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Mantra March 10th 07 06:59 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
I don't use Internet Explorer.
How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
I need to download and install it offline.
As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.

The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????


Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM March 10th 07 08:22 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
That's very interesting. You posted with Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com


"Mantra" wrote in message
...
I don't use Internet Explorer.
How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
I need to download and install it offline.
As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.

The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????




Sunny March 10th 07 08:22 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 

"Mantra" wrote in message ...
|I don't use Internet Explorer.
| How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
| And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
| I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
| at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
| I need to download and install it offline.
| As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.
|
| The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
| works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
| Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
| ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????

Never heard of OE Service pack 1.
Do you go to a Ford Dealer to get updates for a GM Product ?
Why don't you use IE just to keep your Microsoft OS updated?

...winston March 10th 07 09:15 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
Frank,
I suspect the op is using W2K with a service pack less than SP4 which may also explain the version/sp level of OE in his properties, thus his earlier posts and attempts looking for any of the current OE updates(patch or cumulative) which at the minimum require XPsp2, W2Ksp4, and IE will remain fruitless.

If so then his system(work) is not capable of meeting the last few OE cumulative updates requirements, As an example..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS06-076.mspx




"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message ...
: That's very interesting. You posted with Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1.
:
: --
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
: http://www.fjsmjs.com
:
:
: "Mantra" wrote in message
: ...
: I don't use Internet Explorer.
: How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
: And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
: I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
: at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
: I need to download and install it offline.
: As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.
:
: The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
: works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
: Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
: ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????
:
:
:

Mantra March 10th 07 11:40 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
"...winston" wrote in message ...
Frank,
I suspect the op is using W2K with a service pack less than SP4
which may also explain the version/sp level of OE in his properties,
thus his earlier posts and attempts looking for any of the current
OE updates(patch or cumulative) which at the minimum require
XPsp2, W2Ksp4, and IE will remain fruitless.

If so then his system(work) is not capable of meeting the last few
OE cumulative updates requirements, As an example..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS06-076.mspx


Your assumption is not correct.
And this all still does not answer the simple question:
WHERE IS THIS OMINOUS SERVICE PACK 1 FOR OE6 SUPPOSED TO BE?
Just give me a link where to download the damn thing.


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message ...
: That's very interesting. You posted with Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1.

Why do I then get an error message when I try to install some of "Updates to OE SP1" ?
It says that OE SP1 would be needed...
I got the "Updates to OE6 SP1" from the following link,
but I need the "OE6 SP1" itself too! (It's not listed there)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...A-9EFF90CD5D90



--
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
: http://www.fjsmjs.com
:
:
: "Mantra" wrote in message
: ...
: I don't use Internet Explorer.
: How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
: And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
: I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
: at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
: I need to download and install it offline.
: As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.
:
: The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
: works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
: Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
: ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????


Mantra March 10th 07 11:53 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
"Sunny" wrote in message ...

"Mantra" wrote in message ...
|I don't use Internet Explorer.
| How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
| And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
| I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
| at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
| I need to download and install it offline.
| As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.
|
| The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
| works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
| Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
| ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????

Never heard of OE Service pack 1.


See the list below. OE SP1 is multiple times mentioned,
but the the OE SP1 itself is missing in the list.

Do you go to a Ford Dealer to get updates for a GM Product ?
Why don't you use IE just to keep your Microsoft OS updated?


Because Internet Explorer is SH*T !
Because of this I'm using another browser.
Is it a sin to use a different web browser?
After all it's just a web browser, a dumb application.
I'm not crazy to use IE again!


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...A-9EFF90CD5D90

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Steve Cochran March 10th 07 01:04 PM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
Just use IE for Windows Update and bite the bullet. There is no other
resolution.

steve

"Mantra" wrote in message
...
I don't use Internet Explorer.
How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link given.
I need to download and install it offline.
As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web browser.

The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????



Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM March 10th 07 01:44 PM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 
OE6 SP1 is part of IE6 SP1.
Start install of IE6 SP1 and when offered a chance choose custom install.
But you really should install all of IE6 SP1 because it also updates some
system files.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com


"Mantra" wrote in message
...
"...winston" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I suspect the op is using W2K with a service pack less than SP4
which may also explain the version/sp level of OE in his properties,
thus his earlier posts and attempts looking for any of the current
OE updates(patch or cumulative) which at the minimum require
XPsp2, W2Ksp4, and IE will remain fruitless.

If so then his system(work) is not capable of meeting the last few
OE cumulative updates requirements, As an example..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS06-076.mspx


Your assumption is not correct.
And this all still does not answer the simple question:
WHERE IS THIS OMINOUS SERVICE PACK 1 FOR OE6 SUPPOSED TO BE?
Just give me a link where to download the damn thing.


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
: That's very interesting. You posted with Outlook Express 6 Service Pack
1.

Why do I then get an error message when I try to install some of "Updates
to OE SP1" ?
It says that OE SP1 would be needed...
I got the "Updates to OE6 SP1" from the following link,
but I need the "OE6 SP1" itself too! (It's not listed there)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/B...A-9EFF90CD5D90



--
: Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
: http://www.fjsmjs.com
:
:
: "Mantra" wrote in message
: ...
: I don't use Internet Explorer.
: How can I still get the Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 ?
: And: WHERE is this Outlook Express v6 Service Pack 1 at all?
: I have not been able to find it, but it is mentioned many times
: at the MS website and in MS newsgroups, but there is no direct link
given.
: I need to download and install it offline.
: As said we don't use Internet Explorer, we use a different web
browser.
:
: The Windows Update website ( http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ )
: works only with Microsoft's browser Internet Explorer !
: Isn't that a breach of the U.S. and E.U. cartel and monopoly laws,
: ie. discriminating the other browser vendors and their users ????




...winston March 11th 07 08:00 AM

Discrimination at Microsoft! I don't use Internet Explorer - How can I get the Outlook Express Service Pack 1 ?
 

"Mantra" wrote in message
...

Your assumption is not correct.
And this all still does not answer the simple question:
WHERE IS THIS OMINOUS SERVICE PACK 1 FOR OE6 SUPPOSED TO BE?
Just give me a link where to download the damn thing.



Even with the incorrect assumption, you'll need IE(presence is different
than use) to obtain all the proper OE updates and associated system files.
The link ? start he
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
"This version includes a full installation of the Web browser and the
****most recent version of Outlook Express****, the e-mail client that is
included with Internet Explorer.
or he
Windows Update(you need IE)








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