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I'm trying to set up a certain Message Rule, but can't get it to do what I'd
like. Normally, I keep all of my mail on the server. However, whenever I get "junk mail" in Outlook Express, I'd like to automatically delete it from the server, as well. I've created plenty of Message Rules, so I know how they work. I created a rule that uses the "Delete from server" action, based on specific criteria of what I consider "junk mail". And that part works. In other words, whenever a message arrives that matches my "junk mail" criteria, it does get deleted from my mail server. HOWEVER... I do NOT receive the mail in Outlook Express! It's just "gone". It appears that "Delete from server" also seems to imply "And don't deliver to my Inbox". But that's exactly what I *want* it to do. I'd like the mail delivered to my OE Inbox, AND deleted from the server. I even tried to create two separate Message Rules, using the same selection criteria. The first says "for any matches, Copy this message to a folder called Test". A second, and totally separate, Message Rule says "for any matches, Delete from server". And still, even in this case, the message does get deleted from the server, but it does NOT end up in the Test folder. It's just gone. Any suggestions on how to do both of these -- keep the message in OE *and* delete it from the server??? ------------------------------------------ Frank D. Nicodem, Jr. |
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A Delete it from server rule will not download the message and it will also
delete it from the server, even if you have Leave a copy of messages on the server checked. Unfortunately, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. If you want messages with certain criteria downloaded, you can't use the action to Delete it from server. How to set up OE Message Rules: http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/ http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Frank D. Nicodem, Jr." wrote in message ... I'm trying to set up a certain Message Rule, but can't get it to do what I'd like. Normally, I keep all of my mail on the server. However, whenever I get "junk mail" in Outlook Express, I'd like to automatically delete it from the server, as well. I've created plenty of Message Rules, so I know how they work. I created a rule that uses the "Delete from server" action, based on specific criteria of what I consider "junk mail". And that part works. In other words, whenever a message arrives that matches my "junk mail" criteria, it does get deleted from my mail server. HOWEVER... I do NOT receive the mail in Outlook Express! It's just "gone". It appears that "Delete from server" also seems to imply "And don't deliver to my Inbox". But that's exactly what I *want* it to do. I'd like the mail delivered to my OE Inbox, AND deleted from the server. I even tried to create two separate Message Rules, using the same selection criteria. The first says "for any matches, Copy this message to a folder called Test". A second, and totally separate, Message Rule says "for any matches, Delete from server". And still, even in this case, the message does get deleted from the server, but it does NOT end up in the Test folder. It's just gone. Any suggestions on how to do both of these -- keep the message in OE *and* delete it from the server??? ------------------------------------------ Frank D. Nicodem, Jr. |
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![]() "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... A Delete it from server rule will not download the message and it will also delete it from the server, even if you have Leave a copy of messages on the server checked. Unfortunately, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Thanks for the tip. I'm just a bit baffled as to why what I'm trying to do can't be done! It sure seems like there's no "conflict" in what I want to accomplish. As I already mentioned, I have chosen to leave E-mail on my server; and all I want to do is to download EVERYTHING -- and then *AFTER* that, I want to apply some message rules (such as moving certain messages to other folders, automatically deleting "spam", etc.). And one of the things I'd like to do is to "delete from server" anything that I consider worthless to keep (even though I'd still like to download it and check it out first). So that seems like two totally separate and independent steps: 1) retrieve my E-mail and let me evaluate it based on messages rules; and 2) under certain conditions, remove the original from the server -- but leave it on my E-mail client. That sure seems like it should be do-able... Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm This was the most helpful article -- although, once again, I'm baffled by WHY it works the way it does. For now, I guess I have to just bite the bullet, and remove the Message Rule, let the E-mail download into my Inbox folder, and then go back and manually delete messages from my server that I don't want to keep. Sure sounds like an unnecessary hassle. But thanks for the help! ------------------------------------ Frank D. Nicodem., Jr. |
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Frank D. Nicodem, Jr. wrote:
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... A Delete it from server rule will not download the message and it will also delete it from the server, even if you have Leave a copy of messages on the server checked. Unfortunately, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Thanks for the tip. I'm just a bit baffled as to why what I'm trying to do can't be done! It sure seems like there's no "conflict" in what I want to accomplish. As I already mentioned, I have chosen to leave E-mail on my server; and all I want to do is to download EVERYTHING -- and then *AFTER* that, I want to apply some message rules (such as moving certain messages to other folders, automatically deleting "spam", etc.). And one of the things I'd like to do is to "delete from server" anything that I consider worthless to keep (even though I'd still like to download it and check it out first). So that seems like two totally separate and independent steps: 1) retrieve my E-mail and let me evaluate it based on messages rules; and 2) under certain conditions, remove the original from the server -- but leave it on my E-mail client. That sure seems like it should be do-able... *Perhaps* if you change your requirements a little, it *is* doable, but you will have to test it or/and the MVPs (or others) in this group have to say whether it works or not. What I am thinking of is to have a message rule or set of rules which does with your desired mail what you want and for any spam tick the "Copy it to the specified folder" *and* the "Delete it" Actions. Then do Tools - Accounts... - Mail - click on desired account - Properties - Advanced. You will have "Leave a copy of messages on the server" option ticked. Now also tick "Remove from server when deleted from 'Deleted Items'" option. What I think (hope? :-)) will happen is that the message rule will copy any spam to a spam folder *and* 'delete' it. 'delete' probably means 'put it in the Deleted Items folder'. Now if you delete the spam from the Deleted Items folder, either manually or automatically, I think/hope the spam will be deleted from your server, which is what you want. I.e. - Valid mail in folders and on server. - Spam in folder, but not on server. I hope this helps. [deleted] |
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What you want to do may seem reasonable to you, but it's not the way
Outlook Express was written. There are 2 ways that OE will delete message from the server. 1) Via a message rule with an action of Delete from Server. This just downloads the message header, sees if the message meets the criteria, and if so, tells the server to delete the message. The downloaded message header is thrown away and the message body is never downloaded. This is designed to get rid of message you never want to see and don't want to waste time even downloading. Especially helpful for large messages on a dial-up line 2) Tools, Accounts, Mail, Properties, Advanced, Leave a copy on the server. This applies only to messages downloaded in their entirety. If you don't check the option, then for every message you download OE sends a delete command to the mail server. If you do check the option, then OE doesn't send the delete command unless/until the message meets the further criteria that you might enable there. And those are you options in OE. -- Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm "Frank D. Nicodem, Jr." wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... A Delete it from server rule will not download the message and it will also delete it from the server, even if you have Leave a copy of messages on the server checked. Unfortunately, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Thanks for the tip. I'm just a bit baffled as to why what I'm trying to do can't be done! It sure seems like there's no "conflict" in what I want to accomplish. As I already mentioned, I have chosen to leave E-mail on my server; and all I want to do is to download EVERYTHING -- and then *AFTER* that, I want to apply some message rules (such as moving certain messages to other folders, automatically deleting "spam", etc.). And one of the things I'd like to do is to "delete from server" anything that I consider worthless to keep (even though I'd still like to download it and check it out first). So that seems like two totally separate and independent steps: 1) retrieve my E-mail and let me evaluate it based on messages rules; and 2) under certain conditions, remove the original from the server -- but leave it on my E-mail client. That sure seems like it should be do-able... Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm This was the most helpful article -- although, once again, I'm baffled by WHY it works the way it does. For now, I guess I have to just bite the bullet, and remove the Message Rule, let the E-mail download into my Inbox folder, and then go back and manually delete messages from my server that I don't want to keep. Sure sounds like an unnecessary hassle. But thanks for the help! ------------------------------------ Frank D. Nicodem., Jr. |
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