Right-clicking on [any] folder and clicking on "sharing & security" brings
up the folder's properties dialog with tabs of "general", "sharing", and
"customize". There is no security tab nor is there anywhere on any of the
three available tabs to show security/permissions.

Thanks,
Walter
"DGuess" wrote in message
...
Probably a permissions error on the store folder.

Right click on it then select Sharing and Security
Click on the Security tab and see who has permission to use it.
There should be Uses (Home\Users) with full control.



"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Frank -

It seems to have something to do with my XP user account called "Home".
I originally set XP up with both user accounts being an administrator. I
allocated the message store and got OE to work fine when it was an
administrator. When I changed the user account to be a limited account
(what I really want it to be) it stopped working. I just now changed it
back to administrator and it works. If I change it back to limited then
it fails.
So I need to research why this is happening for a limited XP user
account.

Might you know?

What I may try is allocate another folder in my Home account as a limited
user. Then restore/copy the original message store files into this new
folder and try it again. Perhaps the folder permissions are locked down
when in limited mode.

Thanks,
Walter
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
From http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/directdb.htm

Errors in DIRECTDB.DLL or MSOE.DLL generally indicate corruption in the
message store.
Start by moving Folders.dbx to an empty Windows folder (with OE closed).
Note: the DBX files are hidden in Win2K, WinXP and Win2K3. You will
lose your folder hierarchy and the lists of newsgroups on the news
servers, but it might get you into OE.

If that doesn't do it then move all of the DBX files to the same folder
as
Folders.dbx (again with OE closed). You should now get into OE. Try
importing the messages from
the folder you moved the DBX files to. If you can't, you can use this
tool
to extract the messages:

DBXtract ($5):
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/

Note: It can take a long time (days with really large folders).

The messages can then be dragged from the Windows folder back into a
folder
in an open instance of OE.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I managed to get everything working last night but this morning I am in
a bit of a bind.
Yes, I was referring to user profiles. I have two XP user accounts,
Home and User. Each account has one identity in OE.
I did copy each identities' message store to C: as a separate folder.
After installing a new hd and reloading XP I restored the message
stores and had OE point to those locations. Eveyrthing was ok last
night under both user accounts and each identity. However today when I
go into my Home account (non-admin, limited acct) OE comes up with an
error "OE could not be started. The application was unable to open the
OE message store. Your computer may be out of memory or your disk is
full". Here is the error code: 0x800C012E,5. After pressing OK on
that dialog box another comes up stating "OE could not be started
because MSOE.DLL could not be initialized".

Any ideas? It is only on my Home user account, my User user account
works fine.

Thanks,
Walter

"DGuess" wrote in message
...
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do see a complete backup button.
Also, I did get OEQB (oeqbfull.zip) from oehelp.com however, the
dialog box title says that it is Outlook Express Freebie Backup.

I also moved the current message store as you suggested to hang off
the root. I needed to do this for both identities though as the
software said it backed up only one identity. However, are you
saying that even if I had 100 identities it would still only say that
it backed up 1? What I did was run the backup under my admin account
identity, then I logged off admin and logged into my user account and
ran backup again to a different folder. Is this not what I should
have done?


When I use OEQB on this machine, I see in the status bar, 2 Identities
backed up. I have two Identities on this user profile. On the other
log in profiles, I have 2 or more as well. I wouldhave to log in to
those accounts to backup the message stores and info for those.

I think you are confusing Identities with user profiles. Each user
profile can have multiple OE Identities.

OEQB doesn't back up other user profiles that it isn't currently
logged into, only the Identities of the profile that is currently
logged into.

I do have the code to do this but not the time to implement. I won't
mention the revenue stream it produces, it's invisible.


So then all I need to do is backup to CD/DVD the message store and
when I load my new OS, configure OE to point to the new message store
folder and I should be good?


Backup the message stores for each user profile to a different folder.

I needed to enable the security tab from within Control Panel/Folder Options
on my Administrators account (USER).
I was then able to 'see' the tab and changed the permissions for it to
'full'.
I can now launch OE from my limited HOME account.

Thanks for your help!
Walter
"DGuess" wrote in message
...
open the Folders pane and right click on it from there.

View | Explorer Bar | Folders


"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Right-clicking on [any] folder and clicking on "sharing & security"
brings up the folder's properties dialog with tabs of "general",
"sharing", and "customize". There is no security tab nor is there
anywhere on any of the three available tabs to show security/permissions.

Thanks,
Walter
"DGuess" wrote in message
...
Probably a permissions error on the store folder.

Right click on it then select Sharing and Security
Click on the Security tab and see who has permission to use it.
There should be Uses (Home\Users) with full control.



"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Frank -

It seems to have something to do with my XP user account called "Home".
I originally set XP up with both user accounts being an administrator.
I allocated the message store and got OE to work fine when it was an
administrator. When I changed the user account to be a limited account
(what I really want it to be) it stopped working. I just now changed
it back to administrator and it works. If I change it back to limited
then it fails.
So I need to research why this is happening for a limited XP user
account.

Might you know?

What I may try is allocate another folder in my Home account as a
limited user. Then restore/copy the original message store files into
this new folder and try it again. Perhaps the folder permissions are
locked down when in limited mode.

Thanks,
Walter
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
From http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/directdb.htm

Errors in DIRECTDB.DLL or MSOE.DLL generally indicate corruption in
the message store.
Start by moving Folders.dbx to an empty Windows folder (with OE
closed). Note: the DBX files are hidden in Win2K, WinXP and Win2K3.
You will lose your folder hierarchy and the lists of newsgroups on the
news servers, but it might get you into OE.

If that doesn't do it then move all of the DBX files to the same
folder as
Folders.dbx (again with OE closed). You should now get into OE. Try
importing the messages from
the folder you moved the DBX files to. If you can't, you can use this
tool
to extract the messages:

DBXtract ($5):
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/

Note: It can take a long time (days with really large folders).

The messages can then be dragged from the Windows folder back into a
folder
in an open instance of OE.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I managed to get everything working last night but this morning I am
in a bit of a bind.
Yes, I was referring to user profiles. I have two XP user accounts,
Home and User. Each account has one identity in OE.
I did copy each identities' message store to C: as a separate folder.
After installing a new hd and reloading XP I restored the message
stores and had OE point to those locations. Eveyrthing was ok last
night under both user accounts and each identity. However today when
I go into my Home account (non-admin, limited acct) OE comes up with
an error "OE could not be started. The application was unable to
open the OE message store. Your computer may be out of memory or your
disk is full". Here is the error code: 0x800C012E,5. After pressing
OK on that dialog box another comes up stating "OE could not be
started because MSOE.DLL could not be initialized".

Any ideas? It is only on my Home user account, my User user account
works fine.

Thanks,
Walter

"DGuess" wrote in message
...
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do see a complete backup button.
Also, I did get OEQB (oeqbfull.zip) from oehelp.com however, the
dialog box title says that it is Outlook Express Freebie Backup.

I also moved the current message store as you suggested to hang off
the root. I needed to do this for both identities though as the
software said it backed up only one identity. However, are you
saying that even if I had 100 identities it would still only say
that it backed up 1? What I did was run the backup under my admin
account identity, then I logged off admin and logged into my user
account and ran backup again to a different folder. Is this not
what I should have done?


When I use OEQB on this machine, I see in the status bar, 2
Identities backed up. I have two Identities on this user profile. On
the other log in profiles, I have 2 or more as well. I wouldhave to
log in to those accounts to backup the message stores and info for
those.

I think you are confusing Identities with user profiles. Each user
profile can have multiple OE Identities.

OEQB doesn't back up other user profiles that it isn't currently
logged into, only the Identities of the profile that is currently
logged into.

I do have the code to do this but not the time to implement. I won't
mention the revenue stream it produces, it's invisible.


So then all I need to do is backup to CD/DVD the message store and
when I load my new OS, configure OE to point to the new message
store folder and I should be good?


Backup the message stores for each user profile to a different
folder.

Probably a permissions error on the store folder.

Right click on it then select Sharing and Security
Click on the Security tab and see who has permission to use it.
There should be Uses (Home\Users) with full control.



"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Frank -

It seems to have something to do with my XP user account called "Home". I
originally set XP up with both user accounts being an administrator. I
allocated the message store and got OE to work fine when it was an
administrator. When I changed the user account to be a limited account
(what I really want it to be) it stopped working. I just now changed it
back to administrator and it works. If I change it back to limited then
it fails.
So I need to research why this is happening for a limited XP user account.

Might you know?

What I may try is allocate another folder in my Home account as a limited
user. Then restore/copy the original message store files into this new
folder and try it again. Perhaps the folder permissions are locked down
when in limited mode.

Thanks,
Walter
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
From http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/directdb.htm

Errors in DIRECTDB.DLL or MSOE.DLL generally indicate corruption in the
message store.
Start by moving Folders.dbx to an empty Windows folder (with OE closed).
Note: the DBX files are hidden in Win2K, WinXP and Win2K3. You will
lose your folder hierarchy and the lists of newsgroups on the news
servers, but it might get you into OE.

If that doesn't do it then move all of the DBX files to the same folder
as
Folders.dbx (again with OE closed). You should now get into OE. Try
importing the messages from
the folder you moved the DBX files to. If you can't, you can use this
tool
to extract the messages:

DBXtract ($5):
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/

Note: It can take a long time (days with really large folders).

The messages can then be dragged from the Windows folder back into a
folder
in an open instance of OE.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I managed to get everything working last night but this morning I am in a
bit of a bind.
Yes, I was referring to user profiles. I have two XP user accounts,
Home and User. Each account has one identity in OE.
I did copy each identities' message store to C: as a separate folder.
After installing a new hd and reloading XP I restored the message stores
and had OE point to those locations. Eveyrthing was ok last night under
both user accounts and each identity. However today when I go into my
Home account (non-admin, limited acct) OE comes up with an error "OE
could not be started. The application was unable to open the OE message
store. Your computer may be out of memory or your disk is full". Here
is the error code: 0x800C012E,5. After pressing OK on that dialog box
another comes up stating "OE could not be started because MSOE.DLL could
not be initialized".

Any ideas? It is only on my Home user account, my User user account
works fine.

Thanks,
Walter

"DGuess" wrote in message
...
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do see a complete backup button.
Also, I did get OEQB (oeqbfull.zip) from oehelp.com however, the
dialog box title says that it is Outlook Express Freebie Backup.

I also moved the current message store as you suggested to hang off
the root. I needed to do this for both identities though as the
software said it backed up only one identity. However, are you saying
that even if I had 100 identities it would still only say that it
backed up 1? What I did was run the backup under my admin account
identity, then I logged off admin and logged into my user account and
ran backup again to a different folder. Is this not what I should
have done?


When I use OEQB on this machine, I see in the status bar, 2 Identities
backed up. I have two Identities on this user profile. On the other log
in profiles, I have 2 or more as well. I wouldhave to log in to those
accounts to backup the message stores and info for those.

I think you are confusing Identities with user profiles. Each user
profile can have multiple OE Identities.

OEQB doesn't back up other user profiles that it isn't currently logged
into, only the Identities of the profile that is currently logged into.

I do have the code to do this but not the time to implement. I won't
mention the revenue stream it produces, it's invisible.


So then all I need to do is backup to CD/DVD the message store and
when I load my new OS, configure OE to point to the new message store
folder and I should be good?


Backup the message stores for each user profile to a different folder.

See reply to other message.

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I managed to get everything working last night but this morning I am in a
bit of a bind.
Yes, I was referring to user profiles. I have two XP user accounts, Home
and User. Each account has one identity in OE.
I did copy each identities' message store to C: as a separate folder.
After installing a new hd and reloading XP I restored the message stores
and had OE point to those locations. Eveyrthing was ok last night under
both user accounts and each identity. However today when I go into my
Home account (non-admin, limited acct) OE comes up with an error "OE could
not be started. The application was unable to open the OE message store.
Your computer may be out of memory or your disk is full". Here is the
error code: 0x800C012E,5. After pressing OK on that dialog box another
comes up stating "OE could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be
initialized".

Any ideas? It is only on my Home user account, my User user account works
fine.

Thanks,
Walter

"DGuess" wrote in message
...
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do see a complete backup button.
Also, I did get OEQB (oeqbfull.zip) from oehelp.com however, the dialog
box title says that it is Outlook Express Freebie Backup.

I also moved the current message store as you suggested to hang off the
root. I needed to do this for both identities though as the software
said it backed up only one identity. However, are you saying that even
if I had 100 identities it would still only say that it backed up 1?
What I did was run the backup under my admin account identity, then I
logged off admin and logged into my user account and ran backup again to
a different folder. Is this not what I should have done?


When I use OEQB on this machine, I see in the status bar, 2 Identities
backed up. I have two Identities on this user profile. On the other log
in profiles, I have 2 or more as well. I wouldhave to log in to those
accounts to backup the message stores and info for those.

I think you are confusing Identities with user profiles. Each user
profile can have multiple OE Identities.

OEQB doesn't back up other user profiles that it isn't currently logged
into, only the Identities of the profile that is currently logged into.

I do have the code to do this but not the time to implement. I won't
mention the revenue stream it produces, it's invisible.


So then all I need to do is backup to CD/DVD the message store and when
I load my new OS, configure OE to point to the new message store folder
and I should be good?


Backup the message stores for each user profile to a different folder.