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Jim Hughes November 7th 06 04:21 AM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook Express
6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine and
Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded information
as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching message
for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources. I am not
able to save the file and, many times must invoke ... Ctrl-Alt-Delete to
get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk, and
more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes




DGuess November 7th 06 05:49 AM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 

Do you happen to remove old messages after reading and decodingor leave them
in OE?

What sizes are the DBX files for those newsgroups? Might have to delete some
old messages then back up the message store then do a File \ Compact All.
(Note the backup first).



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine
and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded information
as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources. I
am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke ...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk, and
more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes




Jim Hughes November 7th 06 04:51 PM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
DGuess ...

Thank you for the help.

After I have finished with the decoding of newsgroup files I do the
following:
1. I select Tools, then Options, then Maintenance, and Clean up now. I
then select Reset and after that Compact.

2. The current file has pieces that are 253kb each and total file size
about 700mb.

When I start to 'combine' a selected portion to 'combine & decode' the
process never lets me select File and then Save. Instead, it displays
'searching message for hyperlinks' , grabs 100% of the processor and most of
the memory by a process called 'msimn.exe'

Thanks again for your help.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
************************************************** **


"DGuess" wrote in message
...

Do you happen to remove old messages after reading and decodingor leave
them in OE?

What sizes are the DBX files for those newsgroups? Might have to delete
some old messages then back up the message store then do a File \ Compact
All. (Note the backup first).



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine
and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded
information as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources.
I am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke ...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk, and
more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes






DGuess November 7th 06 06:51 PM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
When it makes that one big file, you don't have a choice on the preview as
it will do that. On a large file, whew, your stuck.

I'd suggest looking into Forte's Free Agent, it can handle binaries and
doesn't need a yenc add-on. Most posts don't need a combine as it will do it
on it's on but you will see some occasionally.

OE just isn't set for binary files.



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
DGuess ...

Thank you for the help.

After I have finished with the decoding of newsgroup files I do the
following:
1. I select Tools, then Options, then Maintenance, and Clean up now. I
then select Reset and after that Compact.

2. The current file has pieces that are 253kb each and total file size
about 700mb.

When I start to 'combine' a selected portion to 'combine & decode' the
process never lets me select File and then Save. Instead, it displays
'searching message for hyperlinks' , grabs 100% of the processor and most
of the memory by a process called 'msimn.exe'

Thanks again for your help.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
************************************************** **


"DGuess" wrote in message
...

Do you happen to remove old messages after reading and decodingor leave
them in OE?

What sizes are the DBX files for those newsgroups? Might have to delete
some old messages then back up the message store then do a File \ Compact
All. (Note the backup first).



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine
and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded
information as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources.
I am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke ...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk,
and more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes






Jim Hughes November 7th 06 07:48 PM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
DGuess ...

.... thank you again.

.... I agree with you, I am going to do NewsGroup stuff with something other
than Outlook Express.
Take care, and thank you.
Jim Hughes
**********************************
"DGuess" wrote in message
...
When it makes that one big file, you don't have a choice on the preview as
it will do that. On a large file, whew, your stuck.

I'd suggest looking into Forte's Free Agent, it can handle binaries and
doesn't need a yenc add-on. Most posts don't need a combine as it will do
it on it's on but you will see some occasionally.

OE just isn't set for binary files.



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
DGuess ...

Thank you for the help.

After I have finished with the decoding of newsgroup files I do the
following:
1. I select Tools, then Options, then Maintenance, and Clean up now. I
then select Reset and after that Compact.

2. The current file has pieces that are 253kb each and total file size
about 700mb.

When I start to 'combine' a selected portion to 'combine & decode' the
process never lets me select File and then Save. Instead, it displays
'searching message for hyperlinks' , grabs 100% of the processor and most
of the memory by a process called 'msimn.exe'

Thanks again for your help.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
************************************************** **


"DGuess" wrote in message
...

Do you happen to remove old messages after reading and decodingor leave
them in OE?

What sizes are the DBX files for those newsgroups? Might have to delete
some old messages then back up the message store then do a File \
Compact All. (Note the backup first).



"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine
and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded
information as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources.
I am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke ...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk,
and more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes








Michael Santovec November 7th 06 09:43 PM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
That's a problem with yEnc and OE and using a back-end decoder. Once
the combine and decode completes, it looks like a text message and OE
goes through searching for hyperlinks. I'm only surprised that this is
a new issue, unless you have just recently started dealing with yEnc or
in the past only dealt with small yEnc attachments.

The workaround, if you want to use yEnc with OE is to use a front-end
decoder which installs as a news server proxy and converts yEnc to
Uuencode as it downloads before passing to OE. That way, as long as you
have the Preview Pane turned off, OE will decode the Uuencode to an
attachment and avoid the searching issue.

See the yEnc section of :
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm
for some links to yEnc proxy options.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select
Combine and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded
information as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer
resources. I am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke
... Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk,
and more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes






Jim Hughes November 7th 06 10:55 PM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
Michael Santovec ...

.... thank you for your time, consideration, and direction.
.... I will follow-up on your suggestions
.... A note: I have been using yEnc & OE to deal with binary files for over
two years ... some monster files. My problems have just started since IE7
download and installation.
.... Sometimes I would run into the 'searching for hyperlinks.' Now,
regardless of file size to combine & decode, I get the 'searching for
hyperlinks' every time. CPU usage shoots up to 100% and memory usage
approaches max.
.... I just deleted .dbt files in my 'Store Folder' ... about 10.7 gb;
still get the 'searching for hyperlinks.'
.... I do have .dbx files in same 'Store Folder' and I did not touch them.
Thanks again.
****************************************


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
That's a problem with yEnc and OE and using a back-end decoder. Once the
combine and decode completes, it looks like a text message and OE goes
through searching for hyperlinks. I'm only surprised that this is a new
issue, unless you have just recently started dealing with yEnc or in the
past only dealt with small yEnc attachments.

The workaround, if you want to use yEnc with OE is to use a front-end
decoder which installs as a news server proxy and converts yEnc to
Uuencode as it downloads before passing to OE. That way, as long as you
have the Preview Pane turned off, OE will decode the Uuencode to an
attachment and avoid the searching issue.

See the yEnc section of :
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm
for some links to yEnc proxy options.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
Good Evening ...

I hope all is well in your domain.

I have Windows XP2, latest patch level, IE7 as of 1 week and Outlook
Express 6. Before IE7 the following problem did not exist.

I use Outlook for Newsgroup file capturing and all has gone well until
lately.

1. I obtain files from a newsgroup, in 'yenc' format.
2. I copy those files to a separate folder in Outlook
3. I then mark off a selection of the copied files, and select Combine
and Decode from 'Message' in the tool bar
4. When things go right I would save the combined and decoded
information as 'email' and later decode it with 'Yenc32'
5. Lately, I do not get the chance to save the file, as 'searching
message for hyperlinks' appears and sucks up all my computer resources.
I am not able to save the file and, many times must invoke ...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get out of Outlook Express.
6. I have scanned for MalWare, Virii, defragged, cleaned up my disk, and
more ... no luck.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

I will heed your instructions.

Thank you.

Jim Hughes








Tom Koch November 8th 06 12:56 AM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
... Sometimes I would run into the 'searching for hyperlinks.'


You will only see that if the Preview pane is open, or if you open a yenc
message. Turn off the preview pane when you're working in binaries newsgroups.
You can add a button to the news toolbar to toggle that.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.


Jim Hughes November 8th 06 02:19 AM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
Tom Koch ...

Thanks for the help Tom.

1. I went to Layout and turned off Preview Pane
2. I grabbed 10 files from a newsgroup and copied to a folder in my Local
Folder area
3. I selected all 10 files and then selected Combine and Decode from
the Message tab, and then clicked ok.
4. Within seconds the combining and decoding was coming to an end ...
then the results were coming up and, the 'searching for hyperlinks'
appeared, CPU usage shot up, the combining and decoding became ' non
responsive ' and unable to save the results.

Needless to say ... I am really confused. I have downloaded and installed
IE7 ... and that is all I've added to my system, except 'spyware' and 'virus
ware' updates. Before IE7, I could combine and decode anything.

Any more clues Tom ?

Am I reporting/asking in the correct NewsGroup?

Thanks Tom.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
**************************************************



"Tom Koch" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
... Sometimes I would run into the 'searching for hyperlinks.'


You will only see that if the Preview pane is open, or if you open a yenc
message. Turn off the preview pane when you're working in binaries
newsgroups. You can add a button to the news toolbar to toggle that.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.




DGuess November 8th 06 02:58 AM

Combine & Decode Problems ... IE7, Outlook Express 6 ...
 
Doesn't a new window pop up after combine and decode? Preview Pane isn't an
option then.


"Tom Koch" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hughes" wrote in message
. ..
... Sometimes I would run into the 'searching for hyperlinks.'


You will only see that if the Preview pane is open, or if you open a yenc
message. Turn off the preview pane when you're working in binaries
newsgroups. You can add a button to the news toolbar to toggle that.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.



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