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JasonA April 1st 06 10:29 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
After re-installing XP, I restored my dbx files yet Outlook Express still
wants to download over 30,000 of messages which I would already have. How
can I prevent this?



Ron Sommer April 1st 06 12:47 PM

Restoring News Groups
 
Did you do a complete clone backup or did you just import the dbx files?
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

You can try replacing the newsgroup dbx files with the old dbx files, but
this doesn't always work.
--
Ron Sommer

"JasonA" wrote in message
...
After re-installing XP, I restored my dbx files yet Outlook Express still
wants to download over 30,000 of messages which I would already have. How
can I prevent this?





Bruce Hagen April 1st 06 04:23 PM

Restoring News Groups
 
If you want to download newsgroups, but don't want hundreds, or thousands,
of messages, you can create a message rule such as this:

ToolsMessage RulesNews.

Box 1: Where the message was sent more than days ago
Box 2: Delete it & Stop processing more rules
Box 3: Click on "Days" and choose the # of days you want.
Name the rule.

In ToolsOptionsRead - Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. When you go to,
or subscribe to a newsgroup, it will only download the messages for the
number of days you selected.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JasonA" wrote in message
...
After re-installing XP, I restored my dbx files yet Outlook Express still
wants to download over 30,000 of messages which I would already have. How
can I prevent this?




JasonA April 2nd 06 02:08 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
I'm not sure what you are meaning here - I already have downloaded the
headers at least (that's what's already in the dbx file). I need to prevent
then downloading a second time.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
If you want to download newsgroups, but don't want hundreds, or

thousands,
of messages, you can create a message rule such as this:

ToolsMessage RulesNews.

Box 1: Where the message was sent more than days ago
Box 2: Delete it & Stop processing more rules
Box 3: Click on "Days" and choose the # of days you want.
Name the rule.

In ToolsOptionsRead - Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. When you go

to,
or subscribe to a newsgroup, it will only download the messages for the
number of days you selected.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JasonA" wrote in message
...
After re-installing XP, I restored my dbx files yet Outlook Express

still
wants to download over 30,000 of messages which I would already have.

How
can I prevent this?






Jim Pickering April 2nd 06 02:26 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
You cannot "restore" old DBX newsgroup files and expect them to be
recognized by Outlook Express. Newsgroup subscriptions and the associated
DBX files for them are keyed to specific identities and those that are
readable in one identity are not readable in another identity unless you
have "cloned" your system as outlined at this website:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

Copy/paste of old DBX files from one system to another will not work for
newsgroups. Sorry, but you wasted your time doing so.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"JasonA" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure what you are meaning here - I already have downloaded the
headers at least (that's what's already in the dbx file). I need to
prevent
then downloading a second time.



JasonA April 2nd 06 02:49 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
The backup procedure includes the dbx files. So it looks like the 4 registry
items needs to be imported also so that OE knows where it is up to.
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
You cannot "restore" old DBX newsgroup files and expect them to be
recognized by Outlook Express. Newsgroup subscriptions and the associated
DBX files for them are keyed to specific identities and those that are
readable in one identity are not readable in another identity unless you
have "cloned" your system as outlined at this website:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

Copy/paste of old DBX files from one system to another will not work for
newsgroups. Sorry, but you wasted your time doing so.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...2D8-1171988A62
D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"JasonA" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure what you are meaning here - I already have downloaded the
headers at least (that's what's already in the dbx file). I need to
prevent
then downloading a second time.





Jim Pickering April 2nd 06 04:42 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
That's correct, but trying to do it "after the fact" may result in some
unintended errors. I'd be very cautious, if I were you or you may make your
situation worse.

Consider creating a clone of your old system in a new identity and then move
the old stored files into the message store folder for that identity and you
should be able to have it all. But remember, if it's been awhile since you
connected to those newsgroups, all messages that have been deleted from the
server in the interim, will also be deleted from your local copy DBX file
when you next connect to that newsgroup.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"JasonA" wrote in message
...
The backup procedure includes the dbx files. So it looks like the 4
registry
items needs to be imported also so that OE knows where it is up to.



JasonA April 2nd 06 06:42 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
Usually it is less than a week since the back-up was made. The restore
process would be:
Run OEQuick Backup to restore all files and registry entries then
Run Outlook Express
Not run OE then restore files.

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
That's correct, but trying to do it "after the fact" may result in some
unintended errors. I'd be very cautious, if I were you or you may make

your
situation worse.

Consider creating a clone of your old system in a new identity and then

move
the old stored files into the message store folder for that identity and

you
should be able to have it all. But remember, if it's been awhile since

you
connected to those newsgroups, all messages that have been deleted from

the
server in the interim, will also be deleted from your local copy DBX file
when you next connect to that newsgroup.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...2D8-1171988A62
D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"JasonA" wrote in message
...
The backup procedure includes the dbx files. So it looks like the 4
registry
items needs to be imported also so that OE knows where it is up to.





JasonA April 13th 06 11:09 AM

Restoring News Groups
 
One more step
"JasonA" wrote in message
...
Usually it is less than a week since the back-up was made. The restore
process would be:

Under Current User - Identities - Delete existing GUID identifier
Run OEQuick Backup to restore all files and registry entries then
Run Outlook Express
Not run OE then restore files.

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
That's correct, but trying to do it "after the fact" may result in some
unintended errors. I'd be very cautious, if I were you or you may make

your
situation worse.

Consider creating a clone of your old system in a new identity and then

move
the old stored files into the message store folder for that identity and

you
should be able to have it all. But remember, if it's been awhile since

you
connected to those newsgroups, all messages that have been deleted from

the
server in the interim, will also be deleted from your local copy DBX file
when you next connect to that newsgroup.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...2D8-1171988A62
D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"JasonA" wrote in message
...
The backup procedure includes the dbx files. So it looks like the 4
registry
items needs to be imported also so that OE knows where it is up to.








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