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[email protected] March 5th 07 11:51 PM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
I have been told that Windows Express Update will install IE7.
I vaguely recall that IE7 is not a good thing. But I don't know
any specifics.

Is there truly any reason to avoid IE7?

Do I need to do anything special during or after installing IE7
in order for OE to work cleanly?

(My understanding is that OE is part of IE6, but not IE7.)

Are there any (other) hiccups to be aware of during or after
installing IE7?

PS: What is the rationale for including a product update (IE7
replacing IE6) among "critical" updates? Does IE7 fix any
critical problem in IE6? Just curious....


PA Bear March 6th 07 12:08 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
Inline:

wrote:
I have been told that Windows Express Update will install IE7.
I vaguely recall that IE7 is not a good thing. But I don't know
any specifics.


Up until about week ago, Windows Update was offering IE7 as a High-Priority,
not a Critical, update. It's now offered as an Optional update.

Is there truly any reason to avoid IE7?


Not IMHO, no.

Do I need to do anything special during or after installing IE7
in order for OE to work cleanly?


Not unless you access an MSN/Hotmail account in OE, no.

(My understanding is that OE is part of IE6, but not IE7.)


Installing IE7 doesn't not update OE(6).

Are there any (other) hiccups to be aware of during or after
installing IE7?


Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:

Sandi's Installation Tips = FOLLOW THESE TIPS TO THE LETTER!
http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install

[And I strongly recommend using
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx as the installation source,
not Automatic/Windows Update.]

IEBlog : IE7 Installation and Anti-Malware Applications
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...lications.aspx

PS: What is the rationale for including a product update (IE7
replacing IE6) among "critical" updates? Does IE7 fix any
critical problem in IE6? Just curious....


What's New in Internet Explorer 7
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/e...asp?frame=true

Release Notes
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/ie/Aa740486

This is an OE6-specific newsgroup. Those with IE7-specific questions or
comments are asked to post to and seek support in this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

On the web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...orer. general

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


mikey March 6th 07 12:46 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
download the complete install package from microsoft IE7 site.
what I did to update mine was use MSCONFIG and disable all Startup items.
reboot.
Install DOWNLOADED IE7.
reboot.
run MSCONFIG and enable le all startup items.
reboot.

IE7 runs flawlessly with no[problems.





wrote in message oups.com...
I have been told that Windows Express Update will install IE7.
I vaguely recall that IE7 is not a good thing. But I don't know
any specifics.

Is there truly any reason to avoid IE7?

Do I need to do anything special during or after installing IE7
in order for OE to work cleanly?

(My understanding is that OE is part of IE6, but not IE7.)

Are there any (other) hiccups to be aware of during or after
installing IE7?

PS: What is the rationale for including a product update (IE7
replacing IE6) among "critical" updates? Does IE7 fix any
critical problem in IE6? Just curious....


[email protected] March 6th 07 02:25 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
On Mar 5, 3:08 pm, "PA Bear" wrote:
This is an OE6-specific newsgroup. Those with IE7-specific questions or
comments are asked to post to and seek support in this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general


Many thanks to all who responded.

Good point! An oversight on my part. Let me review all the responses
so far -- they all seem very helpful -- to see if it is worthwhile
reposting in the other NG. I'm sure many of the respondents here also
read the other NG. So there might some grumbling about "crossposting"
at this point.

Up until about week ago, Windows Update was offering IE7 as a High-Priority,
not a Critical, update. It's now offered as an Optional update.


I'm a neophyte when it comes to Windows Updates. If I do the Express
Update, does it install only Critical updates; does it also include
High-Priority updates; does it give me the choice of also installing
Optional updates?

I was told that I need to use Custom Update in order to separate out
IE7. Am I understanding you correctly that that is no longer the
case?

I am curious: why did MS downgrade the status of the IE7 "update"? I
am wondering if the answer might give me some insight into any
reasonable concerns that I should have.

Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:
[... list follows ...]


Many thanks. I'm sure this will all be very helpful.


[email protected] March 6th 07 02:32 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
On Mar 5, 3:02 pm, "N. Miller" wrote:
I would remove all BHOs, toolbars, and any other third party customizations.


I don't believe I have any, so I might be in good shape. But I worry
about BHOs that might have been installed without my explicit
knowledge. How do I remove them?

(I used to have a tool that identified things like that. HiJacker?
Hmm, looks like I did install it on this new computer.)

Return MSIE6 to a pristine condition, and ensure that it is up to date.
[...] I had removed all customizations first. I have not encountered any
problems.


Glad to hear. But I wonder: did you truly "have to" make all those
changes first, or were you just being cautious? Did you have problems
without those changes; or did you of others that did? Did the
problems occur when installing the production IE7 or the beta version?

Thanks for all the tips.


[email protected] March 6th 07 02:34 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
On Mar 5, 3:08 pm, "PA Bear" wrote:
Do I need to do anything special during or after installing IE7
in order for OE to work cleanly?


Not unless you access an MSN/Hotmail account in OE, no.


I'm curious: what is it specifically about MSN/Hotmail accounts that
encounter trouble?

One computer that I will update does pop email from an Earthlink
server.


PA Bear March 6th 07 06:11 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
Crossposted to IE General newsgroup to avoid duplication of effort.

I'm a neophyte when it comes to Windows Updates.


http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ webpage gives you a lot of information.

Are you familiar with Automatic Updates?

Description of the Automatic Updates feature in Windows:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294871

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306525

How to schedule automatic updates in WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=327838

...If I do the Express
Update, does it install only Critical updates; does it also include
High-Priority updates; does it give me the choice of also installing
Optional updates?


Windows Update website's Express install will install all critical and
high-priority updates only. You need to select Custom install to install
any Optional updates.

You can ask Windows Update-related questions in the Windows Update-specific
newsgroup, microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

I am curious: why did MS downgrade the status of the IE7 "update"?


On or around 22 Feb-07, IE7 was reclassified from a High-Priority update to
an Optional update at Windows Update. We've asked why and haven't received
an answer.

I'm curious: what is it specifically about MSN/Hotmail accounts that
encounter trouble?


No trouble, really: Changes in IE7 affect the way OE and OL interact with a
HTTP-based mail server; as such, those accessing an MSN/Hotmail HTTP-based
account in OE or OL need to install KB904942.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

wrote:
On Mar 5, 3:08 pm, "PA Bear" wrote:
This is an OE6-specific newsgroup. Those with IE7-specific questions or
comments are asked to post to and seek support in this newsgroup:
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general


Many thanks to all who responded.

Good point! An oversight on my part. Let me review all the responses
so far -- they all seem very helpful -- to see if it is worthwhile
reposting in the other NG. I'm sure many of the respondents here also
read the other NG. So there might some grumbling about "crossposting"
at this point.

Up until about week ago, Windows Update was offering IE7 as a
High-Priority, not a Critical, update. It's now offered as an Optional
update.


I'm a neophyte when it comes to Windows Updates. If I do the Express
Update, does it install only Critical updates; does it also include
High-Priority updates; does it give me the choice of also installing
Optional updates?

I was told that I need to use Custom Update in order to separate out
IE7. Am I understanding you correctly that that is no longer the
case?

I am curious: why did MS downgrade the status of the IE7 "update"? I
am wondering if the answer might give me some insight into any
reasonable concerns that I should have.

Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:
[... list follows ...]


Many thanks. I'm sure this will all be very helpful.



...winston March 6th 07 09:07 AM

What's wrong with IE7?
 
See below..
wrote in message oups.com...
: On Mar 5, 3:08 pm, "PA Bear" wrote:
: One computer that I will update does pop email from an Earthlink
: server.
:
IE7 should not impact your pop3 use of OE for Earthlink.


...winston

tania March 7th 07 06:55 PM

What's wrong with IE7?
 

ha scritto nel messaggio
oups.com...
I have been told that Windows Express Update will install IE7.
I vaguely recall that IE7 is not a good thing. But I don't know
any specifics.

Is there truly any reason to avoid IE7?

Do I need to do anything special during or after installing IE7
in order for OE to work cleanly?

(My understanding is that OE is part of IE6, but not IE7.)

Are there any (other) hiccups to be aware of during or after
installing IE7?

PS: What is the rationale for including a product update (IE7
replacing IE6) among "critical" updates? Does IE7 fix any
critical problem in IE6? Just curious....





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