can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
 

I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses Outlook.
Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
 

I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal publishing features.

FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar subscription and sharing support.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Amadomon" wrote in message ...
I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses Outlook.
Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my offic.
 

FOSS = Free Open Source Software.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:

| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
| publishing features.
|
| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
| subscription and sharing support.
|
|
| "Amadomon" wrote in message
| ...
|| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone knows
what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there, Outlook
'MVP'ers...

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

FOSS = Free Open Source Software.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:

| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
| publishing features.
|
| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
| subscription and sharing support.
|
|
| "Amadomon" wrote in message
| ...
|| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

I hate acronyms. It's one reason I couldn't stand to work for a government agency. g
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

FOSS = Free Open Source Software.

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can safely say
it is crap.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:

| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone
| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there,
| Outlook 'MVP'ers...
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:
||
||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
||| publishing features.
|||
||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
||| subscription and sharing support.
|||
|||
||| "Amadomon" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w world,
and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating toward FOSS
because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting a copy of Win XP
localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap out there, but remember
Windows ME? No matter what you think, just stick around; the trend is not in
Microsoft's favor. Increasingly, the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can safely say
it is crap.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:

| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone
| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there,
| Outlook 'MVP'ers...
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:
||
||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
||| publishing features.
|||
||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
||| subscription and sharing support.
|||
|||
||| "Amadomon" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about -
having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate
Microsoft's successful model.

HAve a good day.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:

| No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w
| world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating
| toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting
| a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap
| out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just
| stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly,
| the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can
|| safely say it is crap.
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:
||
||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone
||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there,
||| Outlook 'MVP'ers...
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
||||
|||| --�
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:
||||
||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
||||| publishing features.
|||||
||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
||||| subscription and sharing support.
|||||
|||||
||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message
||||| ...
|||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

You don't even know what software I am talking about, so how can you call it
second-rate? I have conceded that there is plenty of "crap" (as you
characterized it) out there, and I have also used qualifiers such as
"frequently" and said that *I* am not doctrinaire. I find this discussion
rather ironic, because I am usually on the other side of this argument
(albeit employing a nicer, less "scorched-earth" approach) with my hard-core
FOSS friends. But yes, that *is* what it is all about: customization--the
right tool for the job at hand. Have you ever tried to outfit 400 computers
for schools in sub-Saharan Africa? Can you imagine the licence expense, to
say nothing of the localisation costs? Add to that the hardware--and
power--needed to run bloated operating systems, when low-cost, lean,
customized OS's and apps exist (yes, with active local support) that can run
on flash memory, and your idea of "crap" and "second-rate" might change.

It truly is a Flat World, my friend. Companies like Microsoft, and the US
in general, ignore this at their peril. No one is trying to emulate
Microsoft; they're just applying the principle of Occam's Razor.

I run my OS, my email client, and my calendar app (among other apps) on a
USB key; wherever I go, regardless of native OS, I simply plug in my key
and--boom--there is "my" computer. Afterwards, I simply unplug my key and
off I go, leaving nothing behind. Try that with Outlook.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about -
having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate
Microsoft's successful model.

HAve a good day.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:

| No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w
| world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating
| toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting
| a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap
| out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just
| stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly,
| the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can
|| safely say it is crap.
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:
||
||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone
||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there,
||| Outlook 'MVP'ers...
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
||||
|||| --�
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:
||||
||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
||||| publishing features.
|||||
||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
||||| subscription and sharing support.
|||||
|||||
||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message
||||| ...
|||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?

can I use FOSS versions of calendar tools when others in my of
 

I might add, after looking at other Outlook-related discussion threads, that
I don't see much evidence to indicate that the MS product is in any way
superior. ("Outlook crashes when new appointment is saved in Outlook
Calendaring") After listening to you, I would expect that the brilliant
minds at Microsoft could do better than that. Finally (to return to the
original topic of this thread), I believe that either the current or else the
next version of Outlook will support the (open) iCalendar format. Who's
emulating whom?

"Amadomon" wrote:

You don't even know what software I am talking about, so how can you call it
second-rate? I have conceded that there is plenty of "crap" (as you
characterized it) out there, and I have also used qualifiers such as
"frequently" and said that *I* am not doctrinaire. I find this discussion
rather ironic, because I am usually on the other side of this argument
(albeit employing a nicer, less "scorched-earth" approach) with my hard-core
FOSS friends. But yes, that *is* what it is all about: customization--the
right tool for the job at hand. Have you ever tried to outfit 400 computers
for schools in sub-Saharan Africa? Can you imagine the licence expense, to
say nothing of the localisation costs? Add to that the hardware--and
power--needed to run bloated operating systems, when low-cost, lean,
customized OS's and apps exist (yes, with active local support) that can run
on flash memory, and your idea of "crap" and "second-rate" might change.

It truly is a Flat World, my friend. Companies like Microsoft, and the US
in general, ignore this at their peril. No one is trying to emulate
Microsoft; they're just applying the principle of Occam's Razor.

I run my OS, my email client, and my calendar app (among other apps) on a
USB key; wherever I go, regardless of native OS, I simply plug in my key
and--boom--there is "my" computer. Afterwards, I simply unplug my key and
off I go, leaving nothing behind. Try that with Outlook.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Dream on - have it your way - after all, that is what F/OSS is all about -
having choices from second rate software, which is always trying to emulate
Microsoft's successful model.

HAve a good day.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:

| No real need to respond to this. I too came from a proprietary s/w
| world, and am not doctrinaire, but I have gradually been migrating
| toward FOSS because frequently it is a better product. (Try getting
| a copy of Win XP localized into Bambara.) Of course there is crap
| out there, but remember Windows ME? No matter what you think, just
| stick around; the trend is not in Microsoft's favor. Increasingly,
| the FOSS tail is wagging the MS dog.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Yes, I know what F/OSS means, and having tried much of it, I can
|| safely say it is crap.
||
|| --�
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, Amadomon asked:
||
||| Silly Microsoft--does not play well with others. I am glad someone
||| knows what FOSS means. It's a great big wonderful world out there,
||| Outlook 'MVP'ers...
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| FOSS = Free Open Source Software.
||||
|||| --�
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] asked:
||||
||||| I don't know what FOSS is, but Exchange doesn't have any iCal
||||| publishing features.
|||||
||||| FWIW, the next version of Outlook will have substantial iCalendar
||||| subscription and sharing support.
|||||
|||||
||||| "Amadomon" wrote in message
||||| ...
|||||| I use a FOSS calendaring system, while the rest of my office uses
|||||| Outlook. Can I publish my .iCal file to our exchange server?