(I'm using Windows 2000/pro on a Gateway

Computer.)

I had a folder in Outlook Express with a title

of
Cars,
and
a corresponding folder Cars.dbx viewable via

Windows
Explorer. The folder was getting large, so I

moved
various
messages into three newly created folders,

Ford,
Chevy,
Jeep - at least I thought that was what I did.
However,
in
Outlook Express I now have only the folders

Cars,
Ford,
and
Chevy - but no folder for Jeep. When I use

Windows
Explorer
I find Cars.dbx, Ford.dbx, Chevy.dbx, and

Jeep.dbx.
The
Jeep.dbx folder has ~7,000 KB of contents,

which
seems
about
right.

My problem is how can I access the email stored

in
that
Jeep.dbx folder, since there is no Jeep folder

in
Outlook
Express?

(I created a new folder in Outlook Express,

named
Jeep,
but
that didn't do it. Via Windows Explorer that

merely
resulted in a new folder titled Jeep(1).dbx.

having
75
KB.
Unsuccessful attempt.)

Any assistance appreciated.

--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited

to
sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality,

not
quotas,
and
promote for performance, not preferences.









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