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Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000:
Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is* available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my* ability to post. Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews? Kai -- Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org IE repair script: http://iefaq.info |
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Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600:
To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378 Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first! Kai -- Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org IE repair script: http://iefaq.info |
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000: Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my ability to post. Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews? She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews. |
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600: To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378 Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first! They knocked that post off the server, Kai. I feel that I have been excused from doing the dirty deed to OE6, so I won't. |
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Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600:
She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews. Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use. There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a street with bumps for smooth driving. Kai -- Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org IE repair script: http://iefaq.info |
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![]() "Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ... Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000: Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my ability to post. Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews? Kai -- Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org IE repair script: http://iefaq.info Kai : I don`t usually have both IE (I use v.6, having taken an instant dislike to v.7 - too "tricksy" for me) and OE6 open at the same time - it`s either one or the other. I never get this message in IE, nor when I click Send/Receive in OE; it only happens when I first click a newsgroup, not just in msnews but with the two other newsservers I use as well. If I close OE and then re-open it within about 5 minutes, everything works fine. If I leave it longer, then up pops the message again. I gave a full description of ways I have tried to rectify this in my post entitled "It may be coincidental, but since uninstalling IE7..." dated 25 November, posted to ms.p.internetexplorer.general and then copied to ms.p.windowsxp.network_web. BTW, I used to use my ISP`s newsserver rather than msnews, until I read that msnews was quicker and kept messages on the server for longer. I use AVG Free and keep it updated every day since the computer was new 2 1/2 years ago. Frank : I just wanted to eliminate ntoskrnl.exe from my enquiries, as it were, rather than resurrect my previous threads. I am generally very wary about installing downloaded software, and always save it to file and get AVG to scan it before installing - although that won`t prevent malware, I guess. Also, I don`t use Messenger or Windows Messenger and have no idea what Messenger Plus is! Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! Many thanks to all Kate |
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"Kai Schaetzl" wrote in message ...
Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600: She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews. Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use. There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a street with bumps for smooth driving. I am content to blame Microsoft's msnews server, and to click "retry," when the no connection thing happens. That has yet to fail in coughing up the posts. I'll keep an eye out for the behavior occurring with other news servers. |
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"Kate" wrote in message ...
Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't work for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. |
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![]() "Michael Jennings" wrote in message ... "Kate" wrote in message ... Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't work for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. Coincidence maybe? Kate |
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![]() "Kate" wrote in message ... "Michael Jennings" wrote in message ... "Kate" wrote in message ... Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't work for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. Coincidence maybe? Kate That very well could be the answer because with AVG, just unchecking e-mail scanning is not enough. Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when you see that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the security center causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center. BTW. Have you upgraded to version 7.5? 7.1 will no longer support updated for new Trojans. I have 7.5 and cannot see Manage/Services & Applications. Where was that? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ |
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