Junk mail is horrendous
 

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

View | Sort By | Received, not Subject.

Do you want to get only mail from people in the AB? Change the rule to
Delete it from server, but that is risky.

If you are getting that much spam, I would get a new address and only give
it to friends and trusted sources, like banking, utilities, etc.

Use the old address for untrusted sites, like ordering online, places like
Priceline.com, Lending tree, etc.

For the old address, create two rules.

Rule 1:

Where the To line contains people
Delete it from server
Click on Contains people | Options and change it to Does not contain.

Rule 2:

Where the To line contains people
Delete it from server
Click on Contains people and add *one-at-a-time* every letter, and number,
(0-9), that is /not/ in the address.

Since this is your *throw-away* account used for online ordering, or
unsecure sites, all replier should have your address in the To field,
eliminating any mail addressed to people in the CC or BCC fields, and any
address in the To field that has a letter, or number, not in your address
will be eliminated.

This will not get rid of everything, but it will cut down on spam
significantly.

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is
totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their
deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire
block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the
sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

"ACE" wrote in message
...
I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is
totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their
deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire
block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the
sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

After reading this and your previous thread, a new email address is the only
answer for them?
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...fff751 388b7c


--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS] UK

Junk mail is horrendous
 

Possibly the isp providing the email account has an online filter to only allow mail delivery from those in the address book or other options to move mail to a junk or deleted folder(for autodeletion or holding period for review). Said options are configurable via logon to the email account's isp web mail site.
..winston

"ACE" wrote in message ...
:I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
: However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
: having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
: Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is totally
: unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
: method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their deleted
: file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
: mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
: of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the sun.
: Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.
:
: Thank you very much!
:
: Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

mac wrote:
"ACE" wrote in message
...
I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same
subject. However, I really need to get some type of solution to the
problem we are having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my
parents up with OE. Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of
junk mail. Now, that is totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the
address book method, but really now. All of this junk mail just
goes into their deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this
junk mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The
entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under
the sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

After reading this and your previous thread, a new email address is
the only answer for them?
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...fff751 388b7c

Jumping in here, I think it may be. I have to assume that their present
address is something along the lines of initial-name? If so, that would
account for most of the spam. The address is "dictionariable", or guessable
in other words. The spams they're getting have probably been going out for
months and now it's landingi n their inboxes.

When you format an e-mail username, it should include digits in the middle
of it; not at the end or beginning. Most systems won't accept numbers at
the beginning and spammers "guess" the numbers at the end with counters. So
if for instance, you want to have , instead make it
. THAT becomes much harder to guess. And do NOT
use SS numbers, phone or addresses for the numbers; find something else easy
to remember. I use my old college ID number.
That will get rid of a LOT of the spam.

Two e-mail addresses are almost required in this day of internet treachery.
Three or four are better. Many ISPs offer more than one address. Does
theirs?

My suggestion, if the ISP only porivdes one address, would be to:

Get a new address for their "main" address. This has the downside of having
to notify everyone of their new email address though, so Bruce's advice
might be better if that's an issue. This one would be used for trusted
people; family, close friends, etc.
Then get a free address at Yahoo or one of the many places online that
provide free e-mail. There are hundreds of them so if you go this route you
might want to ask here for reliable ones to go to. I use Yahoo and
sneakemail.com. Use that address for non-trusted people, internet signups,
things like that. If it gets too heavily spammed, you can throw it away and
start over with another new one. It also makes it a lot easier to stand the
spam that often comes with signing up for things online, too since it
doesn't clutter up the "good" inbox.

HTH
Pop`

Junk mail is horrendous
 

I would change their email address to something like:


The username should be generated randomly so that spammers can't
generate all possible addresses.

Also, instruct them not to subscribe to any free Newsletters or buy
online from irreputable vendors!

HTH

ACE wrote:

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

To everyone that has taken the time to help me, thank you very much! The
general concensus is that I should change their e-mail address, so that is
what I am going to do. However, before I do that, I am going to contact
Highstream just to see if they have any ideas.

Once again, THANKS!!!!

ACE

"ANONYMOUS" wrote:

I would change their email address to something like:


The username should be generated randomly so that spammers can't
generate all possible addresses.

Also, instruct them not to subscribe to any free Newsletters or buy
online from irreputable vendors!

HTH

ACE wrote:

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

when talking to them ask why they do not use a black list.







"ACE" wrote in message ...
To everyone that has taken the time to help me, thank you very much! The
general concensus is that I should change their e-mail address, so that is
what I am going to do. However, before I do that, I am going to contact
Highstream just to see if they have any ideas.

Once again, THANKS!!!!

ACE

"ANONYMOUS" wrote:

I would change their email address to something like:


The username should be generated randomly so that spammers can't
generate all possible addresses.

Also, instruct them not to subscribe to any free Newsletters or buy
online from irreputable vendors!

HTH

ACE wrote:

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same subject.
However, I really need to get some type of solution to the problem we are
having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my parents up with OE.
Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of junk mail. Now, that is totally
unacceptable. I did, as suggested, set up a filter using the address book
method, but really now. All of this junk mail just goes into their deleted
file which still needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk
mail, and it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject under the sun.
Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

ANONYMOUS wrote:
I would change their email address to something like:


Digits at the end of a username are still highly dictionariable by software.
Spammers often go the route from 0, 1, 2, up to who knows how high? The
digits should be inside the name, e.g., ddg45fed... for better security.
Much harder to "dictionary". Spammers do the obvious, but not things that
take a lot of time or work.

HTH
Pop`



The username should be generated randomly so that spammers can't
generate all possible addresses.

Also, instruct them not to subscribe to any free Newsletters or buy
online from irreputable vendors!

HTH

ACE wrote:

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same
subject. However, I really need to get some type of solution to the
problem we are having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my
parents up with OE. Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of
junk mail. Now, that is totally unacceptable. I did, as suggested,
set up a filter using the address book method, but really now. All
of this junk mail just goes into their deleted file which still
needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk mail, and
it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject
under the sun. Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can
be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace

Junk mail is horrendous
 

Actually, making the email user name complex does nothing buy make it hard to tell your friend what
your email address is.
Keep the user name simple and easy to say over the phone to friends or important business contacts.
Then send a nasty note to any friend that puts your email address, along with 10 or more other names
in the TO or CC headers. This is where most spammers get their data.
Also get an ISP that filters junk mail. Gmail and Yahoo mail are good, hotmail is not good.

"Poprivet" wrote in message
...
ANONYMOUS wrote:
I would change their email address to something like:


Digits at the end of a username are still highly dictionariable by software. Spammers often go the
route from 0, 1, 2, up to who knows how high? The digits should be inside the name, e.g.,
ddg45fed... for better security. Much harder to "dictionary". Spammers do the obvious, but not
things that take a lot of time or work.

HTH
Pop`



The username should be generated randomly so that spammers can't
generate all possible addresses.

Also, instruct them not to subscribe to any free Newsletters or buy
online from irreputable vendors!

HTH

ACE wrote:

I have been in this discussion group before regarding the same
subject. However, I really need to get some type of solution to the
problem we are having with junk mail. I posted before that I set my
parents up with OE. Just last week, they received 1500 pieces of
junk mail. Now, that is totally unacceptable. I did, as suggested,
set up a filter using the address book method, but really now. All
of this junk mail just goes into their deleted file which still
needs to be perused. I took a look at some of this junk mail, and
it is very strange, at least to my untrained eye. The entire block
of spam was in alphabetical order and it covered every subject
under the sun. Now, please tell me there is a reason and that it can
be fixed.

Thank you very much!

Ace