I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they had 982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them to get
so many?

Thank you very much!

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

I'm not quite sure I see that as being the source of the problem. They very
rarely go to sites so I don't think that is where the spam would be coming
from. They are up there in years and they use the computer very little.
Basically just for e-mail. By the way, I do not have any rules set up as you
suggested and I don't get much spam. So why are they and I am not?

Thanks.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

There could be many reasons for getting spam. The thing I hate most with
e-mail is the people that continue to forward something such as a Joke, and
keeping everyone e-mail address in the forward.

I get mail that sometimes has hundreds of e-mail addresses, and if I wanted
to, I could easily go to a Website like Priceline.com, or Lendingtree and
enter someone else's address and WHAM, here comes the spam for them.

If they only use the computer for e-mail, maybe you could use an Address
Book only rule and expand from there as needed.

I would filter in the mail. Start with the Address Book only rule and as you
get messages you want from people not in your Address Book, (E-mail from
businesses, bills, your ISP, etc.), you can add them to the rule.

Tools | Options | Message Rules | Mail | New.

Box 1 - Where the From line contains people {check it}

Box 2 - Check: Delete it & Stop processing more rules if you want messages
not in the Address Book to go to Deleted Items, or you can create a Junk
folder and direct them there.

You can choose Delete it from server, but be careful as you will never have
any messages downloaded to any folder if you choose this option.

Box 3 - Click on the blue words Contains People

Click on the first address to highlight it. Scroll down to the end and hold
down the Ctrl key while you click on the last address. This will highlight
them all. Right click on them and click on From in the menu that appears.

Now click Options and Choose: Message *does not contain* the people below in
the top Options box, and choose: Message matches any one of the people below
in the bottom Options box.

OK your way out of the new rule.

Now, only addresses you entered will be downloaded to your Inbox. You will
not see any other e-mail.

Don't forget, if you add someone to your Address Book, you will have to add
them to the rule. It will not be added automatically.

Be sure to see these links for more options.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I'm not quite sure I see that as being the source of the problem. They
very
rarely go to sites so I don't think that is where the spam would be coming
from. They are up there in years and they use the computer very little.
Basically just for e-mail. By the way, I do not have any rules set up as
you
suggested and I don't get much spam. So why are they and I am not?

Thanks.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is
the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They
are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they
had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them
to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

Damn.... 982 messages in 5 days? That's incredible.

Personally, I would generate them new email address.

Have you examined their current address for some type
of characteristic where the address is simply being con-
structed, rather than really being harvested from some
other source.

I'm not a spammer/marketing type, so I can't give any
conclusive details. But, I would think something like the
following examples might get you on the spam list faster
that a more obscure address.

??????@domain where ?????? is:

mommy, daddy, junior, boss, senior, "any proper name",
sister, brother, etc.....

Another thing, although it won't decrease the spam, but
will make it much easier to purge. I set a simple rule to
reroute all my inbox traffic to deleted folder. I then just
gaze the folder for anything of value, moving it out for
saving.

Then, since the deleted folder offers an "empty folder"
option, I just purge the whole thing in one click. Works
very well for me, but I get very little spam anyway.

Thanks,

Gary





"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

I don't know what type of e-mails they are getting and will definitely go
take a look to see if there is a general theme of spam coming through.
However, I am curious why they would get so many when I only get maybe 10-12
a day. Are you sure there isn't another way to decrease the number of junk
e-mails through another method instead of rules. As I said, I don't have any
rules set up in my Outlook Express. However, I do have such things as
Spybot, A2 Squared, Avast, Ad-Aware, etc. Are they doing anything to
eliminate them from my computer?

Thanks!

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

There could be many reasons for getting spam. The thing I hate most with
e-mail is the people that continue to forward something such as a Joke, and
keeping everyone e-mail address in the forward.

I get mail that sometimes has hundreds of e-mail addresses, and if I wanted
to, I could easily go to a Website like Priceline.com, or Lendingtree and
enter someone else's address and WHAM, here comes the spam for them.

If they only use the computer for e-mail, maybe you could use an Address
Book only rule and expand from there as needed.

I would filter in the mail. Start with the Address Book only rule and as you
get messages you want from people not in your Address Book, (E-mail from
businesses, bills, your ISP, etc.), you can add them to the rule.

Tools | Options | Message Rules | Mail | New.

Box 1 - Where the From line contains people {check it}

Box 2 - Check: Delete it & Stop processing more rules if you want messages
not in the Address Book to go to Deleted Items, or you can create a Junk
folder and direct them there.

You can choose Delete it from server, but be careful as you will never have
any messages downloaded to any folder if you choose this option.

Box 3 - Click on the blue words Contains People

Click on the first address to highlight it. Scroll down to the end and hold
down the Ctrl key while you click on the last address. This will highlight
them all. Right click on them and click on From in the menu that appears.

Now click Options and Choose: Message *does not contain* the people below in
the top Options box, and choose: Message matches any one of the people below
in the bottom Options box.

OK your way out of the new rule.

Now, only addresses you entered will be downloaded to your Inbox. You will
not see any other e-mail.

Don't forget, if you add someone to your Address Book, you will have to add
them to the rule. It will not be added automatically.

Be sure to see these links for more options.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I'm not quite sure I see that as being the source of the problem. They
very
rarely go to sites so I don't think that is where the spam would be coming
from. They are up there in years and they use the computer very little.
Basically just for e-mail. By the way, I do not have any rules set up as
you
suggested and I don't get much spam. So why are they and I am not?

Thanks.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that is
the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems. They
are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday they
had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing them
to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

Spybot, A2 Squared, Avast, Ad-Aware, etc. do nothing for spam. They're are
spam programs out there, K9, PopFile etc, but many people experience
problems with OE and spam programs, and IMHO, they are usually more work
than they are worth.

Who is their ISP? They may have a spam program that is much easier to
manage.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


"ACE" wrote in message
...
I don't know what type of e-mails they are getting and will definitely go
take a look to see if there is a general theme of spam coming through.
However, I am curious why they would get so many when I only get maybe
10-12
a day. Are you sure there isn't another way to decrease the number of
junk
e-mails through another method instead of rules. As I said, I don't have
any
rules set up in my Outlook Express. However, I do have such things as
Spybot, A2 Squared, Avast, Ad-Aware, etc. Are they doing anything to
eliminate them from my computer?

Thanks!

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

There could be many reasons for getting spam. The thing I hate most with
e-mail is the people that continue to forward something such as a Joke,
and
keeping everyone e-mail address in the forward.

I get mail that sometimes has hundreds of e-mail addresses, and if I
wanted
to, I could easily go to a Website like Priceline.com, or Lendingtree and
enter someone else's address and WHAM, here comes the spam for them.

If they only use the computer for e-mail, maybe you could use an Address
Book only rule and expand from there as needed.

I would filter in the mail. Start with the Address Book only rule and as
you
get messages you want from people not in your Address Book, (E-mail from
businesses, bills, your ISP, etc.), you can add them to the rule.

Tools | Options | Message Rules | Mail | New.

Box 1 - Where the From line contains people {check it}

Box 2 - Check: Delete it & Stop processing more rules if you want
messages
not in the Address Book to go to Deleted Items, or you can create a Junk
folder and direct them there.

You can choose Delete it from server, but be careful as you will never
have
any messages downloaded to any folder if you choose this option.

Box 3 - Click on the blue words Contains People

Click on the first address to highlight it. Scroll down to the end and
hold
down the Ctrl key while you click on the last address. This will
highlight
them all. Right click on them and click on From in the menu that appears.

Now click Options and Choose: Message *does not contain* the people below
in
the top Options box, and choose: Message matches any one of the people
below
in the bottom Options box.

OK your way out of the new rule.

Now, only addresses you entered will be downloaded to your Inbox. You
will
not see any other e-mail.

Don't forget, if you add someone to your Address Book, you will have to
add
them to the rule. It will not be added automatically.

Be sure to see these links for more options.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I'm not quite sure I see that as being the source of the problem. They
very
rarely go to sites so I don't think that is where the spam would be
coming
from. They are up there in years and they use the computer very
little.
Basically just for e-mail. By the way, I do not have any rules set up
as
you
suggested and I don't get much spam. So why are they and I am not?

Thanks.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow
and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that
is
the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems.
They
are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday
they
had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They
do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing
them
to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

ACE wrote:
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that
is the e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many
problems. They are having a terrible time with junk mail. From
Wednesday to Sunday they had 982 junk e-mails. I on the other hand
do not get near that many. They do have a Sophos anti-virus on their
computer but no spyware or ad-aware type programs. Would that help or
is there something else that would be causing them to get so many?

Thank you very much!

Here are some basics on the subject:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000477.htm
http://www.techsoup.org/learningcent...t/page4782.cfm
http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/...0-225-121.html

Also, be sure to warn them about phishing scams and be sure they NEVER click
a link in a spam!

Tools:
Antivirus software AVG is good.
firewall (ZoneAlarm is good and still free)
spyware detectors, IFF you think they would run them.
Adaware, Spybot, windows defender are good ones.

To everyone that has replied, thank you so very much. I didn't realize spam
was so hard to control with Outlook Express. I had signed them up with
Highstream.net and didn't like their e-mail system, which is why I set them
up with Outlook Express. I thought it was cleaner and easier to use.
However, could part of the problem be the ISP? I see that question was asked
in this discussion.

I must set something in place for them, because they are not real savvy on
the computer. I will definitely take a look at everything that has been
suggested in all of these replies and hopefully can come up with a solution.
Imagine, 982 junk e-mails. Considering they use dial-up, I imagine it took
forever to receive all that crap.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I'll do my best to set
something up for them. BTW, I'm not a real whiz with computers either, thus
the reason I was hoping for a quick "fix."

Thanks.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Spybot, A2 Squared, Avast, Ad-Aware, etc. do nothing for spam. They're are
spam programs out there, K9, PopFile etc, but many people experience
problems with OE and spam programs, and IMHO, they are usually more work
than they are worth.

Who is their ISP? They may have a spam program that is much easier to
manage.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


"ACE" wrote in message
...
I don't know what type of e-mails they are getting and will definitely go
take a look to see if there is a general theme of spam coming through.
However, I am curious why they would get so many when I only get maybe
10-12
a day. Are you sure there isn't another way to decrease the number of
junk
e-mails through another method instead of rules. As I said, I don't have
any
rules set up in my Outlook Express. However, I do have such things as
Spybot, A2 Squared, Avast, Ad-Aware, etc. Are they doing anything to
eliminate them from my computer?

Thanks!

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

There could be many reasons for getting spam. The thing I hate most with
e-mail is the people that continue to forward something such as a Joke,
and
keeping everyone e-mail address in the forward.

I get mail that sometimes has hundreds of e-mail addresses, and if I
wanted
to, I could easily go to a Website like Priceline.com, or Lendingtree and
enter someone else's address and WHAM, here comes the spam for them.

If they only use the computer for e-mail, maybe you could use an Address
Book only rule and expand from there as needed.

I would filter in the mail. Start with the Address Book only rule and as
you
get messages you want from people not in your Address Book, (E-mail from
businesses, bills, your ISP, etc.), you can add them to the rule.

Tools | Options | Message Rules | Mail | New.

Box 1 - Where the From line contains people {check it}

Box 2 - Check: Delete it & Stop processing more rules if you want
messages
not in the Address Book to go to Deleted Items, or you can create a Junk
folder and direct them there.

You can choose Delete it from server, but be careful as you will never
have
any messages downloaded to any folder if you choose this option.

Box 3 - Click on the blue words Contains People

Click on the first address to highlight it. Scroll down to the end and
hold
down the Ctrl key while you click on the last address. This will
highlight
them all. Right click on them and click on From in the menu that appears.

Now click Options and Choose: Message *does not contain* the people below
in
the top Options box, and choose: Message matches any one of the people
below
in the bottom Options box.

OK your way out of the new rule.

Now, only addresses you entered will be downloaded to your Inbox. You
will
not see any other e-mail.

Don't forget, if you add someone to your Address Book, you will have to
add
them to the rule. It will not be added automatically.

Be sure to see these links for more options.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I'm not quite sure I see that as being the source of the problem. They
very
rarely go to sites so I don't think that is where the spam would be
coming
from. They are up there in years and they use the computer very
little.
Basically just for e-mail. By the way, I do not have any rules set up
as
you
suggested and I don't get much spam. So why are they and I am not?

Thanks.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

If you use your e-mail address in non-trusted sites, spam will follow
and
continue to get worse.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I recently set up Outlook Express on my parents computer, since that
is
the
e-mail program I use and typically don't have too many problems.
They
are
having a terrible time with junk mail. From Wednesday to Sunday
they
had
982
junk e-mails. I on the other hand do not get near that many. They
do
have a
Sophos anti-virus on their computer but no spyware or ad-aware type
programs.
Would that help or is there something else that would be causing
them
to
get
so many?

Thank you very much!

"Gary Walker" wrote in message
news

Damn.... 982 messages in 5 days? That's incredible.


That's not incredible. I get about 500 a day and don't consider it a
problem. I have mail rules that move more that 95% of the real mail to
other folders and I scan through the senders and subjects of the rest before
deleting. Just takes a few minutes.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.