Wow, ass-u-meing you're not lying, I hope you're keeping a tally
of which ones do the damage, because it just isn't so.

Sorry for calling you on something like this, but ...
misinformation is always useless information. Your "rebuttal" is
like a child's reply, complete with lack of any verifiable data.

I don't think I care to waste any further time on you or your
misinformation; you obviously have a closed mind and do not wish
to know the truth, nor even find out what it might be.
First thing you can learn is the proper usages of "always"
and "never", followed by interpersonal skills, and then an open
mind to increase rather than stagnate your knowledge.

I stand by every statement I made; you're a simple dummy running
around Hogan's barn.

Pop



"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

I have to deal every single day with people who have lost their
messages because their antivirus software messed up their
message store.

If you had heard some of the genuinely sad stories from people
who lose thousands of messages then maybe you'd understand the
situation with OE.

steve

"PopS" wrote in message
...
I hear you Jim, and I know where you're coming from. But, I
could show you articles saying the exact opposite, MS articles
too, and many others. Problems with scanning incoming emails
are actually not problems with the scanner per sae but are
actually problems existing elsewhere.
I guess what I object to is a blanket "don't scan" incoming.
The majority of mahcines will handle it fine, and it's a much
earlier step in the process to catch something like that.

No problem; I won't belabor the point. Just differing
opinions, IMO.

Pop


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Antivirus scanning of incoming email has led to hundreds of
users having problems, all of which have been resolved by
disabling the scanning, or removing the offending antivirus
product. Your opinion of what is necessary for you does not
apply to everyone. For more information about the subject,
you might want to try reading the following section of an
article about the issue (approved by Microsoft for
publication):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...ion.mspx#EOAAC
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can
be helped.






"PopS" wrote in message
...
I have to respectfully disagree somewhat, although that may
be what needs to be done if the XP doesn't have the SP's
installed. In which case, there are other, much more glaring
holes in the OS, so NBD I guess.

Turning OFF Outgoing scanning makes sense very often,
especially with long mails or attachments. But INcoming
virus scans should not be turned off, IMO, and I haven't yet
found an updated properly installed XP system have any
problems with incoming mail scanning. If one does discover
that turning them off helps a particular circumstance, they
should still be turned back on unless/until it's verified
that's the ONLY way to retrieve the mail in question.
Personally, I'd be off looking for malware in such a case.

Some will say it's OK to turn off incoming scans because
the av sw will catch it anyway later on, but that's not
true with some of the stuff out there today; if it can get
onto the hard drive, it can hide and activate and get under
the radar to to speak because it morphs into something else
unbeknownst to the os.

Just my two cents, and a chance to voice an opposing view,
that's all. I was unaware of such morphing until recently
but there are a couple of strains that aren't detected due
to it by the time they reach the hard drive, and can then
execute. Unfortunately, I cannot cite references: I can't
find the danged things anymore. If I can locate them, I'll
come back and post them.

Regards,

Pop


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Error 0x800ccc0d or 0x800ccc0f or 0x800ccc19 when Receiving
or Sending E-Mail
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813514

Turn off the e-mail scanning in your anti-virus.
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...921552806?Open

You are still protected:
http://snipurl.com/bmf6

If you have an Anti-Spam program, that can also be the
cause of the error.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Jim Bunton" wrote in message
.uk...
I am getting the error below when I attempt to
send/receive email

ERROR
A time-out occurred while communicating with the server.
Account: 'Jim',
Server: 'pop3.blueyonder.co.uk', Protocol: POP3, Port:
110, Secure(SSL): No,
Error Number: 0x800CCC19


SEND alone works fine

I CAN receive my mail vial webmail (www.BlueYonder.co.uk)

I have tried rebooting
I have tried deleting the mail account and adding it again

--


Jim Bunton