Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear/see it's working.
Interesting about the 6/25 date, since 6/27 was supposed to be the final date for implementation, though probably close enough since the server/settings change/requirement for many other accounts occurred months ago.

...winston
ms-mvp wlmd

"BPB" wrote in message ...
:I too had the same trouble of incoming mails in to OE stopped - from 6/25
:
: and this change to pop3.live.com and SSL worked just now (7/9)
:
: Thanks
:
:
: "...winston" wrote:
:
: Mae, something doesn't make sense from the later postings..
:
: The op said Msn9 and is using MSn to connect, if true, its an http account. The live.com settings would not be applicable. The reason for PA Bear and I are asking more questions.
:
: There is only one scenario that I am aware of where the live.com settings/server/ssl function with an http account and that was by a single person that had a partnered Qwest account with Msn Premium software installed. Imo, that's an anomaly since no one else could validate it work on a similar Qwest partnered account.
:
: It would be interesting to see if the live.com settings work..though I'm skeptical
: ...winston
:
: "mae" wrote in message ...
: : See if these settings will work:
: : 1. On the Servers Tab,
: : a. Change the Incoming mail (POP3) and Outgoing mail (SMTP) settings to:
: : i. Incoming mail FROM pop3.email.msn.com TO pop3.live.com
: : ii. Outgoing mail FROM smtp.email.msn.com TO smtp.live.com
: : b. Uncheck the "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" box
: : c. Ensure your full e-mail address is included under "Account Name" e.g.
: :
: :
: : 2. On the Advanced Tab,
: : a. Change the port number for Incoming Mail (POP3) from 110 to 995
: : b. Check both the boxes that indicates "This server requires a secure
: : connection (SSL)"
: : --
: : mae
: :
: : "Karen M" wrote in message
: : ...
: : | It looks like a great number of people are having this problem. The
: : | difference I have is I am helping someone who has Windows 98, no anti-virus,
: : | no firewall, the setting for the mail account is correct, she uses a modem.
: : | Her machine isn't the new computers with Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Vista.
: : | None to the problem I read on this site address older version and computer.
: : | I think the problem is more extensive, dose anyone agree. The error message
: : | is " The connection to the server has failed. Account POP3.email.msn.com,
: : | server SMTP.email.msn.com Protrocal: SMTP Port 25, Secure [SSL]: No Socket
: : | #10061, Error number: 0x800ccc0e
: : |
: : | "Karen M" wrote:
: : |
: : | I am trying to assist a senior citizen with her Outlook Express 6 error
: : | proglem. I normally am able to locate the solution to her problem but
: : this
: : | time I am getting somewhat confused by some of my research, Can you tell
: : me
: : | how to get her Outlook Express to send and receive POP3 email in Outlook
: : | Express from MSN Mail. The settings look fine.
: :
:

"...winston" ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
...
Karen,
If she used MSn 9 her account should be an http account, thus not using the
pop3/smtp servers.
The correct server for an http account was posted earlier
Try setting the account up in OE as an http account.
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata
Caution: Since she is running Win98 she is also using OE4 or possible OE5
if IE was updated to IE55sp1(or
similar), OE may attempt to use this incorrect server
: http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp
: You'll have to change it manually.

The pop3.email.msn.com and smtp.email.com servers and ports you
mentioned(110/25), Secure Password Authorization(SPA) are ***no longer
valid*** for legacy pop3 accounts. If she used, MSn Explorer I am extremely
skeptical that the new servers will function(though a few http accounts that
were originally pop3 accounts oddly, possibly an anomaly, still capable of
using the legacy pop3 settings. Those settings were also posted in this
thread by Mae..reposted below.
: : : Mae wrote:
: : : See if these settings will work:
: : : 1. On the Servers Tab,
: : : a. Change the Incoming mail (POP3) and Outgoing mail (SMTP)
settings to:
: : : i. Incoming mail FROM pop3.email.msn.com TO pop3.live.com
: : : ii. Outgoing mail FROM smtp.email.msn.com TO
smtp.live.com
: : : b. Uncheck the "Log on using Secure Password Authentication"
box
: : : c. Ensure your full e-mail address is included under "Account
Name" e.g.
: : :
: : :
: : : 2. On the Advanced Tab,
: : : a. Change the port number for Incoming Mail (POP3) from 110 to
995
: : : b. Check both the boxes that indicates "This server requires a
secure
: : : connection (SSL)"
: : : --

Imo, try the first by setting up a new account in OE as an http account and
see if it works, if it does, then change the settings per Mae's instructions
in the original account. If both work decide which one to use, then remove
the other account. If only one works, remove the account that doesn't work.

The links posted in my prior response were servers for use in Outlook
Express(they are not clickable links to a web site). If you meant other
links besides those and can't connect to the sites using IE or MSn Explorer,
then another issue unrelated to email or Outlook Express is in play.

Let us know how it goes after trying the http or 'new' pop3/smtp setttings.

....winston
MS-MVP WLMD



"Karen M" wrote in message
...
: Hi Winston, I finally was able to get back to my senior citizen friend's
: computer.
: I confirmed:
: She has MSN 9 which used MSN Explorer.
: Her Outlook Express is Outlook Express 6 version 6.xxx
: MSN is her ISP and Outlook Express is her chosen client.
: All her settings are correct. POP3.email.msn.com and SMTP.email.msn.com
: SSL on the Advance Tab is not checked, settings are 25 and 110
: I did notice she does not have a TCP/IP and I don't remember if she had
: anything checked. - like Optain IP Address Automatically - I will have to
: check on this...
: I tried to connect to the sites you indicated but nothing came up. I may
: not have waited long enough but we sat there for awhile talking and
finally
: decided it wasn't coming up.
: I tried adding a new account with the Original settings, and then with the
: POP3.live.com and SMTP.live.com settings and neither worked.
: I was finally able to find MSN Support contact and they advised me to
delete
: the account and then re-enter because it is probably corrupte. That is
one
: thing I didn't do. I always just added an account with the original
account
: still listed. It said to use the POP3.live.com and SMTP.live.com with SSL
: checked. I don't believe that conncection will work so I am going to have
my
: friend use the POP3.email.msn.com and SMTP.email.msn.com first. I will
let
: you know the results.
:

I haven't been able to get back to my senior citizens computer due to my well
went dry. As soon as I can I will try your suggestions again, and then I
will get back to you. Sorry for the delay, but I really appreciate your
help.....

"...winston" wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear/see it's working.
Interesting about the 6/25 date, since 6/27 was supposed to be the final date for implementation, though probably close enough since the server/settings change/requirement for many other accounts occurred months ago.

...winston
ms-mvp wlmd

"BPB" wrote in message ...
:I too had the same trouble of incoming mails in to OE stopped - from 6/25
:
: and this change to pop3.live.com and SSL worked just now (7/9)
:
: Thanks
:
:
: "...winston" wrote:
:
: Mae, something doesn't make sense from the later postings..
:
: The op said Msn9 and is using MSn to connect, if true, its an http account. The live.com settings would not be applicable. The reason for PA Bear and I are asking more questions.
:
: There is only one scenario that I am aware of where the live.com settings/server/ssl function with an http account and that was by a single person that had a partnered Qwest account with Msn Premium software installed. Imo, that's an anomaly since no one else could validate it work on a similar Qwest partnered account.
:
: It would be interesting to see if the live.com settings work..though I'm skeptical
: ...winston
:
: "mae" wrote in message ...
: : See if these settings will work:
: : 1. On the Servers Tab,
: : a. Change the Incoming mail (POP3) and Outgoing mail (SMTP) settings to:
: : i. Incoming mail FROM pop3.email.msn.com TO pop3.live.com
: : ii. Outgoing mail FROM smtp.email.msn.com TO smtp.live.com
: : b. Uncheck the "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" box
: : c. Ensure your full e-mail address is included under "Account Name" e.g.
: :
: :
: : 2. On the Advanced Tab,
: : a. Change the port number for Incoming Mail (POP3) from 110 to 995
: : b. Check both the boxes that indicates "This server requires a secure
: : connection (SSL)"
: : --
: : mae
: :
: : "Karen M" wrote in message
: : ...
: : | It looks like a great number of people are having this problem. The
: : | difference I have is I am helping someone who has Windows 98, no anti-virus,
: : | no firewall, the setting for the mail account is correct, she uses a modem.
: : | Her machine isn't the new computers with Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Vista.
: : | None to the problem I read on this site address older version and computer.
: : | I think the problem is more extensive, dose anyone agree. The error message
: : | is " The connection to the server has failed. Account POP3.email.msn.com,
: : | server SMTP.email.msn.com Protrocal: SMTP Port 25, Secure [SSL]: No Socket
: : | #10061, Error number: 0x800ccc0e
: : |
: : | "Karen M" wrote:
: : |
: : | I am trying to assist a senior citizen with her Outlook Express 6 error
: : | proglem. I normally am able to locate the solution to her problem but
: : this
: : | time I am getting somewhat confused by some of my research, Can you tell
: : me
: : | how to get her Outlook Express to send and receive POP3 email in Outlook
: : | Express from MSN Mail. The settings look fine.
: :
:

Thanks for the update Karen and good luck with the water supply.
--
....winston
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

"Karen M" wrote in message ...
:I haven't been able to get back to my senior citizens computer due to my well
: went dry. As soon as I can I will try your suggestions again, and then I
: will get back to you. Sorry for the delay, but I really appreciate your
: help.....
:
: "...winston" wrote:
:
: Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear/see it's working.
: Interesting about the 6/25 date, since 6/27 was supposed to be the final date for implementation, though probably close enough since the server/settings change/requirement for many other accounts occurred months ago.
:
: ...winston
: ms-mvp wlmd
:
: "BPB" wrote in message ...
: :I too had the same trouble of incoming mails in to OE stopped - from 6/25
: :
: : and this change to pop3.live.com and SSL worked just now (7/9)
: :
: : Thanks
: :
: :
: : "...winston" wrote:
: :
: : Mae, something doesn't make sense from the later postings..
: :
: : The op said Msn9 and is using MSn to connect, if true, its an http account. The live.com settings would not be applicable. The reason for PA Bear and I are asking more questions.
: :
: : There is only one scenario that I am aware of where the live.com settings/server/ssl function with an http account and that was by a single person that had a partnered Qwest account with Msn Premium software installed. Imo, that's an anomaly since no one else could validate it work on a similar Qwest partnered account.
: :
: : It would be interesting to see if the live.com settings work..though I'm skeptical
: : ...winston
: :
: : "mae" wrote in message ...
: : : See if these settings will work:
: : : 1. On the Servers Tab,
: : : a. Change the Incoming mail (POP3) and Outgoing mail (SMTP) settings to:
: : : i. Incoming mail FROM pop3.email.msn.com TO pop3.live.com
: : : ii. Outgoing mail FROM smtp.email.msn.com TO smtp.live.com
: : : b. Uncheck the "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" box
: : : c. Ensure your full e-mail address is included under "Account Name" e.g.
: : :
: : :
: : : 2. On the Advanced Tab,
: : : a. Change the port number for Incoming Mail (POP3) from 110 to 995
: : : b. Check both the boxes that indicates "This server requires a secure
: : : connection (SSL)"
: : : --
: : : mae
: : :
: : : "Karen M" wrote in message
: : : ...
: : : | It looks like a great number of people are having this problem. The
: : : | difference I have is I am helping someone who has Windows 98, no anti-virus,
: : : | no firewall, the setting for the mail account is correct, she uses a modem.
: : : | Her machine isn't the new computers with Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Vista.
: : : | None to the problem I read on this site address older version and computer.
: : : | I think the problem is more extensive, dose anyone agree. The error message
: : : | is " The connection to the server has failed. Account POP3.email.msn.com,
: : : | server SMTP.email.msn.com Protrocal: SMTP Port 25, Secure [SSL]: No Socket
: : : | #10061, Error number: 0x800ccc0e
: : : |
: : : | "Karen M" wrote:
: : : |
: : : | I am trying to assist a senior citizen with her Outlook Express 6 error
: : : | proglem. I normally am able to locate the solution to her problem but
: : : this
: : : | time I am getting somewhat confused by some of my research, Can you tell
: : : me
: : : | how to get her Outlook Express to send and receive POP3 email in Outlook
: : : | Express from MSN Mail. The settings look fine.
: : :
: :
: