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David Hettel October 16th 06 04:44 PM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory, yet
I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often can not
reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

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Bruce Hagen October 16th 06 05:03 PM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
--
Bruce Hagen ~ MS-MVP ~ Outlook Express
XP/SP2 Users, English & German Versions Only
Get All Critical Windows Updates And Then
Download Patch: KB918766: http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory,
yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often
can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights





Michael Santovec October 16th 06 09:33 PM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
Most "out of memory" errors in Windows programs indicate a data file
corruption rather than a lack of memory. What happens is the program
goes to ask for memory allocation based on corrupted data and asks for a
ridiculous amount.

If the problem occurs in OE when clicking the Send button in a message
composition window, I would first suspect a corrupted Outbox.dbx file
since all messages (mail and news) are written to the file when you
click send
- Close Outlook Express.
- OE5+: Locate the file outbox.dbx in the mail directory and delete it.
You can use Start, Find (or Search), Files or Folders, outbox.dbx to
find it. On Win2000 you need enable the display of Hidden or System
files in the folder options and XP you need to use the advanced options
to find Hidden or System files. (You can also determine the location by
looking in OE at Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder.)
- Open Outlook Express again. It will create a new empty Outbox.

Use the following newsgroup for questions or problems with IE6
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...er.ie6.browser

You can also get to the Internet Explorer newsgroups via this web site:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.mspx
There select Internet Explorer



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of
memory, yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical
memory. I often can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE.
Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights






Charlie Tame October 17th 06 05:54 AM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
David, in addition to Michael's advice can I suggest you look at these sites
which far surpass anything Microsoft has ever offered in regard to OE.


--
Still the best sites for OE details
http://www.insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://www.oehelp.com/

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory,
yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often
can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights






David Hettel October 17th 06 07:34 AM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
Thanks for all the suggestions! What seems to have actually have helped in
my case was this; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126962/en-us It seems to
have been an OS problem in my case.

--
David Hettel

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"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
David, in addition to Michael's advice can I suggest you look at these
sites which far surpass anything Microsoft has ever offered in regard to
OE.


--
Still the best sites for OE details
http://www.insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://www.oehelp.com/

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory,
yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often
can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights








Charlie Tame October 17th 06 08:11 AM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
Thank you David, it is always helpful when someone posts a solution.

I checked in W2003 Enterprise Server and the values there differ a bit, like
this.

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072,512
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

While the article gives

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:GdiServerDllInitialization,4
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

Out of interest what did you have running at the time?

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the suggestions! What seems to have actually have helped in
my case was this; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126962/en-us It seems to
have been an OS problem in my case.

--
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
David, in addition to Michael's advice can I suggest you look at these
sites which far surpass anything Microsoft has ever offered in regard to
OE.


--
Still the best sites for OE details
http://www.insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://www.oehelp.com/

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory,
yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often
can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights










David Hettel October 17th 06 05:28 PM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
Well I am running Media Center 2005 and my values where as your for W2003
Enterprise Server, I took a chance and increased the 512, value by 256 to
768. The install is less than a week old. I had Outlook, Outlook Express,
Internet Explorer (about 12 windows open), and eWallet open at the time,
along with a number of IBM programs that open in the background normally. As
I read this article the 512 value should have been well beyond what I
needed. Windows Task Manager shows me at about 93 to 95 Processes generally.
Before I made the change I would show that I was using a little less than 1
GB of my 2 GB of memory. Now I seem to be using perhaps a little less
memory. I tested a little after making the change and was able to open 32
Internet Explorer windows, before I got bored with opening windows. Before
the change I would hit a wall at around 24 Internet Explorer windows, where
I could no longer open windows, and sometimes it would occur with as few as
12 windows, or when I clicked on Reply Group.

--
David Hettel

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"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
Thank you David, it is always helpful when someone posts a solution.

I checked in W2003 Enterprise Server and the values there differ a bit,
like this.

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072,512
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

While the article gives

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:GdiServerDllInitialization,4
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

Out of interest what did you have running at the time?

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the suggestions! What seems to have actually have helped
in my case was this; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126962/en-us It
seems to have been an OS problem in my case.

--
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
David, in addition to Michael's advice can I suggest you look at these
sites which far surpass anything Microsoft has ever offered in regard to
OE.


--
Still the best sites for OE details
http://www.insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://www.oehelp.com/

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of memory,
yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical memory. I often
can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE. Any ideas on
this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights












Charlie Tame October 18th 06 01:08 PM

2 GB of memory over 1 GB of memory free, and outlook complains of being out of memory
 
Well I guess we have to wait and see for a while then. I guess it may be a
task that's not returning memory properly or something so maybe the
unusually high setting is now avoiding that.

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
Well I am running Media Center 2005 and my values where as your for W2003
Enterprise Server, I took a chance and increased the 512, value by 256 to
768. The install is less than a week old. I had Outlook, Outlook Express,
Internet Explorer (about 12 windows open), and eWallet open at the time,
along with a number of IBM programs that open in the background normally.
As I read this article the 512 value should have been well beyond what I
needed. Windows Task Manager shows me at about 93 to 95 Processes
generally. Before I made the change I would show that I was using a little
less than 1 GB of my 2 GB of memory. Now I seem to be using perhaps a
little less memory. I tested a little after making the change and was able
to open 32 Internet Explorer windows, before I got bored with opening
windows. Before the change I would hit a wall at around 24 Internet
Explorer windows, where I could no longer open windows, and sometimes it
would occur with as few as 12 windows, or when I clicked on Reply Group.

--
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
Thank you David, it is always helpful when someone posts a solution.

I checked in W2003 Enterprise Server and the values there differ a bit,
like this.

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072,512
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

While the article gives

%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
ObjectDirectory=\Windows
SharedSection=1024,3072
Windows=On
SubSystemType=Windows
ServerDll=basesrv,1
ServerDll=winsrv:GdiServerDllInitialization,4
ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
ProfileControl=Off
MaxRequestThreads=16

Out of interest what did you have running at the time?

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the suggestions! What seems to have actually have helped
in my case was this; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126962/en-us It
seems to have been an OS problem in my case.

--
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
David, in addition to Michael's advice can I suggest you look at these
sites which far surpass anything Microsoft has ever offered in regard
to OE.


--
Still the best sites for OE details
http://www.insideoe.tomsterdam.com/
http://www.oehelp.com/

Charlie

"David Hettel" wrote in message
...
I have a problem where Outlook Express complains of being out of
memory, yet I have 2 GB of memory and over 1 Gb of free physical
memory. I often can not reply to post, or even open new windows in IE.
Any ideas on this?

Thanks,
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights















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