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glocke July 15th 06 12:52 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power button down),
when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not in OE, and
neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were there..
After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new folders...I found
the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent box are
still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the size of my
inbox bfore it went away)...

How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system restore to two
days ago and that did not work...

If possible, can you email me replies?

thanks

Bruce Hagen July 15th 06 04:23 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us

If not:

DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"glocke" wrote in message
...
my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power button
down),
when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not in OE,
and
neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were there..
After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new folders...I found
the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent box are
still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the size of
my
inbox bfore it went away)...

How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system restore to
two
days ago and that did not work...

If possible, can you email me replies?

thanks



DSG July 15th 06 07:18 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
Regarding Compacting folders in http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx which you
noted, I just compacted my folders with the proper preparation (because I'm
hounded with the compacting message every time I close OE. After a
relaunch, I went to regedit to turn the number back to 0. As we expect, it
still shows (214) and when I doubleclicked on "Compact Check Count" in the
right pane, it didn't say 214, it said d6. Since it has a lower case
letter with the number, can I go ahead and delete "d6" and enter the zero? I
really expected it to say 214.
DSG


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
: The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
: compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and
bloated
: folders. More on that below.
:
: Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
:
: Why Mail Disappears:
: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
:
: About File Corruption:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
:
: Recovery tools:
:
: If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us
:
: If not:
:
: DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
:
: And see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
:
: A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
: corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
: folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup and Resto
:
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS MVP - Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "glocke" wrote in message
: ...
: my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power button
: down),
: when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not in OE,
: and
: neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were
there..
: After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new folders...I
found
: the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent box are
: still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the size of
: my
: inbox bfore it went away)...
:
: How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system restore to
: two
: days ago and that did not work...
:
: If possible, can you email me replies?
:
: thanks
:



Bruce Hagen July 15th 06 07:31 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
I would say that you can change it to zero, although I am not sure how it
ended up d6.

Since you are *almost* fully patched, download this one and unlike now, when
you manually compact, it will reset the counter to zero.

Patch KB918651:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"DSG" wrote in message
...
Regarding Compacting folders in http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx which
you
noted, I just compacted my folders with the proper preparation (because
I'm
hounded with the compacting message every time I close OE. After a
relaunch, I went to regedit to turn the number back to 0. As we expect,
it
still shows (214) and when I doubleclicked on "Compact Check Count" in the
right pane, it didn't say 214, it said d6. Since it has a lower case
letter with the number, can I go ahead and delete "d6" and enter the zero?
I
really expected it to say 214.
DSG


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
: The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
: compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and
bloated
: folders. More on that below.
:
: Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
:
: Why Mail Disappears:
: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
:
: About File Corruption:
:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
:
: Recovery tools:
:
: If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us
:
: If not:
:
: DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
:
: And see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
:
: A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
: corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
: folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup and Resto
:
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS MVP - Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "glocke" wrote in message
: ...
: my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power
button
: down),
: when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not in
OE,
: and
: neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were
there..
: After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new folders...I
found
: the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent box
are
: still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the size
of
: my
: inbox bfore it went away)...
:
: How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system restore
to
: two
: days ago and that did not work...
:
: If possible, can you email me replies?
:
: thanks
:




Michael Santovec July 15th 06 07:42 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
d6 is a hexadecimal number which is equal to 214 in decimal. On the
main screen it probably showed
x000000d6 (214). When you go to edit it, the dialog shows the base
defaulting to hexadecimal.

In any case, 0 is the same in either base.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"DSG" wrote in message
...
Regarding Compacting folders in http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx
which you
noted, I just compacted my folders with the proper preparation
(because I'm
hounded with the compacting message every time I close OE. After a
relaunch, I went to regedit to turn the number back to 0. As we
expect, it
still shows (214) and when I doubleclicked on "Compact Check Count" in
the
right pane, it didn't say 214, it said d6. Since it has a lower case
letter with the number, can I go ahead and delete "d6" and enter the
zero? I
really expected it to say 214.
DSG


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
: The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of
the
: compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and
bloated
: folders. More on that below.
:
: Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
:
: Why Mail Disappears:
: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
:
: About File Corruption:
:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
:
: Recovery tools:
:
: If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us
:
: If not:
:
: DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
:
: And see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
:
: A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the
futu
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
: folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup and Resto
:
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS MVP - Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "glocke" wrote in message
: ...
: my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power
button
: down),
: when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not
in OE,
: and
: neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were
there..
: After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new
folders...I
found
: the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent
box are
: still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the
size of
: my
: inbox bfore it went away)...
:
: How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system
restore to
: two
: days ago and that did not work...
:
: If possible, can you email me replies?
:
: thanks
:





DSG July 15th 06 08:05 PM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 
Thank you both. I guess we've all learned something this morning. I feel
quite safe, now, in going ahead.
DSG
.......................
"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
: d6 is a hexadecimal number which is equal to 214 in decimal. On the
: main screen it probably showed
: x000000d6 (214). When you go to edit it, the dialog shows the base
: defaulting to hexadecimal.
:
: In any case, 0 is the same in either base.
:
: --
:
: Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
:
:
: "DSG" wrote in message
: ...
: Regarding Compacting folders in http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx
: which you
: noted, I just compacted my folders with the proper preparation
: (because I'm
: hounded with the compacting message every time I close OE. After a
: relaunch, I went to regedit to turn the number back to 0. As we
: expect, it
: still shows (214) and when I doubleclicked on "Compact Check Count" in
: the
: right pane, it didn't say 214, it said d6. Since it has a lower case
: letter with the number, can I go ahead and delete "d6" and enter the
: zero? I
: really expected it to say 214.
: DSG
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: : The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of
: the
: : compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and
: bloated
: : folders. More on that below.
: :
: : Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
: : http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
: :
: : Why Mail Disappears:
: : http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
: :
: : About File Corruption:
: :
:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
: :
: : Recovery tools:
: :
: : If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
: : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us
: :
: : If not:
: :
: : DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
: : http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
: :
: : And see:
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
: :
: : A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the
: futu
: :
: : Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
: become
: : corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
: move
: : your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created
: : folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
: :
: : And backup often.
: :
: : Backup and Resto
: :
: : http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
: :
: : http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
: :
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS MVP - Outlook Express
: : ~IB-CA~
: :
: : "glocke" wrote in message
: : ...
: : my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power
: button
: : down),
: : when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not
: in OE,
: : and
: : neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were
: there..
: : After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new
: folders...I
: found
: : the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent
: box are
: : still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the
: size of
: : my
: : inbox bfore it went away)...
: :
: : How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system
: restore to
: : two
: : days ago and that did not work...
: :
: : If possible, can you email me replies?
: :
: : thanks
: :
:
:
:
:



dianne July 21st 06 06:28 AM

Had to do a hard restart, OE inbox and sent box is gone
 

"DSG" wrote in message
...
Regarding Compacting folders in http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx which
you
noted, I just compacted my folders with the proper preparation (because
I'm
hounded with the compacting message every time I close OE. After a
relaunch, I went to regedit to turn the number back to 0. As we expect,
it
still shows (214) and when I doubleclicked on "Compact Check Count" in the
right pane, it didn't say 214, it said d6. Since it has a lower case
letter with the number, can I go ahead and delete "d6" and enter the zero?
I
really expected it to say 214.
DSG


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
: The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
: compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and
bloated
: folders. More on that below.
:
: Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
:
: Why Mail Disappears:
: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
:
: About File Corruption:
:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
:
: Recovery tools:
:
: If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us
:
: If not:
:
: DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
:
: And see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
:
: A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
: corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
: folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup and Resto
:
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS MVP - Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "glocke" wrote in message
: ...
: my PC froze yesterday, and I had to do a hard restart (hold power
button
: down),
: when it restarted, my inbox containing all my saved mail was not in
OE,
: and
: neither was the sent box, although my subfolders that I made were
there..
: After I got an email, both reappeared, but these are new folders...I
found
: the OE directory, and it looks slike the original inbox and sent box
are
: still there (there is an inbox.dbx file thre that is 176 mb, the size
of
: my
: inbox bfore it went away)...
:
: How can I get these messages restored? I tried doing a system restore
to
: two
: days ago and that did not work...
:
: If possible, can you email me replies?
:
: thanks
:






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