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Bubey December 28th 06 06:50 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
I would like to have my Outlook Express program on
my External
Drive. Like everything, or at least the "Local
Folders" and Address
Book so when I use it everything would be store on
this drive.
This way it would be more secure from people who
know how
to explore the hard drive. Security
issue..................Thanks !


Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM December 28th 06 07:52 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
"Bubey" wrote in message
...
I would like to have my Outlook Express program on
my External
Drive. Like everything, or at least the "Local
Folders" and Address
Book so when I use it everything would be store on
this drive.
This way it would be more secure from people who
know how
to explore the hard drive. Security
issue..................Thanks !


There is no supported way to do this.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



PA Bear December 28th 06 07:55 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
The OE program folder *must* be located on the boot drive.

Locating your store and Address Book on a network or non-local fixed drive
is not recommended or supported. See
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#network and
http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#netwab
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

Bubey wrote:
I would like to have my Outlook Express program on
my External
Drive. Like everything, or at least the "Local
Folders" and Address
Book so when I use it everything would be store on
this drive.
This way it would be more secure from people who
know how
to explore the hard drive. Security
issue..................Thanks !



Frank Slootweg December 29th 06 10:27 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
PA Bear wrote:
The OE program folder *must* be located on the boot drive.

Locating your store and Address Book on a network or non-local fixed drive
is not recommended or supported. See
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#network and
http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#netwab


Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is a
"non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a "local"
(whatever that is) one wouldn't?

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

Bubey wrote:
I would like to have my Outlook Express program on my External
Drive. Like everything, or at least the "Local Folders" and Address
Book so when I use it everything would be store on this drive.
This way it would be more secure from people who know how to explore
the hard drive. Security issue..................Thanks !


Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM December 30th 06 03:18 AM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...

Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is a
"non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a "local"
(whatever that is) one wouldn't?



non-local = other computer or server
local = Bubey's computer

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



Frank Slootweg December 30th 06 04:18 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...

Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is a
"non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a "local"
(whatever that is) one wouldn't?


non-local = other computer or server
local = Bubey's computer


So Bubey is using a (extra) local (fixed) drive.

So why didn't PA Bear answer the question and why didn't you? (Like
you for example did in the December 23 thread "utilising Two hard
drives" (your ).

I.e. why mention problems which do no apply and why not answer the
question?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.


Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM December 30th 06 05:55 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...

Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is a
"non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a "local"
(whatever that is) one wouldn't?


non-local = other computer or server
local = Bubey's computer


So Bubey is using a (extra) local (fixed) drive.

So why didn't PA Bear answer the question and why didn't you? (Like
you for example did in the December 23 thread "utilising Two hard
drives".


No, Bubey is using an External drive. I guess I should have included
internal in my definition of local.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.



Frank Slootweg December 30th 06 07:00 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...

Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is a
"non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a "local"
(whatever that is) one wouldn't?

non-local = other computer or server
local = Bubey's computer


So Bubey is using a (extra) local (fixed) drive.

So why didn't PA Bear answer the question and why didn't you? (Like
you for example did in the December 23 thread "utilising Two hard
drives".


No, Bubey is using an External drive. I guess I should have included
internal in my definition of local.


Yes, it's external, but it's also local in the sense that it's not a
networked drive.

I assume it's USB or Firewire (sp?) connected, but I don't see how
that's a problem. The OS, nor any application (like OE) will be able to
distinguish it from a 'real' "local", i.e. built-in, drive [1]. Of
course one should not unplug or plug in such a drive while OE is
running, but I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Bubey is
*that* silly/ clueless.

Anyway, if someone has *that* (unplug/plug) concern, then why not
mention *that*, instead of irrelevant concerns about non-applicable
network drives?

[1] Of course the plug&play and related components will be able to tell
the difference.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.


Ron Sommer December 30th 06 08:25 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
: "Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
: ...
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
: "Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
: ...
:
: Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what (exactly) is
a
: "non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a problem while a
"local"
: (whatever that is) one wouldn't?
:
: non-local = other computer or server
: local = Bubey's computer
:
: So Bubey is using a (extra) local (fixed) drive.
:
: So why didn't PA Bear answer the question and why didn't you? (Like
: you for example did in the December 23 thread "utilising Two hard
: drives".
:
: No, Bubey is using an External drive. I guess I should have included
: internal in my definition of local.
:
: Yes, it's external, but it's also local in the sense that it's not a
: networked drive.
:
: I assume it's USB or Firewire (sp?) connected, but I don't see how
: that's a problem. The OS, nor any application (like OE) will be able to
: distinguish it from a 'real' "local", i.e. built-in, drive [1]. Of
: course one should not unplug or plug in such a drive while OE is
: running, but I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Bubey is
: *that* silly/ clueless.
:
: Anyway, if someone has *that* (unplug/plug) concern, then why not
: mention *that*, instead of irrelevant concerns about non-applicable
: network drives?
:
: [1] Of course the plug&play and related components will be able to tell
: the difference.
:
: --
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
: http://www.fjsmjs.com
: Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

It is not possible to install OE to a partition that does not contain the
operating system.
OE puts entries in the Registry.

The OE store folder and wab file can be moved to an external drive, but
there will be problems if the drive is not connected when OE is started.

Bubey's security should use NTFS file system, passwords, and folder
permissions.
--
Ronald Sommer


Frank Slootweg December 30th 06 09:44 PM

How Can I get OE onto an External Drive ?
 
Ron Sommer wrote:

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM wrote:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
...

Bubey is not talking about a network drive. And what
(exactly) is a "non-local fixed drive" and why would it be a
problem while a "local" (whatever that is) one wouldn't?

non-local = other computer or server
local = Bubey's computer

So Bubey is using a (extra) local (fixed) drive.

So why didn't PA Bear answer the question and why didn't you?
(Like you for example did in the December 23 thread "utilising
Two hard drives".

No, Bubey is using an External drive. I guess I should have
included internal in my definition of local.


Yes, it's external, but it's also local in the sense that it's not
a networked drive.

I assume it's USB or Firewire (sp?) connected, but I don't see how
that's a problem. The OS, nor any application (like OE) will be able
to distinguish it from a 'real' "local", i.e. built-in, drive [1].
Of course one should not unplug or plug in such a drive while OE is
running, but I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Bubey is
*that* silly/ clueless.

Anyway, if someone has *that* (unplug/plug) concern, then why not
mention *that*, instead of irrelevant concerns about non-applicable
network drives?

[1] Of course the plug&play and related components will be able to
tell the difference.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.


It is not possible to install OE to a partition that does not contain
the operating system.
OE puts entries in the Registry.


Yes, Bubey already more or less assumed that ("or at least the "Local
Folders" and Address Book") and PA Bear also mentioned it.

The OE store folder and wab file can be moved to an external drive,
but there will be problems if the drive is not connected when OE is
started.


But these wouldn't be *fatal* problems, would they? I.e. start OE
without external drive - Oops, no folders! - exit OE, connect external
drive, start OE - folder back and everybody is happy. Right?

Bubey's security should use NTFS file system, passwords, and folder
permissions.


How would that help? Once the bad guy has physical access to the
external drive, he can hook it up to his own system and override any
NTFS permissions, can't he? Or do you mean *encryption*. If so, can you
give details on how to use encrypted folders in/with OE (if that's at
all possible).

The same goes for physical access to the internal drive, if that is
what you mean. Physical access to the internal drive may be harder than
to the external one, but once yoy have it, there's no difference.


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