127.0.0.1
 

Thanks Bruce. I've never used Spamkiller myself as I've always used
Spamcop.

I just hate being attacked for no reason.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Peter, I recall you solving your problem by disabling McAfee SpamKiller.
Since you are a volunteer for McAfee, you should realize that **everyone**
here is also a volunteer.

My standard reply says that this problem can be caused by either e-mail
scanning, or a spam program.

Don't give all the *credit* to McAfee. Norton does not work well with OE
either.

Regardless of the E-mail program I choose to use, I would ///NEVER/// use
any program from McAfee, or Symantec.

As far as the settings being changed to 127.0.0.1, any e-mail scanning, or
anti-spam program can cause this to happen in OE.

I'd wish I could blame it all on one program/manufacturer, but it can
happen with them all.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you
are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all
the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software, especially
since it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality for OE users
over the last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just dont give a
hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over
the years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

127.0.0.1
 

No problem, Peter. But when I saw:

Perhaps, but in this case McAfee's VirusScan does not do that, only
SpamKiller.

I had to disagree. Many people use various programs, and any e-mail scanning
program, or spam program can cause this.

A few years ago, I had McAfee for an AV program with e-mail scanning and had
the same problem with my server settings being changed. I have never had a
spam program, let alone SpamKiller.

So all I am saying is that, yes, I agree that McAfee SpamKiller could be a
likely culprit, but if the user does not have McAfee installed, it could be
any spam program, or any e-mail scanning being used.

OE and many third party programs do not get along together. I think we can
agree on that.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Thanks Bruce. I've never used Spamkiller myself as I've always used
Spamcop.

I just hate being attacked for no reason.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Peter, I recall you solving your problem by disabling McAfee SpamKiller.
Since you are a volunteer for McAfee, you should realize that
**everyone** here is also a volunteer.

My standard reply says that this problem can be caused by either e-mail
scanning, or a spam program.

Don't give all the *credit* to McAfee. Norton does not work well with OE
either.

Regardless of the E-mail program I choose to use, I would ///NEVER/// use
any program from McAfee, or Symantec.

As far as the settings being changed to 127.0.0.1, any e-mail scanning,
or anti-spam program can cause this to happen in OE.

I'd wish I could blame it all on one program/manufacturer, but it can
happen with them all.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case
you are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all
the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software,
especially since it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality
for OE users over the last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just
dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over
the years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

127.0.0.1
 

Many thanks to all of you who replied, I'll pop over to my sister's and have
a go at the Mcafee.

Will

"will.3145" wrote:

My sister has a new PC (supplied by Dell), no scary software downloads but 36
months Mcafee supplied as part of the package. Every time I configure her
Outlook Express 6 the mail works fine. However when you re-boot the PC the
incoming mail server defaults to 127.0.0.1 - loopback. I've done this
repeatedly with the same result every time, her ISP blames Mcafee but I do
not understand how the firewall would actually modify the incoming mail
server settings.

Also from one of the accounts I've set up on her machine it simply will not
send at all. I've checked the accounts on web mail and all appears fine, I've
checked the firewall and full access is permitted, have even switched it off
but no change.

Have I made a basic error or is it about time to consider un-installing and
re-installing OE6. Advice would be appreciated.

127.0.0.1
 

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you
are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.


I've been working in the OE newsgroups for ten years and McAfee has been
causing problems with OE for that whole time. Sometimes they fix a problem
(like when it deleted imagehlp.dll) but then it comes up with a new one

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

127.0.0.1
 

Frank...I'm only a volunteer MOD there, so am fully aware of the havoc
McAfee has caused some people.
This particular event is supposed to happen, otherwise Spamkiller might as
well be uninstalled as it wont work.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you
are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.


I've been working in the OE newsgroups for ten years and McAfee has been
causing problems with OE for that whole time. Sometimes they fix a
problem (like when it deleted imagehlp.dll) but then it comes up with a
new one

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

127.0.0.1
 

Hi Peter,

Sorry about the personal attack. I was venting at years of trouble and got
you in the xfire.

I've corresponded with negative results with those who actually work for
that company in the past and also have had some pretty awful experiences
with users. I got the impression you worked for them, so I let go with both
barrels. G

Sorry again.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you
are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all
the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software, especially
since it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality for OE users
over the last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just dont give a
hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over
the years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

127.0.0.1
 

Steve Cochran wrote:
Hi Peter,

Sorry about the personal attack. I was venting at years of trouble
and got you in the xfire.

I've corresponded with negative results with those who actually work
for that company in the past and also have had some pretty awful
experiences with users. I got the impression you worked for them, so
I let go with both barrels. G

Sorry again.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the
way I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your
case you are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and
all the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software,
especially since it results in huge message loss and
disfunctionality for OE users over the last 10 years? Or do you
people test it and just dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they
care about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY
software over the years giving the Windows client, and especially
OE, users a hideous experience, of which your company has extensive
experience. steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is
normal for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails
for Spam. I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as
AS. --
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Too little too late; you've already been identified as a moron w/r to
postings.

127.0.0.1
 

"Poprivet" wrote in message
...
Steve Cochran wrote:
Hi Peter,

Sorry about the personal attack. I was venting at years of trouble
and got you in the xfire.

I've corresponded with negative results with those who actually work
for that company in the past and also have had some pretty awful
experiences with users. I got the impression you worked for them, so
I let go with both barrels. G

Sorry again.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the
way I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your
case you are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and
all the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software,
especially since it results in huge message loss and
disfunctionality for OE users over the last 10 years? Or do you
people test it and just dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they
care about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY
software over the years giving the Windows client, and especially
OE, users a hideous experience, of which your company has extensive
experience. steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is
normal for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails
for Spam. I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as
AS. --
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Too little too late; you've already been identified as a moron w/r to
postings.



Can't wait to see his reply to this. If it wasn't for Steve, we wouldn't
have answers for many OE problems, as he is responsible for creating
numerous programs to fix OE screw-ups.

OE users owe him big time, (And so does MS).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

127.0.0.1
 

No reply needed. No food for the trolls today. G

steve

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...

"Poprivet" wrote in message
...
Steve Cochran wrote:
Hi Peter,

Sorry about the personal attack. I was venting at years of trouble
and got you in the xfire.

I've corresponded with negative results with those who actually work
for that company in the past and also have had some pretty awful
experiences with users. I got the impression you worked for them, so
I let go with both barrels. G

Sorry again.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the
way I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your
case you are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and
all the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software,
especially since it results in huge message loss and
disfunctionality for OE users over the last 10 years? Or do you
people test it and just dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they
care about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY
software over the years giving the Windows client, and especially
OE, users a hideous experience, of which your company has extensive
experience. steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is
normal for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails
for Spam. I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as
AS. --
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Too little too late; you've already been identified as a moron w/r to
postings.



Can't wait to see his reply to this. If it wasn't for Steve, we wouldn't
have answers for many OE problems, as he is responsible for creating
numerous programs to fix OE screw-ups.

OE users owe him big time, (And so does MS).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~