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Rob December 27th 06 07:35 AM

Image size changing
 
When sending an image from Word it’s size is reduced when visualized in OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the original fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this same image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated to Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks

Steve Cochran December 27th 06 02:33 PM

Image size changing
 
I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image should be
sized using some imaging program such as irfanview (www.irfanview.com) or if
you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes, you can
resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
specifying height and width.

IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies to OE,
which is why it printed on the single page.

steve

"Rob" wrote in message
...
When sending an image from Word it’s size is reduced when visualized in
OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the original
fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this same
image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated to
Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks



Rob December 27th 06 06:02 PM

Image size changing
 
Thanks Steve,
I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable 241kb
for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to resize
further.
I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When the
same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a lot more
and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to the
image dialogue box in Word?
Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is that
correct?



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image should be
sized using some imaging program such as irfanview (www.irfanview.com) or if
you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes, you can
resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
specifying height and width.

IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies to OE,
which is why it printed on the single page.

steve

"Rob" wrote in message
...
When sending an image from Word it’s size is reduced when visualized in
OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the original
fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this same
image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated to
Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks



Ron Sommer December 27th 06 07:54 PM

Image size changing
 
OE uses the dpi and ignores the size.
Change the dpi to 100.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Rob" wrote in message
...
: Thanks Steve,
: I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable 241kb
: for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to resize
: further.
: I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
: automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When the
: same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a lot
more
: and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
: What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to the
: image dialogue box in Word?
: Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is that
: correct?
:
:
:
: "Steve Cochran" wrote:
:
: I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image should
be
: sized using some imaging program such as irfanview (www.irfanview.com)
or if
: you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes, you
can
: resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
: specifying height and width.
:
: IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies to
OE,
: which is why it printed on the single page.
:
: steve
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: When sending an image from Word it’s size is reduced when visualized
in
: OE.
: When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is enlarged
: respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
original
: fits
: on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this same
: image a
: week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated to
: Internet
: Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
: Thanks
:


Michael Santovec December 27th 06 07:55 PM

Image size changing
 
You mention sending from Word. Are you creating a Word DOC file, then
inserting the image into that and sending the DOC file? In that case,
Word is resizing the image to fit the document.

In the case of sending the raw image, OE does no automatic resizing.
What you see is what you get.

If you use HTML format in OE and then Insert, Picture (rather than File
Attachment), you could go to the Source tab and edit the IMG tag to
specify the display size. This doesn't affect the actual image file
size as sent, just how it is displayed.

If you ant complete control over size, then you need to resize the image
(e.g. in Irfanview) and reduce the number of pixels. Note that many
programs ignore the DPI when displaying/printing.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Thanks Steve,
I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable
241kb
for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to
resize
further.
I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When
the
same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a
lot more
and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to
the
image dialogue box in Word?
Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is
that
correct?



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image
should be
sized using some imaging program such as irfanview
(www.irfanview.com) or if
you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes,
you can
resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
specifying height and width.

IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies
to OE,
which is why it printed on the single page.

steve

"Rob" wrote in message
...
When sending an image from Word it's size is reduced when
visualized in
OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is
enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
original
fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this
same
image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated
to
Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks





Rob December 28th 06 07:48 AM

Image size changing
 
OK, I tried that but had the same problem. In fact the image sent from Word
was partly chopped at the bottom when printed in OE.

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

OE uses the dpi and ignores the size.
Change the dpi to 100.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Rob" wrote in message
...
: Thanks Steve,
: I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable 241kb
: for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to resize
: further.
: I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
: automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When the
: same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a lot
more
: and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
: What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to the
: image dialogue box in Word?
: Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is that
: correct?
:
:
:
: "Steve Cochran" wrote:
:
: I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image should
be
: sized using some imaging program such as irfanview (www.irfanview.com)
or if
: you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes, you
can
: resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
: specifying height and width.
:
: IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies to
OE,
: which is why it printed on the single page.
:
: steve
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: When sending an image from Word it’s size is reduced when visualized
in
: OE.
: When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is enlarged
: respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
original
: fits
: on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this same
: image a
: week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated to
: Internet
: Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
: Thanks
:



Rob December 28th 06 07:50 AM

Image size changing
 
Yes, I am creating a Word DOC file, then inserting the image into that and
sending the DOC file. But Word seems to be resizing arbitrarily. Sometimes it
over enlarges other times it downscales.
I already asked Steve Cohran above what are and where are these Source tab
and IMG tag you both talk about.
Specifying the display size: Is that equivalent to dragging the image handles?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

You mention sending from Word. Are you creating a Word DOC file, then
inserting the image into that and sending the DOC file? In that case,
Word is resizing the image to fit the document.

In the case of sending the raw image, OE does no automatic resizing.
What you see is what you get.

If you use HTML format in OE and then Insert, Picture (rather than File
Attachment), you could go to the Source tab and edit the IMG tag to
specify the display size. This doesn't affect the actual image file
size as sent, just how it is displayed.

If you ant complete control over size, then you need to resize the image
(e.g. in Irfanview) and reduce the number of pixels. Note that many
programs ignore the DPI when displaying/printing.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Thanks Steve,
I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable
241kb
for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to
resize
further.
I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When
the
same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a
lot more
and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to
the
image dialogue box in Word?
Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is
that
correct?



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image
should be
sized using some imaging program such as irfanview
(www.irfanview.com) or if
you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes,
you can
resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
specifying height and width.

IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies
to OE,
which is why it printed on the single page.

steve

"Rob" wrote in message
...
When sending an image from Word it's size is reduced when
visualized in
OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is
enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
original
fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this
same
image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated
to
Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks





Ron Sommer December 28th 06 12:22 PM

Image size changing
 
Are you using Send To mail recipient or Send To mail recipient (as
attachment)?
The first sends an HTML email. Your message and picture would be viewed in
OE.
The HTML code for the image will have height and width attributes.
If you insert a picture in an OE message composition window, OE does not use
height and width attributes.

The second sends a Doc file. It has to be opened in Word.

Please describe how you are sending the Doc file.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Rob" wrote in message
...
: Yes, I am creating a Word DOC file, then inserting the image into that and
: sending the DOC file. But Word seems to be resizing arbitrarily. Sometimes
it
: over enlarges other times it downscales.
: I already asked Steve Cohran above what are and where are these Source tab
: and IMG tag you both talk about.
: Specifying the display size: Is that equivalent to dragging the image
handles?
:
:
: "Michael Santovec" wrote:
:
: You mention sending from Word. Are you creating a Word DOC file, then
: inserting the image into that and sending the DOC file? In that case,
: Word is resizing the image to fit the document.
:
: In the case of sending the raw image, OE does no automatic resizing.
: What you see is what you get.
:
: If you use HTML format in OE and then Insert, Picture (rather than File
: Attachment), you could go to the Source tab and edit the IMG tag to
: specify the display size. This doesn't affect the actual image file
: size as sent, just how it is displayed.
:
: If you ant complete control over size, then you need to resize the image
: (e.g. in Irfanview) and reduce the number of pixels. Note that many
: programs ignore the DPI when displaying/printing.
:
:
: --
:
: Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
:
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: Thanks Steve,
: I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable
: 241kb
: for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to
: resize
: further.
: I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
: automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When
: the
: same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a
: lot more
: and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
: What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to
: the
: image dialogue box in Word?
: Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is
: that
: correct?
:
:
:
: "Steve Cochran" wrote:
:
: I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image
: should be
: sized using some imaging program such as irfanview
: (www.irfanview.com) or if
: you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes,
: you can
: resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
: specifying height and width.
:
: IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies
: to OE,
: which is why it printed on the single page.
:
: steve
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: When sending an image from Word it's size is reduced when
: visualized in
: OE.
: When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is
: enlarged
: respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
: original
: fits
: on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this
: same
: image a
: week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated
: to
: Internet
: Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
: Thanks
:
:
:
:


Steve Cochran December 28th 06 02:04 PM

Image size changing
 
Okay, here's an excuse to post in HTML. G



Here's the IMG element for that image:

IMG src="Blah" where blah is the path.

Now if you go to View | Source Edit then you can go into the source tab and generate the same image, but you can modify it to specify the height and width.



If you look at the source code (CTRL-F2) you'll see that I've explicitly set the image size in the HTML tag as follows:

IMG height=250 src="BLAH" width=142

See http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...bjects/img.asp for details.

Also, most monitors for Windows display at 96 dpi, so you might want to adjust that as well.

steve



"Rob" wrote in message ...
Yes, I am creating a Word DOC file, then inserting the image into that and
sending the DOC file. But Word seems to be resizing arbitrarily. Sometimes it
over enlarges other times it downscales.
I already asked Steve Cohran above what are and where are these Source tab
and IMG tag you both talk about.
Specifying the display size: Is that equivalent to dragging the image handles?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

You mention sending from Word. Are you creating a Word DOC file, then
inserting the image into that and sending the DOC file? In that case,
Word is resizing the image to fit the document.

In the case of sending the raw image, OE does no automatic resizing.
What you see is what you get.

If you use HTML format in OE and then Insert, Picture (rather than File
Attachment), you could go to the Source tab and edit the IMG tag to
specify the display size. This doesn't affect the actual image file
size as sent, just how it is displayed.

If you ant complete control over size, then you need to resize the image
(e.g. in Irfanview) and reduce the number of pixels. Note that many
programs ignore the DPI when displaying/printing.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Thanks Steve,
I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable
241kb
for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to
resize
further.
I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When
the
same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a
lot more
and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to
the
image dialogue box in Word?
Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is
that
correct?



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image
should be
sized using some imaging program such as irfanview
(www.irfanview.com) or if
you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes,
you can
resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
specifying height and width.

IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies
to OE,
which is why it printed on the single page.

steve

"Rob" wrote in message
...
When sending an image from Word it's size is reduced when
visualized in
OE.
When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is
enlarged
respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
original
fits
on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this
same
image a
week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated
to
Internet
Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
Thanks





Rob December 29th 06 07:34 AM

Image size changing
 
I'm sending to mail recipient NOT as an attachment

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

Are you using Send To mail recipient or Send To mail recipient (as
attachment)?
The first sends an HTML email. Your message and picture would be viewed in
OE.
The HTML code for the image will have height and width attributes.
If you insert a picture in an OE message composition window, OE does not use
height and width attributes.

The second sends a Doc file. It has to be opened in Word.

Please describe how you are sending the Doc file.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Rob" wrote in message
...
: Yes, I am creating a Word DOC file, then inserting the image into that and
: sending the DOC file. But Word seems to be resizing arbitrarily. Sometimes
it
: over enlarges other times it downscales.
: I already asked Steve Cohran above what are and where are these Source tab
: and IMG tag you both talk about.
: Specifying the display size: Is that equivalent to dragging the image
handles?
:
:
: "Michael Santovec" wrote:
:
: You mention sending from Word. Are you creating a Word DOC file, then
: inserting the image into that and sending the DOC file? In that case,
: Word is resizing the image to fit the document.
:
: In the case of sending the raw image, OE does no automatic resizing.
: What you see is what you get.
:
: If you use HTML format in OE and then Insert, Picture (rather than File
: Attachment), you could go to the Source tab and edit the IMG tag to
: specify the display size. This doesn't affect the actual image file
: size as sent, just how it is displayed.
:
: If you ant complete control over size, then you need to resize the image
: (e.g. in Irfanview) and reduce the number of pixels. Note that many
: programs ignore the DPI when displaying/printing.
:
:
: --
:
: Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
:
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: Thanks Steve,
: I already used Irfanview and have reduced the image to an acceptable
: 241kb
: for sending. I was hoping there was a solution without having to
: resize
: further.
: I have a 1058x1575 Jpeg image 190dpi. When it is sent from Word it is
: automaticaly streched to fill nearly the whole page when printed. When
: the
: same image is inserted directly in a message in OE it is enlarged a
: lot more
: and only about 1/3 fits on the printed page.
: What do you mean by "image tag of the HTML IMG"? Are you refering to
: the
: image dialogue box in Word?
: Although I have IE7 the info box in OE says I am using version 6. Is
: that
: correct?
:
:
:
: "Steve Cochran" wrote:
:
: I think Word generates a thumbnail, but I'm not sure. The image
: should be
: sized using some imaging program such as irfanview
: (www.irfanview.com) or if
: you don't care about the actual size of the image in terms of bytes,
: you can
: resize it proportionately in the image tag of the HTML IMG element by
: specifying height and width.
:
: IE7 introduces a "shrink to fit" aspect in printing that also applies
: to OE,
: which is why it printed on the single page.
:
: steve
:
: "Rob" wrote in message
: ...
: When sending an image from Word it's size is reduced when
: visualized in
: OE.
: When inserting the same image directly in an OE message it is
: enlarged
: respect to the original. This is also obvious when printed: the
: original
: fits
: on a page while the one printed from OE is to large. I sent this
: same
: image a
: week ago and did not have this problem. In the meantime I updated
: to
: Internet
: Explorer 7. Could that be a possible cause and can it be resolved?
: Thanks
:
:
:
:




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