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Dudley Henriques December 15th 06 06:44 AM

OE6.0 compact question
 
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as I
manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it if
it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques



Alias December 15th 06 08:30 AM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Dudley Henriques wrote:
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as I
manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it if
it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques



It's an update from Windows Update. Now, when you compact, OE sets the
count back to zero and backs up your messages and puts them in the
recycle bin. It's normal and about time they released it. I've had it
for months. If, after a reboot, your OE hasn't lost any messages, you
can delete the items in the recycle bin.

Alias

Steve Cochran December 15th 06 01:41 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Hi Dudley,

Its a new patch to protect the message store when compacting. See
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

steve

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as I
manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques



Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM December 15th 06 01:48 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as I
manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques


Just to add to what Alias and Steve said, this is a Good Thing.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



Dudley Henriques December 15th 06 03:06 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Thanks. I had no idea what was going on :-)
DH


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Dudley Henriques wrote:
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as
I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques


It's an update from Windows Update. Now, when you compact, OE sets the
count back to zero and backs up your messages and puts them in the recycle
bin. It's normal and about time they released it. I've had it for months.
If, after a reboot, your OE hasn't lost any messages, you can delete the
items in the recycle bin.

Alias




Dudley Henriques December 15th 06 03:07 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Thanks Steve;
DH

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Hi Dudley,

Its a new patch to protect the message store when compacting. See
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

steve

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as
I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques





Dudley Henriques December 15th 06 03:14 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Thanks Frank;

My only question would be a REAL concern about my procedure of compacting
every night. I do this as the last thing before closing down my system. Does
this mean I now have to reopen OE every night after compacting and check
every folder to see that messages are still intact, then go into the recycle
bin and empty it? That will mean I have to go back and open each and every
folder on the bar to see if it's showing messages, and even then I won't
know if they are ALL there.
Am I missing something here? :-)))))
Dudley

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as
I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques


Just to add to what Alias and Steve said, this is a Good Thing.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.





Alias December 15th 06 03:43 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Thanks Frank;

My only question would be a REAL concern about my procedure of compacting
every night. I do this as the last thing before closing down my system. Does
this mean I now have to reopen OE every night after compacting and check
every folder to see that messages are still intact, then go into the recycle
bin and empty it? That will mean I have to go back and open each and every
folder on the bar to see if it's showing messages, and even then I won't
know if they are ALL there.
Am I missing something here? :-)))))
Dudley


You can wait until the morning but don't empty the recycle bin until
you've checked. That said, I always back up OE before compacting with
another OE back up program. Chances are, nothing will be missing unless,
for example, the lights go off when you're in the middle of compacting
or if you foolishly stop the compacting by doing a reboot in the middle
of the process or try to do something else like surf the web when it's
in process. When compacting, you should not even touch your mouse or
keyboard until it's done. I have never lost messages from compacting (or
anything else for that matter).

Alias

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any issues
with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin as
I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed any
settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct it
if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques

Just to add to what Alias and Steve said, this is a Good Thing.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.





Dudley Henriques December 15th 06 04:16 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
That's my procedure as well. My normal method of using the computer is to
not use any two programs at one time anyway. I always close one thing before
opening another. When I'm using OE, that's the only thing open save
processes running in the background. When I compact at night, everything is
closed to a clean desktop, then I open OE and compact off line.
I guess with this new update running the baks into the bin, the safest
method to do this now would be to alter the procedure a bit and leave the
recycle bin alone after compaction to be deleted the next day, always
working one day behind for clearing the bin. This would allow the next day
to verify that all is ok with OE; then to close and compact for the next
day, clear the bin first, then compact and leave again for a repeat the next
day. In other words, work OE each day, but work the recycle bin one day
later all the time.
Sound feasible?
Dudley


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Thanks Frank;

My only question would be a REAL concern about my procedure of compacting
every night. I do this as the last thing before closing down my system.
Does this mean I now have to reopen OE every night after compacting and
check every folder to see that messages are still intact, then go into
the recycle bin and empty it? That will mean I have to go back and open
each and every folder on the bar to see if it's showing messages, and
even then I won't know if they are ALL there.
Am I missing something here? :-)))))
Dudley


You can wait until the morning but don't empty the recycle bin until
you've checked. That said, I always back up OE before compacting with
another OE back up program. Chances are, nothing will be missing unless,
for example, the lights go off when you're in the middle of compacting or
if you foolishly stop the compacting by doing a reboot in the middle of
the process or try to do something else like surf the web when it's in
process. When compacting, you should not even touch your mouse or keyboard
until it's done. I have never lost messages from compacting (or anything
else for that matter).

Alias

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any
issues with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin
as I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed
any settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct
it if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques

Just to add to what Alias and Steve said, this is a Good Thing.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.





Alias December 15th 06 04:27 PM

OE6.0 compact question
 
Dudley Henriques wrote:
That's my procedure as well. My normal method of using the computer is to
not use any two programs at one time anyway. I always close one thing before
opening another. When I'm using OE, that's the only thing open save
processes running in the background. When I compact at night, everything is
closed to a clean desktop, then I open OE and compact off line.
I guess with this new update running the baks into the bin, the safest
method to do this now would be to alter the procedure a bit and leave the
recycle bin alone after compaction to be deleted the next day, always
working one day behind for clearing the bin. This would allow the next day
to verify that all is ok with OE; then to close and compact for the next
day, clear the bin first, then compact and leave again for a repeat the next
day. In other words, work OE each day, but work the recycle bin one day
later all the time.
Sound feasible?
Dudley


Very. The other thing I do when I compact is to click on Outlook Express
at the top of the folder tree, get rid of the folder tree and, like you,
go off line. You can put icons on the tool bar for both going off line
and disabling/enabling the folder tree.

Alias


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Thanks Frank;

My only question would be a REAL concern about my procedure of compacting
every night. I do this as the last thing before closing down my system.
Does this mean I now have to reopen OE every night after compacting and
check every folder to see that messages are still intact, then go into
the recycle bin and empty it? That will mean I have to go back and open
each and every folder on the bar to see if it's showing messages, and
even then I won't know if they are ALL there.
Am I missing something here? :-)))))
Dudley

You can wait until the morning but don't empty the recycle bin until
you've checked. That said, I always back up OE before compacting with
another OE back up program. Chances are, nothing will be missing unless,
for example, the lights go off when you're in the middle of compacting or
if you foolishly stop the compacting by doing a reboot in the middle of
the process or try to do something else like surf the web when it's in
process. When compacting, you should not even touch your mouse or keyboard
until it's done. I have never lost messages from compacting (or anything
else for that matter).

Alias
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
I compact folders each night manually in OE and have never had any
issues with this procedure. The folders compress and that's it.
Just tonight, OE started copying all the dbx files to the recycle bin
as I manually compress. They show up there with a BAK extension.
Can anyone shed any light on this for me. I don't think I've changed
any settings and this has never happened before.
If possible I need to know what's happening and why and how to correct
it if it's an issue please.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques

Just to add to what Alias and Steve said, this is a Good Thing.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.





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