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Old December 1st 06, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Kai Schaetzl
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Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000:

Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is*
available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my*
ability to post.


Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is
not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But
use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen?
When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about
anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it?
From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is
slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews?

Kai
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Old December 1st 06, 01:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600:

To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero
and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378


Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first!

Kai
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Old December 1st 06, 01:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000:

Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is
available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my
ability to post.


Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is
not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But
use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen?
When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about
anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it?
From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is
slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews?


She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews.


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Old December 1st 06, 01:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Michael Jennings
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600:

To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero
and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378


Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first!


They knocked that post off the server, Kai. I feel that I have
been excused from doing the dirty deed to OE6, so I won't.


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Old December 1st 06, 02:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Kai Schaetzl
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Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600:

She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews.


Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get
a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it
for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use.
There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the
server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a
street with bumps for smooth driving.

Kai
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Old December 1st 06, 02:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Kate
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message
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Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000:

Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is
available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my
ability to post.


Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure
it is not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some
hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How
often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I
remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already
uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly
to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen
only with msnews?

Kai
--
Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
IE repair script: http://iefaq.info

Kai : I don`t usually have both IE (I use v.6, having taken an instant
dislike to v.7 - too "tricksy" for me) and OE6 open at the same time -
it`s either one or the other. I never get this message in IE, nor
when I click Send/Receive in OE; it only happens when I first click a
newsgroup, not just in msnews but with the two other newsservers I use
as well. If I close OE and then re-open it within about 5 minutes,
everything works fine. If I leave it longer, then up pops the message
again.

I gave a full description of ways I have tried to rectify this in my
post entitled "It may be coincidental, but since uninstalling IE7..."
dated 25 November, posted to ms.p.internetexplorer.general and then
copied to ms.p.windowsxp.network_web. BTW, I used to use my ISP`s
newsserver rather than msnews, until I read that msnews was quicker
and kept messages on the server for longer.

I use AVG Free and keep it updated every day since the computer was
new 2 1/2 years ago.

Frank : I just wanted to eliminate ntoskrnl.exe from my enquiries, as
it were, rather than resurrect my previous threads. I am generally
very wary about installing downloaded software, and always save it to
file and get AVG to scan it before installing - although that won`t
prevent malware, I guess. Also, I don`t use Messenger or Windows
Messenger and have no idea what Messenger Plus is!

Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the
notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than
occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll
keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not
sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without
step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck!

Many thanks to all
Kate






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Old December 1st 06, 02:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600:

She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews.


Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get
a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it
for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use.
There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the
server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a
street with bumps for smooth driving.


I am content to blame Microsoft's msnews server, and to click "retry," when
the no connection thing happens. That has yet to fail in coughing up the posts.
I'll keep an eye out for the behavior occurring with other news servers.


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Old December 1st 06, 04:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Michael Jennings
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"Kate" wrote in message ...
Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the
notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than
occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll
keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not
sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without
step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck!


Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't work
for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2
in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates.
The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero,
either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however,
"saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings
(which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the
so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you,
Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me.


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Old December 2nd 06, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Kate
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"Michael Jennings" wrote in message
...
"Kate" wrote in message
...
Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the
notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than
occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But
I`ll
keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not
sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without
step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck!


Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't
work
for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2
in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates.
The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero,
either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however,
"saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings
(which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the
so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you,
Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me.



Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on
Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and,
lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`.
Coincidence maybe?

Kate



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Old December 2nd 06, 04:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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"Kate" wrote in message
...

"Michael Jennings" wrote in message
...
"Kate" wrote in message
...
Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the
notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than
occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But
I`ll
keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not
sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without
step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck!


Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't
work
for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2
in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates.
The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero,
either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however,
"saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings
(which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the
so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you,
Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me.



Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on
Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and,
lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`.
Coincidence maybe?

Kate




That very well could be the answer because with AVG, just unchecking e-mail
scanning is not enough.

Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when you see
that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the security center
causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center.

BTW. Have you upgraded to version 7.5? 7.1 will no longer support updated
for new Trojans. I have 7.5 and cannot see Manage/Services & Applications.
Where was that?
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