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Oziebill December 20th 06 11:14 PM

Watched Messages
 
In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where the
thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives. Recently
one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new messages in
any of the watched threads.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Bill

XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6





Ron Sommer December 21st 06 01:29 AM

Watched Messages
 
You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Oziebill" wrote in message
...
: In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where the
: thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives. Recently
: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new messages
in
: any of the watched threads.
:
: Any ideas?
:
: Thanks
:
: Bill
:
: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
:
:
:
:


Bruce Hagen December 21st 06 01:30 AM

Watched Messages
 
You may have just missed it. View | Sort By | Watch/Ignore will bring all
the watched messages to the top of the list. See if you find it this way.

In View | Current View - Make su Show all messages and Group messages by
conversation are checked.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Oziebill" wrote in message
...
In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where the
thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives. Recently
one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new messages
in
any of the watched threads.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Bill

XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6






Oziebill December 21st 06 02:26 AM

Watched Messages
 
Thanks Ron

But unfortunately, not so -






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
: You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "Oziebill" wrote in message
: ...
:: In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where the
:: thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives.
Recently
:: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new messages
: in
:: any of the watched threads.
::
:: Any ideas?
::
:: Thanks
::
:: Bill
::
:: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
::
::
::
::
:



Oziebill December 21st 06 02:32 AM

Watched Messages
 
Thanks Bruce

but already do what you suggest.

It is strange because its only in the one group (xp general) in msnews etc.
Other ng's and newservers are normal. I don't really want to unsubscribe
and so lose all the threads when I re-subscribe without a lot of work.

Bill


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
: You may have just missed it. View | Sort By | Watch/Ignore will bring all
: the watched messages to the top of the list. See if you find it this way.
:
: In View | Current View - Make su Show all messages and Group messages
by
: conversation are checked.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Oziebill" wrote in message
: ...
: In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where
the
: thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives.
Recently
: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new
messages
: in
: any of the watched threads.
:
: Any ideas?
:
: Thanks
:
: Bill
:
: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
:
:
:
:
:



Ron Sommer December 21st 06 02:48 AM

Watched Messages
 
So that means that you have done Edit, Catch Up?
--
Ronald Sommer

"Oziebill" wrote in message
...
: Thanks Ron
:
: But unfortunately, not so -
:
:
:
:
:
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
:: You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.
:: --
:: Ronald Sommer
::
:: "Oziebill" wrote in message
:: ...
::: In a number of newsgroups I use the 'watched messages' function where
the
::: thread is highlighted red and in bold when a new message arrives.
: Recently
::: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are no new
messages
:: in
::: any of the watched threads.
:::
::: Any ideas?
:::
::: Thanks
:::
::: Bill
:::
::: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
:::
:::
:::
:::
::
:
:


Robert Aldwinckle December 21st 06 06:39 AM

Watched Messages
 
"Ron Sommer" wrote in message

....
::: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are
::: no new messages in any of the watched threads.



:: You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.



So that means that you have done Edit, Catch Up?



Ron,

Isn't that independent of his View?

Your initial suggestion made me think that you were thinking that his
Current View might be Show Downloaded Messages.
Hence, Watched headers might be hidden by that view.

Depending on what he does for getting new messages though
that state wouldn't last too long normally anyway.
E.g. Watched headers seem to have the equivalent effect
of headers which are marked for download, at least as far
as synchronization commands are concerned.

So then we'd need to hypothesize a different Current View
than Show Downloaded Messages to explain the symptom. ; )

Easier just to posit that the identity's broken and suggest create a new one?



::: Any ideas?



It only takes one *message* to be Watched to cause the symptom.
If you are sorting by Watched Conversation (e.g. with Group Messages
by Conversation checked) and only looking at the watched threads
which sort to the top of the message list you could be ignoring other
unread messages which are also marked Watched below the
Watched threads. Try either turning off threading and then checking
with Ctrl-u that there are no unread watched messages or create
a new view called Watched which filters out only watched messages
and see then how many unread messages the Status bar shows for
that view. If Ctrl-u finds a Watched message or if the Status bar
in a Watched view shows a nonzero number for "unread" you would have
an explanation for your symptom.


:::
::: Thanks
:::
::: Bill
:::
::: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6




Oziebill December 21st 06 07:26 AM

Watched Messages
 
FWIW I took Ron's advice of Edit, Catch Up without thinking and it certainly
corrected the issue, and of course showed all messages as read. My initial
response meant that Tools/Get Next nnn headers did not yield additional
posts ie all were downloaded.

I have recently also noticed that some posts within a watched thread are not
shown in Red. So maybe there was some other problem. Again only in xp
general, which I imagine is one of the largest groups.

So, its still a mystery to me - and one which would be near impossible to
replicate. But it was only a nuisance.

Thanks to all.


"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
:
: ...
: ::: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are
: ::: no new messages in any of the watched threads.
:
:
: :: You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.
:
:
: So that means that you have done Edit, Catch Up?
:
:
: Ron,
:
: Isn't that independent of his View?
:
: Your initial suggestion made me think that you were thinking that his
: Current View might be Show Downloaded Messages.
: Hence, Watched headers might be hidden by that view.
:
: Depending on what he does for getting new messages though
: that state wouldn't last too long normally anyway.
: E.g. Watched headers seem to have the equivalent effect
: of headers which are marked for download, at least as far
: as synchronization commands are concerned.
:
: So then we'd need to hypothesize a different Current View
: than Show Downloaded Messages to explain the symptom. ; )
:
: Easier just to posit that the identity's broken and suggest create a new
one?
:
:
:
: ::: Any ideas?
:
:
: It only takes one *message* to be Watched to cause the symptom.
: If you are sorting by Watched Conversation (e.g. with Group Messages
: by Conversation checked) and only looking at the watched threads
: which sort to the top of the message list you could be ignoring other
: unread messages which are also marked Watched below the
: Watched threads. Try either turning off threading and then checking
: with Ctrl-u that there are no unread watched messages or create
: a new view called Watched which filters out only watched messages
: and see then how many unread messages the Status bar shows for
: that view. If Ctrl-u finds a Watched message or if the Status bar
: in a Watched view shows a nonzero number for "unread" you would have
: an explanation for your symptom.
:
:
: :::
: ::: Thanks
: :::
: ::: Bill
: :::
: ::: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
:
:



Ron Sommer December 21st 06 12:03 PM

Watched Messages
 
I have had your problem with the newsgroup being red and not finding any
unread messages.
When it occurred, I had Get xxx headers checked.
The problem has not occurred with Get xxx headers unchecked.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Oziebill" wrote in message
...
: FWIW I took Ron's advice of Edit, Catch Up without thinking and it
certainly
: corrected the issue, and of course showed all messages as read. My initial
: response meant that Tools/Get Next nnn headers did not yield additional
: posts ie all were downloaded.
:
: I have recently also noticed that some posts within a watched thread are
not
: shown in Red. So maybe there was some other problem. Again only in xp
: general, which I imagine is one of the largest groups.
:
: So, its still a mystery to me - and one which would be near impossible to
: replicate. But it was only a nuisance.
:
: Thanks to all.
:
:
: "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
: ...
:: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
::
:: ...
:: ::: one of my ms newsgroups is red bold even though there are
:: ::: no new messages in any of the watched threads.
::
::
:: :: You have a watched message on the server that is not downloaded.
::
::
:: So that means that you have done Edit, Catch Up?
::
::
:: Ron,
::
:: Isn't that independent of his View?
::
:: Your initial suggestion made me think that you were thinking that his
:: Current View might be Show Downloaded Messages.
:: Hence, Watched headers might be hidden by that view.
::
:: Depending on what he does for getting new messages though
:: that state wouldn't last too long normally anyway.
:: E.g. Watched headers seem to have the equivalent effect
:: of headers which are marked for download, at least as far
:: as synchronization commands are concerned.
::
:: So then we'd need to hypothesize a different Current View
:: than Show Downloaded Messages to explain the symptom. ; )
::
:: Easier just to posit that the identity's broken and suggest create a new
: one?
::
::
::
:: ::: Any ideas?
::
::
:: It only takes one *message* to be Watched to cause the symptom.
:: If you are sorting by Watched Conversation (e.g. with Group Messages
:: by Conversation checked) and only looking at the watched threads
:: which sort to the top of the message list you could be ignoring other
:: unread messages which are also marked Watched below the
:: Watched threads. Try either turning off threading and then checking
:: with Ctrl-u that there are no unread watched messages or create
:: a new view called Watched which filters out only watched messages
:: and see then how many unread messages the Status bar shows for
:: that view. If Ctrl-u finds a Watched message or if the Status bar
:: in a Watched view shows a nonzero number for "unread" you would have
:: an explanation for your symptom.
::
::
:: :::
:: ::: Thanks
:: :::
:: ::: Bill
:: :::
:: ::: XP2, fully patched IE7 OE6
::
::
:
:



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