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N. Miller June 29th 06 07:21 PM

HTML only spam
 
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:42:32 -0400, Ted Zieglar wrote:

Ken_B wrote:


I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?


Tools Options Read checkmark in Read all messages in plain text.


How does that option block the spam? It makes it unreadable, to be sure;
but the spam is still downloaded from the server.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Ken_B June 29th 06 07:21 PM

HTML only spam
 
I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?




N. Miller June 29th 06 07:22 PM

HTML only spam
 
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:21:25 -0500, Ken_B wrote:

I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?


Short of running your own MTA, or switching to a different email client,
I can't think of anything that you could try. MS Outlook Express just
isn't designed for extensive filtering of email.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Ted Zieglar June 29th 06 07:42 PM

HTML only spam
 
Tools Options Read checkmark in Read all messages in plain text.


Ken_B wrote:
I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?




--

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Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Ken_B June 29th 06 08:18 PM

HTML only spam
 
In mail rules there are several "conditions" I can select, then I have
several options, one of which is to not download, or to delete from server.
But HTML ONLY is not one of them.

And about "Read all messages in plain text": There are many legitimate
messages, such as newsletters, that have text but have to be read in HTML
(Komando, for example). But IE6 will not let me open the HTML attachments.
(It used to - don't know what changed.

(I'm using ZoneAlarm firewall and AVG Free edition anti-virus).

Ken

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:42:32 -0400, Ted Zieglar wrote:

Ken_B wrote:


I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all
legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with
no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on
how
to block these?


Tools Options Read checkmark in Read all messages in plain text.


How does that option block the spam? It makes it unreadable, to be sure;
but the spam is still downloaded from the server.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum




DGuess June 29th 06 08:30 PM

HTML only spam
 
Because OE does not filter on HTML messages or part the HTML part of a
message. Never has. It will only look at the text part. Believe me, it's
been asked for since OE5.0, I know I asked during the beta.


"Ken_B" wrote in message
news:4QUog.93683$IZ2.84467@dukeread07...
In mail rules there are several "conditions" I can select, then I have
several options, one of which is to not download, or to delete from
server. But HTML ONLY is not one of them.

And about "Read all messages in plain text": There are many legitimate
messages, such as newsletters, that have text but have to be read in HTML
(Komando, for example). But IE6 will not let me open the HTML attachments.
(It used to - don't know what changed.

(I'm using ZoneAlarm firewall and AVG Free edition anti-virus).

Ken

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:42:32 -0400, Ted Zieglar wrote:

Ken_B wrote:


I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all
legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with
no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on
how
to block these?


Tools Options Read checkmark in Read all messages in plain text.


How does that option block the spam? It makes it unreadable, to be sure;
but the spam is still downloaded from the server.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum





Opinicus June 29th 06 09:33 PM

HTML only spam
 
"DGuess" wrote
..
Because OE does not filter on HTML messages or part the HTML part of a
message. Never has. It will only look at the text part. Believe me, it's
been asked for since OE5.0, I know I asked during the beta.


What OE really needs is a filter that says "Only download messages that
satisfy the following criteria".

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com



Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE June 30th 06 12:14 AM

HTML only spam
 
"Opinicus" wrote in message
...
"DGuess" wrote
.
Because OE does not filter on HTML messages or part the HTML part of a
message. Never has. It will only look at the text part. Believe me, it's
been asked for since OE5.0, I know I asked during the beta.


What OE really needs is a filter that says "Only download messages that
satisfy the following criteria".

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com


It would be nice, but it isn't there. Windows Mail (Vista) doesn't have it
either.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"



Robert Aldwinckle June 30th 06 01:27 PM

HTML only spam
 
"Opinicus" wrote in message
...
"DGuess" wrote
.
Because OE does not filter on HTML messages or part the HTML part of a
message. Never has. It will only look at the text part. Believe me, it's
been asked for since OE5.0, I know I asked during the beta.


What OE really needs is a filter that says "Only download messages that
satisfy the following criteria".




Technically, for POP3 connections that would be impossible.
The best it could do is use the TOP 0 command (when available)
to download and inspect only an E-mail's headers.

Supposedly what you're looking for may be more feasible using IMAP
but even then it's hard to imagine how you would be able to filter on HTML
content without first downloading it. ; )


Robert Aldwinckle
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Steve Cochran June 30th 06 01:54 PM

HTML only spam
 
That's the problem. People want the computer to read the message and not
download it if it has certain characteristics, but how do you read it
without downloading it? G

I wrote a server side filter when swen came out, but that still had to
access the message contents first as well (although it was easy to filter
swen).

steve

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Opinicus" wrote in message
...
"DGuess" wrote
.
Because OE does not filter on HTML messages or part the HTML part of a
message. Never has. It will only look at the text part. Believe me, it's
been asked for since OE5.0, I know I asked during the beta.


What OE really needs is a filter that says "Only download messages that
satisfy the following criteria".




Technically, for POP3 connections that would be impossible.
The best it could do is use the TOP 0 command (when available)
to download and inspect only an E-mail's headers.

Supposedly what you're looking for may be more feasible using IMAP
but even then it's hard to imagine how you would be able to filter on HTML
content without first downloading it. ; )


Robert Aldwinckle
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