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SP_1 November 5th 06 10:01 AM

IE7 and OE6
 
Hi

I just installed IE7. I'm wondering why OE6 is not upgraded to OE7.

Steve



Steve Cochran November 5th 06 11:06 AM

IE7 and OE6
 
OE has been split off from IE, so there is no OE7.

steve

"SP_1" none wrote in message ...
Hi

I just installed IE7. I'm wondering why OE6 is not upgraded to OE7.

Steve



darkrats November 5th 06 07:31 PM

IE7 and OE6
 
Was there any truth to the rumours that Windows Mail, that comes with Vista,
was to be available for XP?



"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
OE has been split off from IE, so there is no OE7.

steve

"SP_1" none wrote in message
...
Hi

I just installed IE7. I'm wondering why OE6 is not upgraded to OE7.

Steve





Bruce Hagen November 5th 06 07:43 PM

IE7 and OE6
 
No chance at all. There will be a program available for XP/SP2 called
Windows Live Mail Desktop, but from what I see so far, I'm not jumping for
joy about it.

Windows Live Mail Desktop:
http://www.bryanstarbuck.com/2006/09...s_live_ma.html
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"darkrats" wrote in message
...
Was there any truth to the rumours that Windows Mail, that comes with
Vista, was to be available for XP?



"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
OE has been split off from IE, so there is no OE7.

steve

"SP_1" none wrote in message
...
Hi

I just installed IE7. I'm wondering why OE6 is not upgraded to OE7.

Steve






Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM November 5th 06 09:51 PM

IE7 and OE6
 
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
No chance at all. There will be a program available for XP/SP2 called
Windows Live Mail Desktop, but from what I see so far, I'm not jumping for
joy about it.

Windows Live Mail Desktop:
http://www.bryanstarbuck.com/2006/09...s_live_ma.html
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"darkrats" wrote in message
...
Was there any truth to the rumours that Windows Mail, that comes with
Vista, was to be available for XP?



I strongly dislike WLMDb. I use it once a day to collect my Hotmail and to
post in microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



david November 6th 06 02:02 AM

IE7 and OE6
 
Will OE6 ever be updated? Or will there still be a standalone email client
after OE6? 'Windows Live Mail Desktop' sounds like something you can only
use when you're online (no good for me with my dial-up). Thanks.



Alias November 6th 06 02:19 AM

IE7 and OE6
 
david wrote:
Will OE6 ever be updated? Or will there still be a standalone email client
after OE6? 'Windows Live Mail Desktop' sounds like something you can only
use when you're online (no good for me with my dial-up). Thanks.



Windows Mail will come with Vista. The OE you have is the last one.

Alias

PA Bear November 6th 06 03:36 AM

IE7 and OE6
 
To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.

We may see a few fixes for OE6 in the future (but nothing dramatic, I assure
you) and anything security-related will be addressed as long as your Windows
version is still supported.

WL Mail Desktop requires being online, yes. It seems MS figures everybody
in the /world/ has affordable broadband access. Go figure.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


david wrote:
Will OE6 ever be updated? Or will there still be a standalone email client
after OE6? 'Windows Live Mail Desktop' sounds like something you can only
use when you're online (no good for me with my dial-up). Thanks.



Bill Ridgeway November 6th 06 09:43 AM

Role of MVPs (was IE7 and OE6)
 
Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) wrote
We may see a few fixes for OE6 in the future (but nothing dramatic, I
assure you)

Could you please explain the role / status of MS MVPs? I thought they were
not part of (employed by) MS in which case your assurance has no foundation.
I have also seen statements like "don't ask me I'm not part of MS". These
two don't sit comfortably together and obviously I'm not clear on the
matter.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions



Alias November 6th 06 11:52 AM

Role of MVPs (was IE7 and OE6)
 
Bill Ridgeway wrote:
Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) wrote
We may see a few fixes for OE6 in the future (but nothing dramatic, I
assure you)

Could you please explain the role / status of MS MVPs? I thought they were
not part of (employed by) MS in which case your assurance has no foundation.
I have also seen statements like "don't ask me I'm not part of MS". These
two don't sit comfortably together and obviously I'm not clear on the
matter.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions



Some MVPs are more MVP than others. I can assure you that PA Bear knows
exactly what he's talking about.

Alias

Steve Cochran November 6th 06 01:45 PM

Role of MVPs (was IE7 and OE6)
 
While we are not part of MS, we have been actively involved in discussions
with the relevant MS personnel in terms of product development for many
years. We have been listened to quite a lot and ignored quite a lot. Its a
very frustrating encounter, but it does achieve positive results for the
users ultimately, at least to some extent.

As to knowing MS strategy or not, we usually indicate things that we know
are rather rock solid. For instance MS has made no signficant changes to OE
for years, so there is a good chance it won't ever. Instead the efforts are
being directed towards Windows Mail in Vista and towards the Windows Live
Mail stuff, which is available to XP users.

MS continues to surprise us both favorably and unfavorably.

steve

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) wrote
We may see a few fixes for OE6 in the future (but nothing dramatic, I
assure you)

Could you please explain the role / status of MS MVPs? I thought they
were not part of (employed by) MS in which case your assurance has no
foundation. I have also seen statements like "don't ask me I'm not part of
MS". These two don't sit comfortably together and obviously I'm not clear
on the matter.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions



Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM November 6th 06 03:02 PM

Role of MVPs (was IE7 and OE6)
 
"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) wrote
We may see a few fixes for OE6 in the future (but nothing dramatic, I
assure you)

Could you please explain the role / status of MS MVPs? I thought they
were not part of (employed by) MS in which case your assurance has no
foundation. I have also seen statements like "don't ask me I'm not part of
MS". These two don't sit comfortably together and obviously I'm not clear
on the matter.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions


When an MVP states something about what Microsoft will or will not do, we
generally have it from a better source than the Press. They get their
information from Public Relations or vice presidents. We get it from the
people doing the work.

In a meeting at Redmond we told the OE team that something had to be done
about people losing their message store. The result was this optional
update for WinXP SP2:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
This will be included in a future comprehensive update. One of the things
it does is to copy all of the DBX files to Recycled as BAK files, so that
the messages are recoverable.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



PA Bear November 6th 06 06:31 PM

Role of MVPs (was IE7 and OE6)
 
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
snip
When an MVP states something about what Microsoft will or will not do, we
generally have it from a better source than the Press. They get their
information from Public Relations or vice presidents. We get it from the
people doing the work.


much loud applause

@Bill Ridgeway: See http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

ZIBAK November 8th 06 12:49 AM

IE7 and OE6
 

"SP_1" none wrote in message ...
Hi

I just installed IE7. I'm wondering why OE6 is not upgraded to OE7.

Steve





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