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will.3145 February 13th 07 08:10 AM

127.0.0.1
 
My sister has a new PC (supplied by Dell), no scary software downloads but 36
months Mcafee supplied as part of the package. Every time I configure her
Outlook Express 6 the mail works fine. However when you re-boot the PC the
incoming mail server defaults to 127.0.0.1 - loopback. I've done this
repeatedly with the same result every time, her ISP blames Mcafee but I do
not understand how the firewall would actually modify the incoming mail
server settings.

Also from one of the accounts I've set up on her machine it simply will not
send at all. I've checked the accounts on web mail and all appears fine, I've
checked the firewall and full access is permitted, have even switched it off
but no change.

Have I made a basic error or is it about time to consider un-installing and
re-installing OE6. Advice would be appreciated.

Peter Foldes February 13th 07 09:53 AM

127.0.0.1
 
will

This is caused by the incoming and outgoing email scanning from MacAfee that you have enabled. Disable the email scanning both in outgoing and incoming email and it will solve your issue. You will still be protected .. This scanning is only another layer on top of the scan.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"will.3145" wrote in message ...
My sister has a new PC (supplied by Dell), no scary software downloads but 36
months Mcafee supplied as part of the package. Every time I configure her
Outlook Express 6 the mail works fine. However when you re-boot the PC the
incoming mail server defaults to 127.0.0.1 - loopback. I've done this
repeatedly with the same result every time, her ISP blames Mcafee but I do
not understand how the firewall would actually modify the incoming mail
server settings.

Also from one of the accounts I've set up on her machine it simply will not
send at all. I've checked the accounts on web mail and all appears fine, I've
checked the firewall and full access is permitted, have even switched it off
but no change.

Have I made a basic error or is it about time to consider un-installing and
re-installing OE6. Advice would be appreciated.


Peter February 13th 07 03:17 PM

127.0.0.1
 
This is caused by the Spamkiller application. If you don't want it to happen
then you would have to uninstall Spamkiller.
Further asistance can be obtained at http://forums.mcafeehelp.com/

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"will.3145" wrote in message
...
My sister has a new PC (supplied by Dell), no scary software downloads but
36
months Mcafee supplied as part of the package. Every time I configure her
Outlook Express 6 the mail works fine. However when you re-boot the PC the
incoming mail server defaults to 127.0.0.1 - loopback. I've done this
repeatedly with the same result every time, her ISP blames Mcafee but I do
not understand how the firewall would actually modify the incoming mail
server settings.

Also from one of the accounts I've set up on her machine it simply will
not
send at all. I've checked the accounts on web mail and all appears fine,
I've
checked the firewall and full access is permitted, have even switched it
off
but no change.

Have I made a basic error or is it about time to consider un-installing
and
re-installing OE6. Advice would be appreciated.




Peter February 13th 07 08:23 PM

127.0.0.1
 
Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:10:00 -0800, will.3145 wrote:

Have I made a basic error or is it about time to consider un-installing
and
re-installing OE6. Advice would be appreciated.


Your basic error is allowing McAfee to scan email. Disable AV email
scanning
and all will be well.

Alternatively, you can try and finagle the McAfee configuration, but I
won't
have McAfee on any machine I use. Nor Norton; in fact, on two HP Pavilions
that I recenly set up, I not only did not activate the included NAV, I
used
Add/Remove programs to uninstall them before doing anything else.

One of those computers is now running Grisoft AVG (free, v.7.5), and the
other is running Alwil Avast. Each was installed using the "Custom"
option,
and each was installed _without_ the email scanning component.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.




Peter February 13th 07 11:30 PM

127.0.0.1
 
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal for
Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and everything
to
do with the Spamkiller application.


Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.




Tom Willett February 13th 07 11:50 PM

127.0.0.1
 
This is also normal for several AV programs.

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
| He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal for
| Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
| I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.
|
| --
| Peter
| Toronto, Canada
| XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
| P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
| ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
| Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
|
| "N. Miller" wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:
|
| Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and everything
| to
| do with the Spamkiller application.
|
| Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.
|
| --
| Norman
| ~Shine, bright morning light,
| ~now in the air the spring is coming.
| ~Sweet, blowing wind,
| ~singing down the hills and valleys.
|
|



Peter February 14th 07 01:21 AM

127.0.0.1
 
Perhaps, but in this case McAfee's VirusScan does not do that, only
Spamkiller.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
This is also normal for several AV programs.

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
| He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for
| Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
| I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.
|
| --
| Peter
| Toronto, Canada
| XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
| P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
| ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
| Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
|
| "N. Miller" wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:
|
| Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything
| to
| do with the Spamkiller application.
|
| Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.
|
| --
| Norman
| ~Shine, bright morning light,
| ~now in the air the spring is coming.
| ~Sweet, blowing wind,
| ~singing down the hills and valleys.
|
|





Steve Cochran February 14th 07 01:51 AM

127.0.0.1
 
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all the
other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software, especially since
it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality for OE users over the
last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over the
years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal for
Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and everything
to
do with the Spamkiller application.


Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.





Peter February 14th 07 01:58 AM

127.0.0.1
 
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way I'm
only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you are
obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all the
other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software, especially since
it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality for OE users over the
last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just dont give a hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over
the years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and everything
to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.







Bruce Hagen February 14th 07 02:30 AM

127.0.0.1
 
Peter, I recall you solving your problem by disabling McAfee SpamKiller.
Since you are a volunteer for McAfee, you should realize that **everyone**
here is also a volunteer.

My standard reply says that this problem can be caused by either e-mail
scanning, or a spam program.

Don't give all the *credit* to McAfee. Norton does not work well with OE
either.

Regardless of the E-mail program I choose to use, I would ///NEVER/// use
any program from McAfee, or Symantec.

As far as the settings being changed to 127.0.0.1, any e-mail scanning, or
anti-spam program can cause this to happen in OE.

I'd wish I could blame it all on one program/manufacturer, but it can happen
with them all.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
Go suck a lemon you ape. That's your experience, not mine. By the way
I'm only a volunteer working from home trying (in vain - in your case you
are obviously beyond it) to help people.
People like you make me wonder why anyone helps anyone else at all.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Isn't that nice? Maybe you can explain to people why McAfee (and all
the other av and anti-spam vendors) never test your software, especially
since it results in huge message loss and disfunctionality for OE users
over the last 10 years? Or do you people test it and just dont give a
hoot?

I don't think anyone cares that you change to 124.0.0.1, what they care
about is you have screwed up their system with your SUCKY software over
the years giving the Windows client, and especially OE, users a hideous
experience, of which your company has extensive experience.

steve

"Peter" ex-brit AT rogers DOT com wrote in message
...
He talks about his email server changing to 127.0.0.1...this is normal
for Spamkiller as it acts as local host to filter emails for Spam.
I should know I'm a MOD at McAfee Help.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:23:22 -0500, Peter wrote:

Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with email scanning and
everything to
do with the Spamkiller application.

Eh? The OP only mentions, "McAfee". AV is just as troublesome as AS.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.








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