Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for
Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more accurate
Subject....

Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a message
body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to access
the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE to
filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?

Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some
sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that makes
a difference.

--
Thanks for the help!
Janet

Hi Janeth,

You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1 thru 0
in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
message.

Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
news | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for
| Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
accurate
| Subject....
|
| Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
message
| body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
access
| the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE
to
| filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
|
| Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some
| sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
makes
| a difference.
|
| --
| Thanks for the help!
| Janet

What a clever idea! I will give it a try and report back...:-)....

Thanks for the help!
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Hi Janeth,

You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1 thru 0
in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
message.

Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
news | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for
| Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
accurate
| Subject....
|
| Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
message
| body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
access
| the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE
to
| filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
|
| Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some
| sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
makes
| a difference.
|
| --
| Thanks for the help!
| Janet

Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would not
select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would
remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule
conditions?
--
Thanks for the help,
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Hi Janeth,

You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1 thru 0
in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
message.

Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
news | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for
| Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
accurate
| Subject....
|
| Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
message
| body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
access
| the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE
to
| filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
|
| Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some
| sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
makes
| a difference.
|
| --
| Thanks for the help!
| Janet

This is a Message Body rule, correct? Here's how to do it for a blank
Subject, From, To & CC and Message Body.

For Blank Subject:

Box 1 - Where the Subject line contains specific words
Box 2 - Delete it from server
Box 3 - Click on the blue "Contains specific words" and Add *one at a time*
a, e, i, o, u, y, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
Click: Options and change to: Does not contain....

{This is how it's been suggested to create the rule for a long time. I
include the entire alphabet so an e-mail with a subject like XP will not be
rejected).

For Blank From: See rule #1, and
For Blank To & CC: See rule # 2 he
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

For Blank Message Body, Do the same as Blank Subject, but for the action,
choose: Delete It and Stop processing more rules, as the message has to be
download for the rule to realize the message body is blank.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Janetb" wrote in message
...
Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would
not
select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would
remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule
conditions?
--
Thanks for the help,
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Hi Janeth,

You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1 thru
0
in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
message.

Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
news | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule
for
| Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
accurate
| Subject....
|
| Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
message
| body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
access
| the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in
OE
to
| filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
|
| Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or
some
| sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
makes
| a difference.
|
| --
| Thanks for the help!
| Janet

Message Rule....

1: Select, Where the message body contains specific words.

2: Select, Move to specific folder (just for test purpose)

3: Select, Where the message body does not contain 'a' or 'e' or 'i' or 'o'
or 'u' or '1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9' or '0'

In number 3 above, after you add "a", Options will change from grayed out,
click it to select "does not contain".

Hope this helps,
Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
...

| Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would
not
| select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would
| remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule
| conditions?
| --
| Thanks for the help,
| Janet
|
|
| "Ken" wrote:
|
| Hi Janeth,
|
| You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1
thru 0
| in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
| message.
|
| Ken
|
| "Janetb" wrote in message
| news | | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule
for
| | Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
| accurate
| | Subject....
| |
| | Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
| message
| | body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
| access
| | the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in
OE
| to
| | filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| | Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
| |
| | Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or
some
| | sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| | replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
| makes
| | a difference.
| |
| | --
| | Thanks for the help!
| | Janet
|
|
|

"Janetb" wrote in message
news
Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for
Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
accurate
Subject....

Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
message
body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
access
the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE
to
filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?

Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some
sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
makes
a difference.

--
Thanks for the help!
Janet

Hi Janet
I did read your other post but you did not qualify the type/format of the
spam you were getting, otherwise I would have given you my input(for what it
is worth)
I now believe what you are getting is the .gif type spam i.e. it is to all
intents a picture and NOT text - hence message rules as commonly used will
have no effect.
Some months back when this type became more prevalent, I posted the
suggestion(not mine)that message rules could work, but it was a very
'long-winded' job.
In message rules, you stipulate blocking any message that does 'not contain'
a letter of the alphabet, since this type of email has no letters. You need
to do one rule for each letter.
You can add numbers one to ten if you wish.
This does work - I have not tried it though - according to feedback.
The other alternative is to contact your ISP - they may provide a spam block
service where all suspect spam is put into your Mail Box.
The odd one or two might get through, but if you get 20+ per day you will be
more than happy to only get one or two.
Not all ISPs can block .gif spam - yet. Some still have no spam blocking
service at all.
Those ISPs who do have this spam blocking service, as the norm, expect you
to go to your mail box and check for any genuine emails that may have got
pulled in with the spam.
My ISP will delete all spam in my mail box every 7 days, by date age.
Rgds
Antioch

DEAR BRUCE and KEN,

I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these
letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of nonsense
(ie streams of phrases or words, always different) following the solid block.
This nonsense part of the letter is proper text, so the rules will not pick
out the email......

Thanks for showing me you get the Options after Adding.

So the problem still stands......
--
Thanks for the help!
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Message Rule....

1: Select, Where the message body contains specific words.

2: Select, Move to specific folder (just for test purpose)

3: Select, Where the message body does not contain 'a' or 'e' or 'i' or 'o'
or 'u' or '1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9' or '0'

In number 3 above, after you add "a", Options will change from grayed out,
click it to select "does not contain".

Hope this helps,
Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
...

| Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would
not
| select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would
| remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule
| conditions?
| --
| Thanks for the help,
| Janet
|
|
| "Ken" wrote:
|
| Hi Janeth,
|
| You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1
thru 0
| in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
| message.
|
| Ken
|
| "Janetb" wrote in message
| news | | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule
for
| | Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more
| accurate
| | Subject....
| |
| | Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
| message
| | body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to
| access
| | the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in
OE
| to
| | filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| | Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
| |
| | Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or
some
| | sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than
| | replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that
| makes
| | a difference.
| |
| | --
| | Thanks for the help!
| | Janet
|
|
|

Ah. I thought it was a blank message body you were referring to. Other that
a spam program, you can see if any of these message rule ideas are helpful,
but none will address this specific problem only.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Janetb" wrote in message
...
DEAR BRUCE and KEN,

I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these
letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of
nonsense
(ie streams of phrases or words, always different) following the solid
block.
This nonsense part of the letter is proper text, so the rules will not
pick
out the email......

Thanks for showing me you get the Options after Adding.

So the problem still stands......
--
Thanks for the help!
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Message Rule....

1: Select, Where the message body contains specific words.

2: Select, Move to specific folder (just for test purpose)

3: Select, Where the message body does not contain 'a' or 'e' or 'i' or
'o'
or 'u' or '1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9' or
'0'

In number 3 above, after you add "a", Options will change from grayed
out,
click it to select "does not contain".

Hope this helps,
Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
...

| Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule
would
not
| select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it
would
| remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the
rule
| conditions?
| --
| Thanks for the help,
| Janet
|
|
| "Ken" wrote:
|
| Hi Janeth,
|
| You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1
thru 0
| in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
| message.
|
| Ken
|
| "Janetb" wrote in message
| news | | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message
Rule
for
| | Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a
more
| accurate
| | Subject....
| |
| | Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
| message
| | body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way
to
| access
| | the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule
in
OE
| to
| | filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| | Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
| |
| | Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE
or
some
| | sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather
than
| | replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if
that
| makes
| | a difference.
| |
| | --
| | Thanks for the help!
| | Janet
|
|
|

Your post states 'non-text' ??????
Antioch

"Janetb" wrote in message
...
DEAR BRUCE and KEN,

I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these
letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of
nonsense
(ie streams of phrases or words, always different) following the solid
block.
This nonsense part of the letter is proper text, so the rules will not
pick
out the email......

Thanks for showing me you get the Options after Adding.

So the problem still stands......
--
Thanks for the help!
Janet


"Ken" wrote:

Message Rule....

1: Select, Where the message body contains specific words.

2: Select, Move to specific folder (just for test purpose)

3: Select, Where the message body does not contain 'a' or 'e' or 'i' or
'o'
or 'u' or '1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9' or
'0'

In number 3 above, after you add "a", Options will change from grayed
out,
click it to select "does not contain".

Hope this helps,
Ken

"Janetb" wrote in message
...

| Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule
would
not
| select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it
would
| remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the
rule
| conditions?
| --
| Thanks for the help,
| Janet
|
|
| "Ken" wrote:
|
| Hi Janeth,
|
| You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1
thru 0
| in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam
| message.
|
| Ken
|
| "Janetb" wrote in message
| news | | Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message
Rule
for
| | Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a
more
| accurate
| | Subject....
| |
| | Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a
| message
| | body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way
to
| access
| | the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule
in
OE
| to
| | filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their
| | Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
| |
| | Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE
or
some
| | sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather
than
| | replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if
that
| makes
| | a difference.
| |
| | --
| | Thanks for the help!
| | Janet
|
|
|