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Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Port 110 is blocked after changing account. Reboot makes port 110 open, but
only for the first user. This started to happen a month ago. Is there any solution? Rebooting it not! |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"Mike" wrote in message ... Port 110 is blocked after changing account. Reboot makes port 110 open, but only for the first user. This started to happen a month ago. Is there any solution? Rebooting it not! Please post any complete error messages |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account',
Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Port 110 is blocked after changing account. Reboot makes port 110 open, but only for the first user. This started to happen a month ago. Is there any solution? Rebooting it not! Please post any complete error messages |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"Mike" wrote in message ... The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Disable any third party interference to your mail, such as spam blockers and the mail scan option in your AV application. |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or
receive mail after changing account in windows. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Disable any third party interference to your mail, such as spam blockers and the mail scan option in your AV application. |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago.
Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely
nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
I am also having this same problem starting about the same time as you others
(more than a month ago). But only now I started to investigate it. Have you solved the problem? I haven't. But I can tell you some more details from my investigations: * It is not Outlook 6 that causes the problem. You can have the same effect if using telnet. Start telnet. Enter command o. Enter hostname of your email server like pop3.hostname You should get a response like 'Hello', but in our case you get error message 'connection to server hostname cannot be established. However after booting and in your first XP login session, you get nice response 'Hello'. * changing windows account is not important, but relogin is. You get the error with login in with same user account the second time (after logging out first) * You don't need to use email in your first windows login session to get this error. If logout your windows account without using email, and login again and then use your email client, you get same error message 0x800ccc0e .... * from above we can say, that error becomes whenever you logout and login again * I use Norton Internet security 2005, but I disabled it for 1 minute while performing the test. Error still occurred while Norton was disabled. I had tried also disabling Norton's antispam feature, but it did not solve the problem. * It is not only the POP3 protocol that causes problems. Same thing with SMTP, while at least I am having another service provider for outbound emails. If I have something in my outbox, I get similar error message, but this time for SMTP protocol and hostname is the hostname of my outgoing email provider's. * suprisingly my Norton is NOT logging any activity in these error cases into its logs. Would that be an indication that something is blocking these port 110 and 25 totally and no networking takes place at all. Has anybody tried to report this to Microsoft? My XP licence for support to MS is overdue, so I cannot do it. For You others, who might want to give solutions: please do not suspect that there is something wrong with email account settings. Nor the services of the email provider, because email works fine with provider's browser based tool and as I told you, I have different providers for incoming and outgoing mail and problem applies both. Really, email config problems is not the case here. Everything works fine after booting. I am not expecting to have a virus either. Personnally I have in mind, that some of the Microsoft's hotfixes has brought a feature, where port 110 and 25 are blocked if logged in the second time. br: Kimmo "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Sorry an important part - the port 110 - was missing from my telnet command
syntax. Here is a correct example for email server named pop3.myemailserver.com using POP3 protocol * start menu-run..telnet * enter command o * enter pop3.myemailserver.com 110 * with normal situation you should get a message like 'Hello'. * to quit connection enter command quit * to quit telnet enter command quit br: Kimmo "Kimmo" wrote: * It is not Outlook 6 that causes the problem. You can have the same effect if using telnet. Start telnet. Enter command o. Enter hostname of your email server like pop3.hostname You should get a response like 'Hello', but in our case you get error message 'connection to server hostname cannot be established. However after booting and in your first XP login session, you get nice response 'Hello'. |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Carole, which software are you using for virus and firewall?
Only asking to rule out that possibility. "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
I managed to recieve email by marking the server to send by SSL port 995 but
I can't send after first relogin. "Kimmo" wrote: Sorry an important part - the port 110 - was missing from my telnet command syntax. Here is a correct example for email server named pop3.myemailserver.com using POP3 protocol * start menu-run..telnet * enter command o * enter pop3.myemailserver.com 110 * with normal situation you should get a message like 'Hello'. * to quit connection enter command quit * to quit telnet enter command quit br: Kimmo "Kimmo" wrote: * It is not Outlook 6 that causes the problem. You can have the same effect if using telnet. Start telnet. Enter command o. Enter hostname of your email server like pop3.hostname You should get a response like 'Hello', but in our case you get error message 'connection to server hostname cannot be established. However after booting and in your first XP login session, you get nice response 'Hello'. |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
I have NIS 2005 and disabling it did not solve the problem. I really do
think this is a Windows Update problem. I read an article some time back that there were problems with SP2 and Outlook Express. The problem was a different one, but maybe some of the new updates have caused more problems. My XP support license may still be good and I might give that a try, but I'm always hesitant because you always get a level one support person on your first try and it always seems like you have to go through several replies before they actually are able to identify the problem. I know they will first try to rule out if it is our ISP's. On another post, it was mentioned that NIS might have corrupted User Identity files and suggest creating a new identity. But, what a pain! I'm sure tht means you can't save anything from Outlook. Right? "Mike" wrote: Carole, which software are you using for virus and firewall? Only asking to rule out that possibility. "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Below is a fix I found in another post. It answers my question about saving
the old identity's files. I may try this to see if it works. Also, the article I read about SP2 causing problems with OE was with archiving files. Evidently the work around is not as simple as uninstalling SP2. I would think this would be the same for uninstalling any updates. This is a reply from the other thread: "Don't give up yet: Your current Identity may be damaged by NIS, especially if its the default Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity (File Identities Add new identity). Assuming all is well, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2) import messages from the old identity into the new one, and then (3) delete the old one (File Identities Manage Identities). To avoid such corruption in futu - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local folders created for this purpose. - Empty Deleted Items folder daily. - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is automatically compacting your message store." I have NIS 2005 and disabling it did not solve the problem. I really do think this is a Windows Update problem. I read an article some time back that there were problems with SP2 and Outlook Express. The problem was a different one, but maybe some of the new updates have caused more problems. My XP support license may still be good and I might give that a try, but I'm always hesitant because you always get a level one support person on your first try and it always seems like you have to go through several replies before they actually are able to identify the problem. I know they will first try to rule out if it is our ISP's. On another post, it was mentioned that NIS might have corrupted User Identity files and suggest creating a new identity. But, what a pain! I'm sure tht means you can't save anything from Outlook. Right? "Mike" wrote: Carole, which software are you using for virus and firewall? Only asking to rule out that possibility. "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
It's definitely the April Windows update!!!! Those patch numbers are
KB930178, 931261, 931784, 932168. I installed them on 4/14. I tried unistalling them, and like I thought, not that simple! I did a system restore for 4/13 (day before install) and it totally fixed the problem. Checked program files after restore and the updates are gone and OE is working just dandy! The people at MS who are advising people on this blog that it's just a "coincidence" that the problems with OE start appearing after the April updates are full of doo doo!! Now, just to make sure, I need to run Live Update with NIS to make sure that wasn't the culprit. Will check back. "Carole" wrote: Below is a fix I found in another post. It answers my question about saving the old identity's files. I may try this to see if it works. Also, the article I read about SP2 causing problems with OE was with archiving files. Evidently the work around is not as simple as uninstalling SP2. I would think this would be the same for uninstalling any updates. This is a reply from the other thread: "Don't give up yet: Your current Identity may be damaged by NIS, especially if its the default Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity (File Identities Add new identity). Assuming all is well, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2) import messages from the old identity into the new one, and then (3) delete the old one (File Identities Manage Identities). To avoid such corruption in futu - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local folders created for this purpose. - Empty Deleted Items folder daily. - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is automatically compacting your message store." I have NIS 2005 and disabling it did not solve the problem. I really do think this is a Windows Update problem. I read an article some time back that there were problems with SP2 and Outlook Express. The problem was a different one, but maybe some of the new updates have caused more problems. My XP support license may still be good and I might give that a try, but I'm always hesitant because you always get a level one support person on your first try and it always seems like you have to go through several replies before they actually are able to identify the problem. I know they will first try to rule out if it is our ISP's. On another post, it was mentioned that NIS might have corrupted User Identity files and suggest creating a new identity. But, what a pain! I'm sure tht means you can't save anything from Outlook. Right? "Mike" wrote: Carole, which software are you using for virus and firewall? Only asking to rule out that possibility. "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"Carole" wrote in message
... This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. In that case check to see if there are any residual connections still apparent before you try logging in as the new user. Wait until those go away before attempting a login. E.g. perhaps your ISP has a limit on the number of open connections. Unfortunately OE seems to rely more on timeout for dropping a connection (e.g. rather than sending a quit command) so if your host server has a long timeout and it has a low limit on the number of open connections from the same IP address you would have an explanation for your symptom. To check for the connections switch to a cmd window and enter netstat -anp tcp You can use Kimmo's idea about using telnet in another cmd window (e.g. get the POP3 prompt there) and then switch to the cmd window where you will do the netstat command to see how this would work. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. What kind of link do you have then? E.g. if it is dial-up (PPP) or PPPoE you could also try disconnecting the link and reconnecting. That would at least kill connections on the client side but unless you got a different IP address it wouldn't necessarily change things on the server side (i.e., still assuming a *long* timeout there as a possible cause of your symptom.) Good luck Robert Aldwinckle --- |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"Carole" wrote in message
... It's definitely the April Windows update!!!! Those patch numbers are KB930178, 931261, 931784, 932168. I installed them on 4/14. I tried unistalling them, and like I thought, not that simple! I did a system restore for 4/13 (day before install) and it totally fixed the problem. Checked program files after restore and the updates are gone and OE is working just dandy! The people at MS who are advising people on this blog that it's just a "coincidence" that the problems with OE start appearing after the April updates are full of doo doo!! Now, just to make sure, I need to run Live Update with NIS to make sure that wasn't the culprit. I have all of those patches and have had no problems since installing them. NIS is probably interfering with something in those patches. Norton and McAfee are bad for OE and not good for WinXP. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM http://www.fjsmjs.com |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
There are numerous articles on the net that supports that the April Updates
are interferring with other programs. Below is one of them. MS originally tried to blame other programs with differnet types of problems that was occuring with IE and OE. Here's a link from the Washington Post: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/secur..._round_of.html I own NIS 2005 and haven't had any problems for 2 years until I installed the April updates. Should MS be giving patches that interfere with NIS? I mean which came first? Why aren't we looking at this the other way around? Sounds like there could be a problem with the April Updates and NIS, but why are we blaming a program that has not caused me any problems until I installed the Windows Updates? I will not be reinstalling the April Updates until I research this a bit more. I did a System Restore and it solved the problem. "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: "Carole" wrote in message ... It's definitely the April Windows update!!!! Those patch numbers are KB930178, 931261, 931784, 932168. I installed them on 4/14. I tried unistalling them, and like I thought, not that simple! I did a system restore for 4/13 (day before install) and it totally fixed the problem. Checked program files after restore and the updates are gone and OE is working just dandy! The people at MS who are advising people on this blog that it's just a "coincidence" that the problems with OE start appearing after the April updates are full of doo doo!! Now, just to make sure, I need to run Live Update with NIS to make sure that wasn't the culprit. I have all of those patches and have had no problems since installing them. NIS is probably interfering with something in those patches. Norton and McAfee are bad for OE and not good for WinXP. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM http://www.fjsmjs.com |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Sorry! The Washington Post article was from last April. Nevertheless, it
looks like it's happening again. I tried to uninstall the patches using "Add/Remove Programs" tool and it wouldn't work. The only thing that worked was System Restore. I'm leary about reinstalling the April 2007 patches until I've researched this a bit more! I've updated NIS and I'm not having any problems. Getting rid of the patches worked for me. I will definitely contact MS about this. "Carole" wrote: There are numerous articles on the net that supports that the April Updates are interferring with other programs. Below is one of them. MS originally tried to blame other programs with differnet types of problems that was occuring with IE and OE. Here's a link from the Washington Post: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/secur..._round_of.html I own NIS 2005 and haven't had any problems for 2 years until I installed the April updates. Should MS be giving patches that interfere with NIS? I mean which came first? Why aren't we looking at this the other way around? Sounds like there could be a problem with the April Updates and NIS, but why are we blaming a program that has not caused me any problems until I installed the Windows Updates? I will not be reinstalling the April Updates until I research this a bit more. I did a System Restore and it solved the problem. "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: "Carole" wrote in message ... It's definitely the April Windows update!!!! Those patch numbers are KB930178, 931261, 931784, 932168. I installed them on 4/14. I tried unistalling them, and like I thought, not that simple! I did a system restore for 4/13 (day before install) and it totally fixed the problem. Checked program files after restore and the updates are gone and OE is working just dandy! The people at MS who are advising people on this blog that it's just a "coincidence" that the problems with OE start appearing after the April updates are full of doo doo!! Now, just to make sure, I need to run Live Update with NIS to make sure that wasn't the culprit. I have all of those patches and have had no problems since installing them. NIS is probably interfering with something in those patches. Norton and McAfee are bad for OE and not good for WinXP. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM http://www.fjsmjs.com |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told
you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to google hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you
are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to google hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Doing a System Restore is not hard at all. Go to
StartProgramsAccessoriesSystem ToolsSystem Restore. I did find the problem on other forums and hope Bruce H, can uncover something because I don't like the fact that the security patches are not installed. It's just not a good compromise that I'm able to open my email, but be vunerable to threats. I may try reinstalling to see what happens. Don't know right now! "Kimmo" wrote: I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to google hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Here's a post I copied off of Symantec's STN forum. Though not the same
problem, there seems to be definite compatibility issue with the recent security patches. Uninstalling them didn't work for me, so that's why I had to opt in doing a System Restore. Here's the post from Symantec: Since last week when I installed the April Updates on my Windows 2003 backup server, my backup performance became really slow. Backup-to-disk jobs took twice as much time as before and even the duplicate jobs to tape where way slower than before. After a few days of diagnosis I uninstalled the April Updates 930178, 931784 and 932168 yesterday. The tonight job now was as fast as before. Just to let you guys know if you stepped in the same situation. My backup server is a HP DL380 G4 with a MSA20 disk array and a Dell PowerVault 132T SDLT library attached for backup-to-disk-to-tape strategy. Greetings, Valentin Zovko "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to google hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
This is my problem since April 25th, upon returning to the computer after a 2
week absence. Verified with ISP about connections and all is okay. Changed settings in AV and still can only receive/send email one time after a reboot. Second attempt and I receive the error message: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'mail.kpunet.net', Server: 'mail.kpunet.net', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E. I attempted to restore and was unable to do so.... this is very frustrating and I'm not really seeing a solution at MS or AV sites or here.... "Carole" wrote: This exact same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my ISP connection or email settings. You need to pay attention that this in only happening when a new user is logging on. This does not happen if you reboot/restart the computer. This only happens when one user logs off and another user logons. After reboot, everything works fine! Like Mike said, having to reboot is not a solution. "Mike" wrote: It is nothing wrong with my ISP. Everything was working fine for a month ago. Still works fine, but only for the first user. Next user who logs in gets the error 10061. Port 110 and 25 are blocked. And I have edit the error message, because I was not at home. "mac" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Spam blockers and mail scan did not change anything. Still can't send or receive mail after changing account in windows. Mike, the error indicates that you are failing to connect to the server, most common reason for this is that you have the wrong POP and or SMTP server in your account setup, or you are trying to connect to a server that you are not connected to? Check at your ISP for the correct settings. Who is your ISP because the error does not appear to return a valid server name? Most errors appear like this for example: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'timber2498', Server: 'pop.mail.yahoo.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Your error is: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'your_account', Server:'your_POP3_server', Protocol:POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): NO, Socket error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800ccc0e Did you edit the error? What is the connection setting in the account toolsaccountsdouble click the accountconnection tab? Try removing the always connect using check mark? |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
The first thing I would do is remove the updates via Add/Remove Programs,
(check the Show Updates box at the top), then, download them again with your AV *OFF*. It often prevents a clean install of any download, be it a patch, or a program. That said, I must reiterate that Norton has not worked well, and has caused many problems with OE for years. Even if you had Norton for a long time, a problem can crop up at any time. I do not know if removing Norton will fix your problem, but I sure would try. If you can find one OE MVP that would suggest using Norton, I will pay for your subscription for a year. I would suggest either Avast, (freeware), or NOD32, (not free). In the case of Avast, choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange. Avast: http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html NOD32: http://www.eset.com/ To remove Norton completely: Commonly used Symantec tools: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05103109480139 Using the Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 Removing NAV 2003 and earlier using Rnav2003.exe. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01092114452606 Symantec NIS, NAV and NSW 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm Symantec NIS, Norton Antispam, and NPF 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem1.htm And if necessary: http://www.ccleaner.com/ -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Carole" wrote in message ... Here's a post I copied off of Symantec's STN forum. Though not the same problem, there seems to be definite compatibility issue with the recent security patches. Uninstalling them didn't work for me, so that's why I had to opt in doing a System Restore. Here's the post from Symantec: Since last week when I installed the April Updates on my Windows 2003 backup server, my backup performance became really slow. Backup-to-disk jobs took twice as much time as before and even the duplicate jobs to tape where way slower than before. After a few days of diagnosis I uninstalled the April Updates 930178, 931784 and 932168 yesterday. The tonight job now was as fast as before. Just to let you guys know if you stepped in the same situation. My backup server is a HP DL380 G4 with a MSA20 disk array and a Dell PowerVault 132T SDLT library attached for backup-to-disk-to-tape strategy. Greetings, Valentin Zovko "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
"quiltlover" wrote in message
... This is my problem since April 25th, upon returning to the computer after a 2 week absence. Verified with ISP about connections and all is okay. Changed settings in AV and still can only receive/send email one time after a reboot. Second attempt and I receive the error message: The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'mail.kpunet.net', Server: 'mail.kpunet.net', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E. I attempted to restore and was unable to do so.... this is very frustrating and I'm not really seeing a solution at MS or AV sites or here.... Remove Norton's latest update. Better yet, remove Norton and don't replace it with McAfee. AVG and Avast are both free for individuals. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM http://www.fjsmjs.com |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Thanks, this did work, for now at least. I disabled Norton while installing
the updates and will do this from now on until problems arise. I will have to contact my brother who is a CISSP and inquire about security software. He's not a fan of all the problems assiciated with Microsoft and runs Linux. Has been trying to get me to switch over for years, but I'm not that big of a geek. Can't really justify putting Norton down since this is the first problem I've ever had any problems in the 10 years I've used the program, but then I'm not a software guru either. Just out there learning like everyone else. I'll mention Avast and NOG to my bro. Thanks for the help! "Bruce Hagen" wrote: The first thing I would do is remove the updates via Add/Remove Programs, (check the Show Updates box at the top), then, download them again with your AV *OFF*. It often prevents a clean install of any download, be it a patch, or a program. That said, I must reiterate that Norton has not worked well, and has caused many problems with OE for years. Even if you had Norton for a long time, a problem can crop up at any time. I do not know if removing Norton will fix your problem, but I sure would try. If you can find one OE MVP that would suggest using Norton, I will pay for your subscription for a year. I would suggest either Avast, (freeware), or NOD32, (not free). In the case of Avast, choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange. Avast: http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html NOD32: http://www.eset.com/ To remove Norton completely: Commonly used Symantec tools: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05103109480139 Using the Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 Removing NAV 2003 and earlier using Rnav2003.exe. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01092114452606 Symantec NIS, NAV and NSW 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm Symantec NIS, Norton Antispam, and NPF 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem1.htm And if necessary: http://www.ccleaner.com/ -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Carole" wrote in message ... Here's a post I copied off of Symantec's STN forum. Though not the same problem, there seems to be definite compatibility issue with the recent security patches. Uninstalling them didn't work for me, so that's why I had to opt in doing a System Restore. Here's the post from Symantec: Since last week when I installed the April Updates on my Windows 2003 backup server, my backup performance became really slow. Backup-to-disk jobs took twice as much time as before and even the duplicate jobs to tape where way slower than before. After a few days of diagnosis I uninstalled the April Updates 930178, 931784 and 932168 yesterday. The tonight job now was as fast as before. Just to let you guys know if you stepped in the same situation. My backup server is a HP DL380 G4 with a MSA20 disk array and a Dell PowerVault 132T SDLT library attached for backup-to-disk-to-tape strategy. Greetings, Valentin Zovko "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
Sorry, I meant NOD. Getting tired and frustrated from all of this.
"Carole" wrote: Thanks, this did work, for now at least. I disabled Norton while installing the updates and will do this from now on until problems arise. I will have to contact my brother who is a CISSP and inquire about security software. He's not a fan of all the problems assiciated with Microsoft and runs Linux. Has been trying to get me to switch over for years, but I'm not that big of a geek. Can't really justify putting Norton down since this is the first problem I've ever had any problems in the 10 years I've used the program, but then I'm not a software guru either. Just out there learning like everyone else. I'll mention Avast and NOG to my bro. Thanks for the help! "Bruce Hagen" wrote: The first thing I would do is remove the updates via Add/Remove Programs, (check the Show Updates box at the top), then, download them again with your AV *OFF*. It often prevents a clean install of any download, be it a patch, or a program. That said, I must reiterate that Norton has not worked well, and has caused many problems with OE for years. Even if you had Norton for a long time, a problem can crop up at any time. I do not know if removing Norton will fix your problem, but I sure would try. If you can find one OE MVP that would suggest using Norton, I will pay for your subscription for a year. I would suggest either Avast, (freeware), or NOD32, (not free). In the case of Avast, choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange. Avast: http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html NOD32: http://www.eset.com/ To remove Norton completely: Commonly used Symantec tools: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05103109480139 Using the Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 Removing NAV 2003 and earlier using Rnav2003.exe. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01092114452606 Symantec NIS, NAV and NSW 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm Symantec NIS, Norton Antispam, and NPF 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem1.htm And if necessary: http://www.ccleaner.com/ -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Carole" wrote in message ... Here's a post I copied off of Symantec's STN forum. Though not the same problem, there seems to be definite compatibility issue with the recent security patches. Uninstalling them didn't work for me, so that's why I had to opt in doing a System Restore. Here's the post from Symantec: Since last week when I installed the April Updates on my Windows 2003 backup server, my backup performance became really slow. Backup-to-disk jobs took twice as much time as before and even the duplicate jobs to tape where way slower than before. After a few days of diagnosis I uninstalled the April Updates 930178, 931784 and 932168 yesterday. The tonight job now was as fast as before. Just to let you guys know if you stepped in the same situation. My backup server is a HP DL380 G4 with a MSA20 disk array and a Dell PowerVault 132T SDLT library attached for backup-to-disk-to-tape strategy. Greetings, Valentin Zovko "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM mail just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
Error 10061, 0x800ccc0e, bug?
I'm glad to see some progress has been made. I /think/ I mentioned somewhere
in this thread, (maybe not), that many people use Norton without incident, and some use it for quite some time, (like yourself), and all of a sudden, problems crop up. As far as updates go, it's not really good for me to tell people not to use automatic updates, because many people go for years without updating. My preference is to notify, but not install. That gives me the opportunity to turn off my AV before I download an update. (Note that Notify only does so for Critical updates). It is also good to remember that 99% of the time, updates are issued on the second Tuesday of the month. I remember so many problems with OE when SP2 was released about 3 years ago. Almost everyone that had a problem had SP2 downloaded automatically, or with their AV on. And most every problem was resolved by uninstalling SP2 and downloading it again with the AV off. FWIW, I used AVG (free) for a few years. Not a bad program, but I recently switched to Avast, also freeware. I also use only the Windows firewall and a router that also has firewall properties. I have never had any problems with anything getting on my machine. Keep us posted. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Carole" wrote in message ... Thanks, this did work, for now at least. I disabled Norton while installing the updates and will do this from now on until problems arise. I will have to contact my brother who is a CISSP and inquire about security software. He's not a fan of all the problems assiciated with Microsoft and runs Linux. Has been trying to get me to switch over for years, but I'm not that big of a geek. Can't really justify putting Norton down since this is the first problem I've ever had any problems in the 10 years I've used the program, but then I'm not a software guru either. Just out there learning like everyone else. I'll mention Avast and NOG to my bro. Thanks for the help! "Bruce Hagen" wrote: The first thing I would do is remove the updates via Add/Remove Programs, (check the Show Updates box at the top), then, download them again with your AV *OFF*. It often prevents a clean install of any download, be it a patch, or a program. That said, I must reiterate that Norton has not worked well, and has caused many problems with OE for years. Even if you had Norton for a long time, a problem can crop up at any time. I do not know if removing Norton will fix your problem, but I sure would try. If you can find one OE MVP that would suggest using Norton, I will pay for your subscription for a year. I would suggest either Avast, (freeware), or NOD32, (not free). In the case of Avast, choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange. Avast: http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html NOD32: http://www.eset.com/ To remove Norton completely: Commonly used Symantec tools: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05103109480139 Using the Norton Removal Tool: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 Removing NAV 2003 and earlier using Rnav2003.exe. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01092114452606 Symantec NIS, NAV and NSW 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm Symantec NIS, Norton Antispam, and NPF 2004, 2005, 2006 removal http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem1.htm And if necessary: http://www.ccleaner.com/ -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Carole" wrote in message ... Here's a post I copied off of Symantec's STN forum. Though not the same problem, there seems to be definite compatibility issue with the recent security patches. Uninstalling them didn't work for me, so that's why I had to opt in doing a System Restore. Here's the post from Symantec: Since last week when I installed the April Updates on my Windows 2003 backup server, my backup performance became really slow. Backup-to-disk jobs took twice as much time as before and even the duplicate jobs to tape where way slower than before. After a few days of diagnosis I uninstalled the April Updates 930178, 931784 and 932168 yesterday. The tonight job now was as fast as before. Just to let you guys know if you stepped in the same situation. My backup server is a HP DL380 G4 with a MSA20 disk array and a Dell PowerVault 132T SDLT library attached for backup-to-disk-to-tape strategy. Greetings, Valentin Zovko "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Still trying to figure this one out. It may not be your problem, but if you are using a Norton firewall, disable XP's. More than one firewall can cause problems regardless of the manufacturer. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Kimmo" wrote in message ... I personally consider it is not OE that is causing the problem. Like I told you, server connection error happens even with using just TELNET using port 110 (see my instruction in earlier response). You don't need OE to get the connection error. Try yourself. Of course the error message is different with telnet. I have wideband connection (ADSL) and even tried to disconnecting the ADSL modem upon second XP login session was still active. After the ADSL had come back alive and obviously with new IP address from ISP, the error still remained. Even if I too consider the bug being in XP patches, I wonder why this problem has not become a big issue among XP users? I mean, I had to hard to find first similar user reports of this problem. And this thread was the only one that full matches my problem - well there might have been more, but as this the microsoft community, I thought this is the best forum.. Did I said, that I use different email service providers: one for incoming POP3 and one for outgoing mail SMTP. Error applies both, so it is not problem of the service provider. It is not the disconnection problem either, because I tried OE's option 'disconnect connection after send/receive'. Hopefully solution will be found. I lack knowledge to perform restore operation like Carole had done. I am not an expert like you others seem to be, but can some other program take control or re-assing a port 110/25 and therefore the server is not responding? Nevertheless, if port re-assignment would take place, I don't see any data transfer in NIS2005 logs to one way or another in no ports. It's like no data transfer would take place when the error occurs. Some other software is blocking POP3 before it reaches NIS2005? XP's own firewall perhaps? In my XP securitycontrol settings, NIS2005 should be in charge of firewall operations. This maybe a coincidence, but I consider starting to receive SPAM just around same time as this error started to occur. I had not ever received any SPAM before that. I don't have exact dates, though pure guessing. I have XP HOME edition by the way, if it is important to know. br: Kimmo |
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For those who are just joining this thread, I don’t know how long Bruce’s fix will keep. We’ll just have to wait until the next Patch Tuesday. I’m glad he reminded me that most software companies advise to uninstall your AV before downloading programs. It didn’t occur to me that this would be necessary with Windows Update, but now it all makes a lot of sense. Haven’t got a clue as to why it took so long for the problem to occur??? I’ve been running Norton since Windows Update began. The notion that the software giant does not back down to third party problems is not necessarily true. Just last year, MS security patches caused major conflicts with HP users, and MS not only provided a workaround but also posted a security response. The work around was not user friendly involving editing registry files. According to the WP article I posted earlier, users had to resort to doing a System Restore. Does this sound familiar? MS also released fixes for Realtek in response to problems with SP2. So, I’m not going to say that Norton is “all” to blame here given the history of problems with MS security patches. How nice for MS if we all got rid of Norton, and I’m sure that there will be plenty of you out there that will. After all, many IT professionals have chosen Linux over Windows for the same reason. It appears that Norton has stepped up to the problem by offering a free upgrade to NIS 2007 for users who own NIS 2006. It has been reported that this version is not having any compatibility issues with IE, OE, or security patches. I’ve contacted them to see if they are going to offer the same upgrade to NIS 2005 owners that have a current LiveUpdate subscription. Whatever you do folks, know that your reasoning behind choosing Norton was probably the same for choosing IE as you web browser. My subscription to Norton doesn’t expire until 2/08, so I’ll be keeping it until then and have to work around any problems that might pop up with the next security patch. Oh boy, I can’t wait! Best luck to all that are experiencing this frustrating problem!! |
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Found the Realtek article if anyone's interested. There is a fix available. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130518/article.html |
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I've had exactely the same problem as you've been describing (including slow
running backups). I run Windows XP Home SP2, IE 7, OE 6 & Systemworks 2006. I have narrowed the problem down to when I used "Liveupdate" to upgrade to "Symantec Network Driver" Version 6.0.6.604( I used Goback Safe mode to eliminate all the other upgrades during liveupdate): Symantec technical support weren't brilliant. They gave me 3 options to try and the only one that appered to work was turning off e-mail scanning! I have responded to this and am awaiting their reply! Meanwhile, I'll try to uninstall the April ms updates and see if it solves my problem as well. "Carole" wrote: Found the Realtek article if anyone's interested. There is a fix available. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130518/article.html |
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Everybody suggests turning off email scanning, for a very large body of
evidence that shows it times out mail servers and provides no added protections, -- - Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://www.safer-networking.org AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/ Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Bennegar" wrote in message ... I've had exactely the same problem as you've been describing (including slow running backups). I run Windows XP Home SP2, IE 7, OE 6 & Systemworks 2006. I have narrowed the problem down to when I used "Liveupdate" to upgrade to "Symantec Network Driver" Version 6.0.6.604( I used Goback Safe mode to eliminate all the other upgrades during liveupdate): Symantec technical support weren't brilliant. They gave me 3 options to try and the only one that appered to work was turning off e-mail scanning! I have responded to this and am awaiting their reply! Meanwhile, I'll try to uninstall the April ms updates and see if it solves my problem as well. "Carole" wrote: Found the Realtek article if anyone's interested. There is a fix available. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130518/article.html |
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"Bennegar" wrote in message
... I've had exactely the same problem as you've been describing (including slow running backups). I run Windows XP Home SP2, IE 7, OE 6 & Systemworks 2006. I have narrowed the problem down to when I used "Liveupdate" to upgrade to "Symantec Network Driver" Version 6.0.6.604( I used Goback Safe mode to eliminate all the other upgrades during liveupdate): Symantec technical support weren't brilliant. They gave me 3 options to try and the only one that appered to work was turning off e-mail scanning! I have responded to this and am awaiting their reply! Meanwhile, I'll try to uninstall the April ms updates and see if it solves my problem as well. "Carole" wrote: Email scanning should always be turned off no matter what anti-virus you use. It provides no added protection and messes things up. Even Norton knows this. See: The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express Published: November 18, 2004 By Tom Koch http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx Email scanning slows down Sending and Receiving, sometimes enough that OE times out. Since some of the received messages have large (often virus) attachments, which exasperates the problem. Some Comcast users have found it necessary to totally uninstall Norton and switch to the free AVG with mail scanning off. Norton invented email scanning and here's what they say: "Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions." http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...256c7500723cf0 "...your computer is protected if Auto-Protect is enabled. Auto-Protect scans any incoming files, including email attachments, when the files are saved to your hard drive." http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01100907323806 "NAV provides multiple layers of protection. Email scanning is just one of those layers. Even if you are not running Email Scanning, your computer is protected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments by NAV Auto-Protect. Auto-Protect will scan any incoming files, including email attachments, as they are saved to your hard drive. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions." http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam See also http://help.expedient.com/mailnews/n...ntivirus.shtml So Symantec used to say this often and clearly. The newer stuff doesn't have the statement included as it was considered an embarrassment. If you know anyone who programs for Norton try to get them to talk about it. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM http://www.fjsmjs.com |
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I'm guessing that turning off email scanning didn't work. Right? No one, as
of yet, has report that this solved the error in the first post on this thread (port being blocked). I turned off email scanning when I first installed the program, so I knew that wasn't the culprit. Since I did a System Restore after the uninstalling of the April patches didn't work through Add/Remove Programs. I'm curious if anyone has had any luck with Bruce Hagen's fix. I followed his directions when I went to reinstall the patches that System Restore uninstalled and I'm having no more problems. I also ran LiveUpdate after reinstall and the problem has not come back. I think Norton prevented Windows Update from doing a clean install with the latest secuity patches and the corrupted Update files was causing the problem or the corrupted files were causing a conflict with Norton. "Bennegar" wrote: I've had exactely the same problem as you've been describing (including slow running backups). I run Windows XP Home SP2, IE 7, OE 6 & Systemworks 2006. I have narrowed the problem down to when I used "Liveupdate" to upgrade to "Symantec Network Driver" Version 6.0.6.604( I used Goback Safe mode to eliminate all the other upgrades during liveupdate): Symantec technical support weren't brilliant. They gave me 3 options to try and the only one that appered to work was turning off e-mail scanning! I have responded to this and am awaiting their reply! Meanwhile, I'll try to uninstall the April ms updates and see if it solves my problem as well. "Carole" wrote: Found the Realtek article if anyone's interested. There is a fix available. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130518/article.html |
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"Carole" wrote in message ... You never did tell us what your brother said about this? -- Regards Steve. |
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Here's my brother's response:
Norton has an excellent track record for finding and especially removing viruses. However, I have also found Norton to suck the performance right out of a computer (McAfee is no better). I am running NOD32 (www.eset.com) on some of my lab machines, and it is performing well. I have not used Avast. "mac" wrote: "Carole" wrote in message ... You never did tell us what your brother said about this? -- Regards Steve. |
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Well, everything is still running fine after 5/8 updates. I disabled Norton
this time. Symantec answered me back and said that NIS files got corrupted, but didn’t elaborate as to how they thought this happened. They also said I was not eligible for the free 2007 upgrade offer because I own NIS 2005. A thought occurred to me after I read the below article: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/secur...eleting_1.html If Norton has not previously gotten along with Windows Anti-spyware Beta, then maybe the Malicious Software Removal Tool (downloaded the day after the 4/11 updates) corrupted Norton’s files. Just a thought since it’s a pretty good bet that all these problems appear to be related to the updates. I would imagine it would contain similar data and registry files??? I actually had this Beta installed at one point, but removed it due to articles I read about it being vulnerable to threats of hackers using it to obtain personal information off your computer (specifically banking info). The program also drove me nuts and I do remember having to uninstall and reinstall Norton after I got rid of it. Mike, did you ever fix this problem??? After all you were the first one to start this thread. Also, I didn’t post the article to start any heated debates. I just found it to be very interesting. |
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I've been following this with interest as we have the exact same problem, but
with Outlook 2002 SP3 and Windows 2000 Professional SP4 - i.e. can only sen/receive emails after a re-boot, but not after a logoff or change of user. I have tried using Add/Remove Programs to remove the April updates (KB930178, 931784 & 932168 (931261 didn't apply to W2000)), but this didn't help, and I'm not sure there is a facility to do a system restore on Windows 2000 (does anyone know of a way?). I ran Microsoft Update last night & it came up with 10 priority updates (including the 3 I had just removed), so I switched of AV, as recommended, and installed all of them. None of this has made any difference. Does anyone have any advice on how I can fix this problem on Windows 2000, please? Having to re-boot for each change of user, just to pick up our emails is maddening, to say the least! Thanks in anticipation! "Carole" wrote: Well, everything is still running fine after 5/8 updates. I disabled Norton this time. Symantec answered me back and said that NIS files got corrupted, but didn’t elaborate as to how they thought this happened. They also said I was not eligible for the free 2007 upgrade offer because I own NIS 2005. A thought occurred to me after I read the below article: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/secur...eleting_1.html If Norton has not previously gotten along with Windows Anti-spyware Beta, then maybe the Malicious Software Removal Tool (downloaded the day after the 4/11 updates) corrupted Norton’s files. Just a thought since it’s a pretty good bet that all these problems appear to be related to the updates. I would imagine it would contain similar data and registry files??? I actually had this Beta installed at one point, but removed it due to articles I read about it being vulnerable to threats of hackers using it to obtain personal information off your computer (specifically banking info). The program also drove me nuts and I do remember having to uninstall and reinstall Norton after I got rid of it. Mike, did you ever fix this problem??? After all you were the first one to start this thread. Also, I didn’t post the article to start any heated debates. I just found it to be very interesting. |
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Hello Carole!
Thank you for keeping the discussion alive. I have been following your and others messages every day. The solution you wrote on system restore I haven't tried. I did a system restore some time ago and it ended with a none functioning system. So there is a dilemma. "Carole" wrote: Well, everything is still running fine after 5/8 updates. I disabled Norton this time. Symantec answered me back and said that NIS files got corrupted, but didn’t elaborate as to how they thought this happened. They also said I was not eligible for the free 2007 upgrade offer because I own NIS 2005. A thought occurred to me after I read the below article: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/secur...eleting_1.html If Norton has not previously gotten along with Windows Anti-spyware Beta, then maybe the Malicious Software Removal Tool (downloaded the day after the 4/11 updates) corrupted Norton’s files. Just a thought since it’s a pretty good bet that all these problems appear to be related to the updates. I would imagine it would contain similar data and registry files??? I actually had this Beta installed at one point, but removed it due to articles I read about it being vulnerable to threats of hackers using it to obtain personal information off your computer (specifically banking info). The program also drove me nuts and I do remember having to uninstall and reinstall Norton after I got rid of it. Mike, did you ever fix this problem??? After all you were the first one to start this thread. Also, I didn’t post the article to start any heated debates. I just found it to be very interesting. |
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