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Ray10X10 March 28th 07 02:58 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10

Bruce Hagen March 28th 07 03:07 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using XP/SP2
*fully patched*.

I don't know what Best Buy did, but DBXpress run in Extract From Disk mod is
the only tool that has a chance once messages were compacted, (not
compressed). Bloated folders cause loss of messages as well. Here is my
standard reply. Please heed the part about archiving messages to prevent
this in the future.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, and are fully patched, then you should have a
backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first close OE and
locate the Message Store in Windows Explorer.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty, folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

Open the Recycle bin and right click on the bak file for the folder in
question and click Restore. Open the Message Store back up and change the
file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close the Message Store and open OE. The
messages should now be back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

And this good one click backup program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10



Steve Cochran March 28th 07 03:44 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
DBXpress is by far the better. DBXtract is 8 years old and the detection
algorithm is not nearly as good as DBXpress. Its also several orders of
magnitude faster.

If your hard drive was only reformatted and not overwritten, then DBXpress
has an extract from disk feature that will bypass any file system and search
the disk clusters for messages. I tested by filling up 5 gigabyte partition
and then formatting it and then the program recovered 132,000 messages from
it. But that will depend on how many disk clusters that originally
contained message were overwritten with other stuff.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10



Ray10X10 March 28th 07 01:10 PM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Thank You, Bruce, for responding to my request for help.

You wrote, "You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using
XP/SP2
*fully patched*."

What do you mean by "fully patched?"

Is "fully patched" the same as "updated to the current date?"

I am running XP/SP2 and my computer is set to be automatically updated by
Microsoft every night.

Am I wrong to assume that Microsoft keeps my computer updated to the max?
Please respond to this question.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using XP/SP2
*fully patched*.

I don't know what Best Buy did, but DBXpress run in Extract From Disk mod is
the only tool that has a chance once messages were compacted, (not
compressed). Bloated folders cause loss of messages as well. Here is my
standard reply. Please heed the part about archiving messages to prevent
this in the future.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, and are fully patched, then you should have a
backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first close OE and
locate the Message Store in Windows Explorer.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty, folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

Open the Recycle bin and right click on the bak file for the folder in
question and click Restore. Open the Message Store back up and change the
file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close the Message Store and open OE. The
messages should now be back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

And this good one click backup program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10




Ray10X10 March 28th 07 01:28 PM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Thank You, Steve, for responding to my request for help.

I am so glad to hear that there is a possibility that I may be able to
recover some of my data from my hard drive that Best Buy formatted, instead
of, recovering the data.

I had contacted several hard drive manufacturers about data recovery, but
they only informed me about the professional data recovery services which
cost thousands of dollars -- out of my pay scale.

I even contacted several major universities and asked whether their computer
science labs would recover my data as an advanced computer student lab
project.
I was surprised to learn that they did not even teach data recovery in these
universities.

Steve, you are the only person who has offered the slightest hint of hope
for my data recovery. Thank You for taking time to share your knowledge with
me.

I will purchase DBXpress and hope that it will recover my missing E-mails,
and then try it on my formatted hard drive. After I got my hard drive back
from Best Buy, I did not install it back into my computer. So it has not
been used
since it was formatted. So, I am hoping that I will be able to recover my
data.
I will need to find time to re-install the hard drive and put DBXpress to
work on finding my data.

I do not understand why Best Buy could not recover my data.

Again, thank you, Steve for your help,
--
Ray10X10


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

DBXpress is by far the better. DBXtract is 8 years old and the detection
algorithm is not nearly as good as DBXpress. Its also several orders of
magnitude faster.

If your hard drive was only reformatted and not overwritten, then DBXpress
has an extract from disk feature that will bypass any file system and search
the disk clusters for messages. I tested by filling up 5 gigabyte partition
and then formatting it and then the program recovered 132,000 messages from
it. But that will depend on how many disk clusters that originally
contained message were overwritten with other stuff.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10



Bruce Hagen March 28th 07 05:08 PM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Visit Windows Updates manually and see if there is any updates that weren't
downloaded.

Also, Open OE | Help | About and scroll down to msoe.dll. If it starts:
6.00.2900.3028, then OE is up-to-date and copies of your dbx files will be
created in the Recycle Bin when you compact.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Thank You, Bruce, for responding to my request for help.

You wrote, "You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are
using
XP/SP2
*fully patched*."

What do you mean by "fully patched?"

Is "fully patched" the same as "updated to the current date?"

I am running XP/SP2 and my computer is set to be automatically updated by
Microsoft every night.

Am I wrong to assume that Microsoft keeps my computer updated to the max?
Please respond to this question.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using XP/SP2
*fully patched*.

I don't know what Best Buy did, but DBXpress run in Extract From Disk mod
is
the only tool that has a chance once messages were compacted, (not
compressed). Bloated folders cause loss of messages as well. Here is my
standard reply. Please heed the part about archiving messages to prevent
this in the future.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or
bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, and are fully patched, then you should have a
backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first close OE and
locate the Message Store in Windows Explorer.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under
Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty,
folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact*
same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new
folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

Open the Recycle bin and right click on the bak file for the folder in
question and click Restore. Open the Message Store back up and change the
file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close the Message Store and open OE.
The
messages should now be back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete
the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

And this good one click backup program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle
Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do
anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10





Steve Cochran March 28th 07 07:07 PM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Its the only program in the world that will specifically read the entire
hard drive disk clusters for OE messages.

It was quite tricky to write, so its no wonder Best Buy couldn't do it.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Thank You, Steve, for responding to my request for help.

I am so glad to hear that there is a possibility that I may be able to
recover some of my data from my hard drive that Best Buy formatted,
instead
of, recovering the data.

I had contacted several hard drive manufacturers about data recovery, but
they only informed me about the professional data recovery services which
cost thousands of dollars -- out of my pay scale.

I even contacted several major universities and asked whether their
computer
science labs would recover my data as an advanced computer student lab
project.
I was surprised to learn that they did not even teach data recovery in
these
universities.

Steve, you are the only person who has offered the slightest hint of hope
for my data recovery. Thank You for taking time to share your knowledge
with
me.

I will purchase DBXpress and hope that it will recover my missing E-mails,
and then try it on my formatted hard drive. After I got my hard drive
back
from Best Buy, I did not install it back into my computer. So it has not
been used
since it was formatted. So, I am hoping that I will be able to recover my
data.
I will need to find time to re-install the hard drive and put DBXpress to
work on finding my data.

I do not understand why Best Buy could not recover my data.

Again, thank you, Steve for your help,
--
Ray10X10


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

DBXpress is by far the better. DBXtract is 8 years old and the detection
algorithm is not nearly as good as DBXpress. Its also several orders of
magnitude faster.

If your hard drive was only reformatted and not overwritten, then
DBXpress
has an extract from disk feature that will bypass any file system and
search
the disk clusters for messages. I tested by filling up 5 gigabyte
partition
and then formatting it and then the program recovered 132,000 messages
from
it. But that will depend on how many disk clusters that originally
contained message were overwritten with other stuff.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle
Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do
anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10




Ricky March 29th 07 01:30 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
I've used this program to recover files on a formatted HD. It recovered all
files that were on there. You can try it free but you have to buy it to
recover the files. It might be worth a shot it the other doesn't work.
http://www.runtime.org/

Good Luck

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Thank You, Steve, for responding to my request for help.

I am so glad to hear that there is a possibility that I may be able to
recover some of my data from my hard drive that Best Buy formatted,
instead
of, recovering the data.

I had contacted several hard drive manufacturers about data recovery, but
they only informed me about the professional data recovery services which
cost thousands of dollars -- out of my pay scale.

I even contacted several major universities and asked whether their
computer
science labs would recover my data as an advanced computer student lab
project.
I was surprised to learn that they did not even teach data recovery in
these
universities.

Steve, you are the only person who has offered the slightest hint of hope
for my data recovery. Thank You for taking time to share your knowledge
with
me.

I will purchase DBXpress and hope that it will recover my missing E-mails,
and then try it on my formatted hard drive. After I got my hard drive
back
from Best Buy, I did not install it back into my computer. So it has not
been used
since it was formatted. So, I am hoping that I will be able to recover my
data.
I will need to find time to re-install the hard drive and put DBXpress to
work on finding my data.

I do not understand why Best Buy could not recover my data.

Again, thank you, Steve for your help,
--
Ray10X10


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

DBXpress is by far the better. DBXtract is 8 years old and the detection
algorithm is not nearly as good as DBXpress. Its also several orders of
magnitude faster.

If your hard drive was only reformatted and not overwritten, then
DBXpress
has an extract from disk feature that will bypass any file system and
search
the disk clusters for messages. I tested by filling up 5 gigabyte
partition
and then formatting it and then the program recovered 132,000 messages
from
it. But that will depend on how many disk clusters that originally
contained message were overwritten with other stuff.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle
Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do
anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10





Ray10X10 March 29th 07 10:16 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Bruce, I followed your instructions for verifying that my computer is "fully
patched."
Yes, the right codes were there. So I should be "fully patched."

I wonder why no copies of my files showed up in my recycle bin.

Again, Thank you, Bruce, for your help.
--
Ray10X10


"Ray10X10" wrote:

Thank You, Bruce, for responding to my request for help.

You wrote, "You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using
XP/SP2
*fully patched*."

What do you mean by "fully patched?"

Is "fully patched" the same as "updated to the current date?"

I am running XP/SP2 and my computer is set to be automatically updated by
Microsoft every night.

Am I wrong to assume that Microsoft keeps my computer updated to the max?
Please respond to this question.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

You will only have a backup in the Recycle Bin if you are using XP/SP2
*fully patched*.

I don't know what Best Buy did, but DBXpress run in Extract From Disk mod is
the only tool that has a chance once messages were compacted, (not
compressed). Bloated folders cause loss of messages as well. Here is my
standard reply. Please heed the part about archiving messages to prevent
this in the future.

The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the
compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), or bloated
folders. More on that below.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tools:

If you are running XP/SP2, and are fully patched, then you should have a
backup of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, copied as bak files.

To restore a bak folder to the message store folder, first close OE and
locate the Message Store in Windows Explorer.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, the .dbx files are by default marked as hidden. To view these
files in Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
| Control Panel | Folder Options | View.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the missing, or empty, folder
and drag it to the Desktop. It can be deleted later once you have
successfully restored the bak file. Minimize the Message Store.

Open OE and, if the folder is missing, create a folder with the *exact* same
name as the bak file you want to restore but without the .bak. Eg: If the
file is Saved.bak, the new folder should be named Saved. Open the new folder
and then close OE. If the folder is there, but just empty, continue on to
the next step.

Open the Recycle bin and right click on the bak file for the folder in
question and click Restore. Open the Message Store back up and change the
file extension from .bak to .dbx. Close the Message Store and open OE. The
messages should now be back in the folder.

If the messages are successfully restored, you can go ahead and delete the
old dbx file that you moved to the Desktop.

If you do not have bak copies of your dbx files in the Recycle Bin, then:

DBXpress run in Extract From Disk Mode is the best chance to recover
messages:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

And this good one click backup program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10




Ray10X10 March 29th 07 10:20 AM

DBXpress vs DBXtract
 
Thank You, Steve,

Your response has encouraged me that I might be able to recover some of my
valuable files from that formatted hard drive.

Again, thank you, very much,
--
Ray10X10


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Its the only program in the world that will specifically read the entire
hard drive disk clusters for OE messages.

It was quite tricky to write, so its no wonder Best Buy couldn't do it.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Thank You, Steve, for responding to my request for help.

I am so glad to hear that there is a possibility that I may be able to
recover some of my data from my hard drive that Best Buy formatted,
instead
of, recovering the data.

I had contacted several hard drive manufacturers about data recovery, but
they only informed me about the professional data recovery services which
cost thousands of dollars -- out of my pay scale.

I even contacted several major universities and asked whether their
computer
science labs would recover my data as an advanced computer student lab
project.
I was surprised to learn that they did not even teach data recovery in
these
universities.

Steve, you are the only person who has offered the slightest hint of hope
for my data recovery. Thank You for taking time to share your knowledge
with
me.

I will purchase DBXpress and hope that it will recover my missing E-mails,
and then try it on my formatted hard drive. After I got my hard drive
back
from Best Buy, I did not install it back into my computer. So it has not
been used
since it was formatted. So, I am hoping that I will be able to recover my
data.
I will need to find time to re-install the hard drive and put DBXpress to
work on finding my data.

I do not understand why Best Buy could not recover my data.

Again, thank you, Steve for your help,
--
Ray10X10


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

DBXpress is by far the better. DBXtract is 8 years old and the detection
algorithm is not nearly as good as DBXpress. Its also several orders of
magnitude faster.

If your hard drive was only reformatted and not overwritten, then
DBXpress
has an extract from disk feature that will bypass any file system and
search
the disk clusters for messages. I tested by filling up 5 gigabyte
partition
and then formatting it and then the program recovered 132,000 messages
from
it. But that will depend on how many disk clusters that originally
contained message were overwritten with other stuff.

steve

"Ray10X10" vacantlot.com wrote in message
...
Which application DBXpress or DBXtract is better . . .

1. to recover missing Emails when they do not show up in the Recycle
Bin?
OE6 compressed my E-mails. I was not using my computer.
There were no programs running, and no interruptions.
When the compressing was finished my Inbox Emails from January to
March
were missing. Sent Emails were still present.
There were no Emails in my recycle bin.

2. to recover data from a hard drive that a computer store - Best Buy
formatted after failing to recover my data?
I had given them clear instructions to call me and to not do
anything
to my
hard drive, but they changed shifts and formatted my hard drive.

Can one of these two applications still recover my missing Emails?

Can one of these two applications recover data from my formatted hard
drive?

Your knowledgeable advice will really be appreciated.
Thank You,
--
Ray10X10




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