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"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?


Tools | Message Rules | Mail
Select the rule and click Apply Now.
Browse to Sent Items.
Click Apply Now.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
Please reply in newsgroup.

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Every rule has an Apply Now button. That said, IMHO, it is a waste of time.
It is quicker to click on one message in the Preview Pane and then Ctrl+A
will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and just drag them to
the folder you created to save Sent messages. You're done in ten seconds.

Automatic rules only apply to incoming mail.

Your questions about MS Outlook or Eudora would have to be addresses in a
forum for those e-mail clients.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system
folder
regularly, Am i correct?

Is there some other way - please inform.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the
mails
and data within?

Try to explain.

Akshay.

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What
I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:


"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what
abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically
saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily
basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.

It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent
2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply
them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

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Bruce Hagen wrote:
Every rule has an Apply Now button. That said, IMHO, it is a waste of
time. It is quicker to click on one message in the Preview Pane and then
Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and just drag
them to the folder you created to save Sent messages. You're done in ten
seconds.

Or you can right click on the selected messages and choose Move to
Folder and then choose the user created folder. Or you can put an icon
on the same bar as "send/receive" which will do the same thing.

Alias

Automatic rules only apply to incoming mail.

Your questions about MS Outlook or Eudora would have to be addresses in
a forum for those e-mail clients.

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Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

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"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

I don't know, but how would you ever find anything in a folder that large?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?


I think so.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
Please reply in newsgroup.

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iweb wrote:
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

I have no idea. I don't care for Outlook so I don't use it for email.

Alias

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?
No, you need to move them to another folder.
Is there some other way - please inform.
No.
Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?
No.
Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?
No.
Try to explain.

Akshay.
If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias
Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

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In my experience, 8,000 to 10,0000 messages are way too many for Outlook
to handle gracefully. Having a large number of message in a folder,
especially in the Inbox, can slow operations greatly.

I use Outlook at work because I must, and OE at home, by choice. I've
never experienced data corruption with either, so I can't say anything
about the relative chances.


iweb wrote:
So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

--
Gary L. Smith
Columbus, Ohio

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" mac" wrote in message
...

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have around 8000 plus emails in my Outlook Express 6 Inbox and around
10000 plus in the Sent Items. I use an IBM thinkpad P4 CPU with Windows
2000
Server as the OS.

Many a times while searching mails or opening the Inbox I get an in
sufficient memory error and only 4000 or 6000 mails are displayed. Have
to re
start the machine for all mails from the Inbox to be displayed.

Would like to know the following:

1) Why is this happening? Is this a hardware, software or OS error?
2) whats the solution, can outlook express handle this large size of
emails
or should i migrate to MS Outlook?
3) Can i set a Message rule that all messages I send automatically get
copied to a new folder which will reduce new mails in the Very huge Sent
Items folder?

Please guide.

Kind Regards,
Akshay.


To answer your Questions:

1) User error.


That's extreme. The error is that OE can't handle the huge amount of
information, so the user needs to be aware of that, but don't blame the user
for not knowing ahead of time, as OE gives no warning as to its limitations.


steve

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OE has its limitations. The really big limitation is no dbx file can exceed
2 gigabytes and when you reach that, the file gets corrupt and unreadable
and no messages can be recovered without a 3rd party extraction program.
But the problems can occur even before you get close to that size. OE in
its current manifestation was written in 1997, and no one imagined the huge
volume of emails and attachments that can bloat the message store, so when
it gets really big in a folder, that folder can easily become corrupted (one
byte change in the file can make it completely unreadable by OE).

So the guidline of 100 megs per folder began as my recommendation from
experience with testing large folders, and at that size you are likely to
have no problems. But above that size (very roughly), once can see
sluggishness of performance and an apparent greater tendency towards
corruption. So its better to parse the messages into smaller size folders.

That said, my sent items is currently 211 megs (yeah, I need to archive it
and start with an empty one), but I also backup with triple redundancy
almost daily with a single button click using OETool and OEQB (both free see
www.oehelp.com/OETool/). I also redundantly download all my mail on another
machine.

The other factors that contribute to the lack of stability of the message
store are compaction problems, which are reduced in newly released patches
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2) and interference from other programs such
as antivirus and antispam software that was not properly tested with OE and
is known to cause problems in functionality as well as massive message loss
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3).

So if you want huge folder sizes, then #1 backup frequently (which you
should do anyway to prepare for when the hard drive fails) and #2 get rid of
any 3rd party software that could interfere with OE. That should also save
you the cost of DBXpress. G

Hope that helps explain things a bit more.

steve

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system
folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc
or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB
and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the
mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders.
What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but
what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically
saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily
basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent
2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then
apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

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Hi Steve,

Then for a huge amount of data and emails, do you suggest I should migrate
to MS Outlook as its an Enterprise kind of Environment.

Pls guide.

Akshay.


"Steve Cochran" wrote:


" mac" wrote in message
...

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have around 8000 plus emails in my Outlook Express 6 Inbox and around
10000 plus in the Sent Items. I use an IBM thinkpad P4 CPU with Windows
2000
Server as the OS.

Many a times while searching mails or opening the Inbox I get an in
sufficient memory error and only 4000 or 6000 mails are displayed. Have
to re
start the machine for all mails from the Inbox to be displayed.

Would like to know the following:

1) Why is this happening? Is this a hardware, software or OS error?
2) whats the solution, can outlook express handle this large size of
emails
or should i migrate to MS Outlook?
3) Can i set a Message rule that all messages I send automatically get
copied to a new folder which will reduce new mails in the Very huge Sent
Items folder?

Please guide.

Kind Regards,
Akshay.


To answer your Questions:

1) User error.


That's extreme. The error is that OE can't handle the huge amount of
information, so the user needs to be aware of that, but don't blame the user
for not knowing ahead of time, as OE gives no warning as to its limitations.


steve