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  #1  
Old August 28th 06, 04:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
shakey
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Posts: 69
Default compact messages

When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is persistent even
if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded and I am
curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture quality.
SG


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Old August 28th 06, 04:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Posts: 10,210
Default compact messages

Compacting does not remove message, or degrade pictures, it just frees up
the space that deleted messages takes up. Read on.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete messages, they are only marked for deletion and the space they
had used, remains until you compact, or the space is eventually overwritten.

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do and don't touch anything until it has finished. See this for
more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

If you haven't already done so, download this patch. It is not at Windows
Updates yet, but you can get it now.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in WinXP/SP2
and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a temporary
backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"shakey" shakeyATsonic.net wrote in message
...
When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is persistent
even if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded and I am
curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture quality.
SG


  #3  
Old August 28th 06, 07:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
chathp
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Posts: 8
Default compact messages

Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread (27/08/06), my
case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the inbox suspectedly due
to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Compacting does not remove message, or degrade pictures, it just frees up
the space that deleted messages takes up. Read on.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete messages, they are only marked for deletion and the space they
had used, remains until you compact, or the space is eventually overwritten.

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do and don't touch anything until it has finished. See this for
more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

If you haven't already done so, download this patch. It is not at Windows
Updates yet, but you can get it now.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in WinXP/SP2
and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a temporary
backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"shakey" shakeyATsonic.net wrote in message
...
When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is persistent
even if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded and I am
curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture quality.
SG



  #4  
Old August 28th 06, 11:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Kath Adams
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Posts: 178
Default compact messages

Please do not append to someone else's thread, continue your own.
Having said that, you received various suggestions in your original
thread, the best of which was to use DBXpress to recover the lost mail.
There is no other way to "find" the lost messages.
--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)


chathp wrote:
Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread
(27/08/06), my case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the
inbox suspectedly due to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Compacting does not remove message, or degrade pictures, it just
frees up the space that deleted messages takes up. Read on.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE
functioning well and at some point, you may lose all your saved
messages if you don't. When you delete messages, they are only
marked for deletion and the space they had used, remains until you
compact, or the space is eventually overwritten.

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to
problems it caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100
OE closings, which you should do and don't touch anything until it
has finished. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined
folders for storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted
Items folder regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and
Default folders as empty as is feasible.

If you haven't already done so, download this patch. It is not at
Windows Updates yet, but you can get it now.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2 and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin
as a temporary backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed.
See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a
downloadable Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"shakey" shakeyATsonic.net wrote in message
...
When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is
persistent even if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded
and I am curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture
quality.
SG


  #5  
Old August 28th 06, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default compact messages

Make sure you get the update mentioned he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2


steve

"chathp" wrote in message
...
Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread (27/08/06),
my
case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the inbox suspectedly
due
to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Compacting does not remove message, or degrade pictures, it just frees up
the space that deleted messages takes up. Read on.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning
well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't.
When
you delete messages, they are only marked for deletion and the space they
had used, remains until you compact, or the space is eventually
overwritten.

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do and don't touch anything until it has finished. See this
for
more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

If you haven't already done so, download this patch. It is not at Windows
Updates yet, but you can get it now.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2
and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a temporary
backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"shakey" shakeyATsonic.net wrote in message
...
When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is persistent
even if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded and I
am
curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture quality.
SG




  #6  
Old August 28th 06, 03:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pop`
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Posts: 91
Default Aside to Keith compact messages

Kath Adams wrote:
Please do not append to someone else's thread, continue your own.
Having said that, you received various suggestions in your original
thread, the best of which was to use DBXpress to recover the lost
mail. There is no other way to "find" the lost messages.

chathp wrote:
Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread
(27/08/06), my case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the
inbox suspectedly due to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

....

Personally I think your use of the ether would have been better served with
a link if reasonable, or mention that a link already posted might help, or
even a mention of where the files might reside, or no post at all. He was
hoping for an aside, I think, and the only comment I would make is that he
should have mentioned it in the Subjet line as a drift or something similar.

Regards,

Pop`




  #7  
Old August 28th 06, 03:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ted Zieglar
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Posts: 116
Default Aside to Keith compact messages

Keith? Kath?

Nobody uses "ether" in this group...we're not anesthesiologists. Even
anesthesiologists don't use ether anymore.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Pop` wrote:
Kath Adams wrote:
Please do not append to someone else's thread, continue your own.
Having said that, you received various suggestions in your original
thread, the best of which was to use DBXpress to recover the lost
mail. There is no other way to "find" the lost messages.

chathp wrote:
Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread
(27/08/06), my case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the
inbox suspectedly due to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

...

Personally I think your use of the ether would have been better served with
a link if reasonable, or mention that a link already posted might help, or
even a mention of where the files might reside, or no post at all. He was
hoping for an aside, I think, and the only comment I would make is that he
should have mentioned it in the Subjet line as a drift or something similar.

Regards,

Pop`




  #8  
Old August 28th 06, 04:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Posts: 10,210
Default compact messages

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are using a fully patched version of XP/SP2, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069/en-us

If not:

DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"chathp" wrote in message
...
Hi there. Just need some help here. Ref to my previous thread (27/08/06),
my
case was some recent mesgs were found removed from the inbox suspectedly
due
to cancellation of the compacting process.
Do you happen to know where the file went?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Compacting does not remove message, or degrade pictures, it just frees up
the space that deleted messages takes up. Read on.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning
well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't.
When
you delete messages, they are only marked for deletion and the space they
had used, remains until you compact, or the space is eventually
overwritten.

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do and don't touch anything until it has finished. See this
for
more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

If you haven't already done so, download this patch. It is not at Windows
Updates yet, but you can get it now.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2
and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a temporary
backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"shakey" shakeyATsonic.net wrote in message
...
When IE decides you need to compact to save disk space it is persistent
even if you do not feel the need.
Many of my received mail messages have JPG's attached or imbedded and I
am
curious to know if this compaction degrades the picture quality.
SG




  #9  
Old August 28th 06, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pop`
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Posts: 91
Default Aside to Keith compact messages

Ted Zieglar wrote:
Keith? Kath?


Maybe; dunno. I don't watch names real close so I might have messed it up.


Nobody uses "ether" in this group...we're not anesthesiologists. Even
anesthesiologists don't use ether anymore.


Welllll, in a sense we're all using ether to access the group. Most schemas
you see of the internet being used use an ether cloud to represent the
"mysteries" of the 'net since all you need to know is how to get into it or
something out of it. And then of course you have ETHERnet cards and the
like ... ;-}
Mysteries in this case doesn't mean the unknown striclty; it means the
unknown paths, backbones, etc., which are unimportant to such schemas.

Cheers,

Pop`



---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

....



  #10  
Old August 28th 06, 11:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Kath Adams
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Posts: 178
Default Aside to Pap.

Personally I think your use of the ether would have been better
served with a link if reasonable, or mention that a link already
posted might help, or even a mention of where the files might reside,
or no post at all. He was hoping for an aside, I think, and the only
comment I would make is that he should have mentioned it in the
Subjet line as a drift or something similar.


The links the poster needed were already given in the original thread,
with which they should have continued. They were obviosuly looking for
some easy fix, when there isn't any.

--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (Outlook Express)


 




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