deleting mail folders
 

I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the main
group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly different
names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup into these new
folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6. However, when I went
into the store folder on C drive, the deleted folders were still listed as
dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do about it because when I click on
the properties of the deleted dbx files, it suggests they still have the
data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

If you've compacted the database (File/Folders/Compact All Folders)
following the move operation, you can safely delete the old DBX files. You
should be aware that a copy/paste op does not delete anything, it merely
copies the old info so that you can paste it to another location. The
quickest way to "Move" items is to select all the messages you wish to move
(hold down the Ctrl key while selecting or use Ctrl+A to select All) and
then right click, selecting "Move To" and choose the desired folder.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP/Windows Mail applications
Please reply ONLY to newsgroup.


"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the
main group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly
different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup
into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6. However,
when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted folders were
still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do about it because
when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx files, it suggests they
still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it from the
store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move messages,
the space they took up is not recovered until you compact your folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the
main group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly
different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup
into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6. However,
when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted folders were
still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do about it because
when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx files, it suggests they
still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A mail
folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When I checked
the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file there with the
new name, there is also a bak file with the old name neither of which was
there prior to the file compact process. What is this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it from
the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact your
folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the
main group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly
different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup
into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6.
However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted folders
were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do about it
because when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx files, it
suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

When you deleted the dbx file, was OE closed? It won't delete permanently if
OE is open. Close OE and delete any unused dbx files. Restart your computer
and check that all is well in your OE folders. If it is, compact again and
recheck the message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A mail
folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When I
checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file there
with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old name neither of
which was there prior to the file compact process. What is this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it from
the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact your
folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the
main group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly
different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup
into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6.
However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted
folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do
about it because when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx files,
it suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

now I am confused. I only deleted mail folders in OE6; I never deleted the
corresponding dbx files in the store folder. This was the basis for my
initial question. So based on the recommendation, I opened OE6 1st to
compact all mail folders before deleting the empty dbx files in the store
folder. However, 1) when I looked in the Recycle Bin, there were new bak
files for all the folders I had deleted yesterday that are not listed in OE6
under folders. And 2)a mail folder I had renamed yesterday from "typesetter"
to "Copeland" was now listed in OE6 back to "typesetter" although there both
a "copeland" and "typesetter" bak file in the Recycle Bin. Previous to all
this the Recyle Bin was completely empty.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you deleted the dbx file, was OE closed? It won't delete permanently
if OE is open. Close OE and delete any unused dbx files. Restart your
computer and check that all is well in your OE folders. If it is, compact
again and recheck the message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A
mail folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When I
checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file there
with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old name neither of
which was there prior to the file compact process. What is this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it from
the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact your
folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off
of this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of
the main group. So I created new folders under the main group with
slightly different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the
subgroup into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from
OE6. However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted
folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do
about it because when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx
files, it suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

The bak files are created when you compact. This is a backup /just in case/
something happens when you compact.

Delete all unused dbx files in the store folder.

Empty the Recycle Bin.

Now compact your folders. you should get one copy of each dbx file in the RB
as a bak file, and no new, or old dbx files should appear in the message
store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
now I am confused. I only deleted mail folders in OE6; I never deleted the
corresponding dbx files in the store folder. This was the basis for my
initial question. So based on the recommendation, I opened OE6 1st to
compact all mail folders before deleting the empty dbx files in the store
folder. However, 1) when I looked in the Recycle Bin, there were new bak
files for all the folders I had deleted yesterday that are not listed in
OE6 under folders. And 2)a mail folder I had renamed yesterday from
"typesetter" to "Copeland" was now listed in OE6 back to "typesetter"
although there both a "copeland" and "typesetter" bak file in the Recycle
Bin. Previous to all this the Recyle Bin was completely empty.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you deleted the dbx file, was OE closed? It won't delete permanently
if OE is open. Close OE and delete any unused dbx files. Restart your
computer and check that all is well in your OE folders. If it is, compact
again and recheck the message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A
mail folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When
I checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file
there with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old name
neither of which was there prior to the file compact process. What is
this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it
from the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact
your folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off
of this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of
the main group. So I created new folders under the main group with
slightly different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the
subgroup into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from
OE6. However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted
folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do
about it because when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx
files, it suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

A new patch puts a backup of the files in the recycle bin, so the messages
don't get lost during compaction anymore. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

steve

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A mail
folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When I
checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file there
with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old name neither of
which was there prior to the file compact process. What is this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it will
still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete it from
the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact your
folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off of
this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of the
main group. So I created new folders under the main group with slightly
different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from the subgroup
into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders from OE6.
However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the deleted
folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what can I do
about it because when I click on the properties of the deleted dbx files,
it suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

Thank you. That was what I needed to confirm - that the compact feature of
IE backs up every dbx file in the store folder, not just the folders you can
see in OE6. And when you delete a mail folder in OE6, you still have to
delete it in the store folder. I have one more question before I go. I'm
saving mail foldes to CD so I can delete them from my HD. So I'm trying to
be very careful to make sure I have the mail backed up properly. I usually
don't pay attention to size, but after compacting all folders before copying
them - does it make any sense that a mail folder with only 8 messages (no
attachments) would be 11MB when another mail folder with 43 messages of
equal size (but with numerous large attachments) would be only 5MB? Is there
a reasonable explanation for this? Thanks.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
The bak files are created when you compact. This is a backup /just in
case/ something happens when you compact.

Delete all unused dbx files in the store folder.

Empty the Recycle Bin.

Now compact your folders. you should get one copy of each dbx file in the
RB as a bak file, and no new, or old dbx files should appear in the
message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
now I am confused. I only deleted mail folders in OE6; I never deleted
the corresponding dbx files in the store folder. This was the basis for
my initial question. So based on the recommendation, I opened OE6 1st to
compact all mail folders before deleting the empty dbx files in the store
folder. However, 1) when I looked in the Recycle Bin, there were new bak
files for all the folders I had deleted yesterday that are not listed in
OE6 under folders. And 2)a mail folder I had renamed yesterday from
"typesetter" to "Copeland" was now listed in OE6 back to "typesetter"
although there both a "copeland" and "typesetter" bak file in the Recycle
Bin. Previous to all this the Recyle Bin was completely empty.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you deleted the dbx file, was OE closed? It won't delete
permanently if OE is open. Close OE and delete any unused dbx files.
Restart your computer and check that all is well in your OE folders. If
it is, compact again and recheck the message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A
mail folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE. When
I checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak file
there with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old name
neither of which was there prior to the file compact process. What is
this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it
will still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete
it from the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact
your folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup off
of this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be part of
the main group. So I created new folders under the main group with
slightly different names. I copied and pasted all the messages from
the subgroup into these new folders. I then deleted the empty folders
from OE6. However, when I went into the store folder on C drive, the
deleted folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is this and what
can I do about it because when I click on the properties of the
deleted dbx files, it suggests they still have the data in them?

Thanks.

deleting mail folders
 

That size does not make sense. Work offline and compact that folder by
itself and see if there is any change.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thank you. That was what I needed to confirm - that the compact feature of
IE backs up every dbx file in the store folder, not just the folders you
can see in OE6. And when you delete a mail folder in OE6, you still have
to delete it in the store folder. I have one more question before I go.
I'm saving mail foldes to CD so I can delete them from my HD. So I'm
trying to be very careful to make sure I have the mail backed up properly.
I usually don't pay attention to size, but after compacting all folders
before copying them - does it make any sense that a mail folder with only
8 messages (no attachments) would be 11MB when another mail folder with 43
messages of equal size (but with numerous large attachments) would be only
5MB? Is there a reasonable explanation for this? Thanks.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
The bak files are created when you compact. This is a backup /just in
case/ something happens when you compact.

Delete all unused dbx files in the store folder.

Empty the Recycle Bin.

Now compact your folders. you should get one copy of each dbx file in the
RB as a bak file, and no new, or old dbx files should appear in the
message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
now I am confused. I only deleted mail folders in OE6; I never deleted
the corresponding dbx files in the store folder. This was the basis for
my initial question. So based on the recommendation, I opened OE6 1st to
compact all mail folders before deleting the empty dbx files in the
store folder. However, 1) when I looked in the Recycle Bin, there were
new bak files for all the folders I had deleted yesterday that are not
listed in OE6 under folders. And 2)a mail folder I had renamed yesterday
from "typesetter" to "Copeland" was now listed in OE6 back to
"typesetter" although there both a "copeland" and "typesetter" bak file
in the Recycle Bin. Previous to all this the Recyle Bin was completely
empty.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you deleted the dbx file, was OE closed? It won't delete
permanently if OE is open. Close OE and delete any unused dbx files.
Restart your computer and check that all is well in your OE folders. If
it is, compact again and recheck the message store.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
Thanks. But I compacted all the folders and something odd happened. A
mail folder that I had renamed reappeared with the old name in OE.
When I checked the backup files in the Recycle Bin, not only is a bak
file there with the new name, there is also a bak file with the old
name neither of which was there prior to the file compact process.
What is this about?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
When you move messages to a new folder, and delete the old one, it
will still show a dbx file for the deleted one. You can safely delete
it from the store folder.

The reason it shows some size is because when you delete, or move
messages, the space they took up is not recovered until you compact
your folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"donna" wrote in message
...
I have an archive folder section in OE6 and had created a subgroup
off of this with 4 mail folders. I wanted the 4 mail folders to be
part of the main group. So I created new folders under the main group
with slightly different names. I copied and pasted all the messages
from the subgroup into these new folders. I then deleted the empty
folders from OE6. However, when I went into the store folder on C
drive, the deleted folders were still listed as dbx files??? Why is
this and what can I do about it because when I click on the
properties of the deleted dbx files, it suggests they still have the
data in them?

Thanks.