computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for *.dbx* folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

When you see the compact option, and select OK, and never touch anything
until
it has completed. A power change can cause you to lose mail also.

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tool, (if the messages are still there):

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And this is a very good option for the futu

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.


A general warning:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing
mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for *.dbx*
folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

Thanks----
I might be making progress. I found the folder and copied it to my desktop.
While it looks like most of the folders have things in them, the computer
can't make a file association (the Windows icon appears asking me which
program to use to open them). The folders that weren't eliminated (sent
file) easily imported, but the others, which, as I said, look full, didn't.
Any ideas?

David


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

When you see the compact option, and select OK, and never touch anything
until
it has completed. A power change can cause you to lose mail also.

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tool, (if the messages are still there):

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And this is a very good option for the futu

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.


A general warning:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing
mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for *.dbx*
folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

You can only read the mail in OE. Try this for one of the folders. If it
works, you can do all the rest at one time.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop. Open
OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your
desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do
this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag
the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click
Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...

Thanks----
I might be making progress. I found the folder and copied it to my
desktop.
While it looks like most of the folders have things in them, the computer
can't make a file association (the Windows icon appears asking me which
program to use to open them). The folders that weren't eliminated (sent
file) easily imported, but the others, which, as I said, look full,
didn't.
Any ideas?

David


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

When you see the compact option, and select OK, and never touch anything
until
it has completed. A power change can cause you to lose mail also.

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tool, (if the messages are still there):

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And this is a very good option for the futu

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.


A general warning:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing
mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for *.dbx*
folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It
doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

Bruce,
Thanks again in advance.
I tried it, but the folder remained empty. I copied my (disappeared) INBOX,
which was 16K, changed the name to Copy of INBOX and created a folder in OE6
called Copy of Inbox. I may have screwed things up, however, because,
yesterday, when I found the folders and couldn't open them up (no file
association), I tried with Internet Explorer. It then changed the file
association on the all of the dbx. files to IE. Does this matter, and if so,
how can I change the association before copying the file as you recommended?
David



Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...

Thanks----
I might be making progress. I found the folder and copied it to my
desktop.
While it looks like most of the folders have things in them, the computer
can't make a file association (the Windows icon appears asking me which
program to use to open them). The folders that weren't eliminated (sent
file) easily imported, but the others, which, as I said, look full,
didn't.
Any ideas?

David


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

When you see the compact option, and select OK, and never touch anything
until
it has completed. A power change can cause you to lose mail also.

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tool, (if the messages are still there):

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And this is a very good option for the futu

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.


A general warning:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing
mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for *.dbx*
folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It
doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

Did you put a message in the Copy of Inbox in OE before you dragged the dbx
file to it? It won't work if you don't. From my post, ***You must do
this***.

16K as in 16KB? That's a VERY empty folder.

I honestly don't know the answer to your file association question. Let's
hope someone jumps in this thread. It's getting way above my pay grade.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
Thanks again in advance.
I tried it, but the folder remained empty. I copied my (disappeared)
INBOX,
which was 16K, changed the name to Copy of INBOX and created a folder in
OE6
called Copy of Inbox. I may have screwed things up, however, because,
yesterday, when I found the folders and couldn't open them up (no file
association), I tried with Internet Explorer. It then changed the file
association on the all of the dbx. files to IE. Does this matter, and if
so,
how can I change the association before copying the file as you
recommended?
David



Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...

Thanks----
I might be making progress. I found the folder and copied it to my
desktop.
While it looks like most of the folders have things in them, the
computer
can't make a file association (the Windows icon appears asking me which
program to use to open them). The folders that weren't eliminated
(sent
file) easily imported, but the others, which, as I said, look full,
didn't.
Any ideas?

David


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

When you see the compact option, and select OK, and never touch
anything
until
it has completed. A power change can cause you to lose mail also.

Why Mail Disappears:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovery tool, (if the messages are still there):

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

And this is a very good option for the futu

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.


A general warning:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing
mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders
as
empty as is feasible.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
All of my emails are lost. Nothing is found when I search for
*.dbx*
folders
and nothing shows up when I pull down Import/Messages/OE6...... It
doesn't
seem to show up anywhere?
Thanks for your help in advance.


David

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

16Mb, not 16 K duh!

the link everyone keeps sending me seems to attached to a program I'll have
to purchase. Am I correct?

david

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

Yes. And your best chance of recovering messages is this one. Unfortunately,
you won't know until you try.

DBXpress is the best chance of recovery when run in disk mode:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

But I'm still not sure about your file association problem.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"David" wrote in message
...
16Mb, not 16 K duh!

the link everyone keeps sending me seems to attached to a program I'll
have
to purchase. Am I correct?

david

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

See he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 for message recovery techniques.

If your folders no longer have messages in them, then your only chance is
DBXpress via its extract from disk mode.

The dbx files have no file association and are not meant to. They do not
open in another program except for OE, and you can't just click on a dbx
file and have OE open it. It has to be part of the message store.

steve

"David" wrote in message
...
16Mb, not 16 K duh!

the link everyone keeps sending me seems to attached to a program I'll
have
to purchase. Am I correct?

david

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

There are many dbx files that would appear to have messages in them, but
when examined are full of zeroes.

There are all types of conditions.

DBXtract is an outdated program that can rescue a number of messages, but
these are limited in scope, as it hasn't been updated for quite some time,
and I don't intend to do so.

DBXpress uses a completely different algorithm for detection than DBXtract
and as such does not require updating as DBXtract did, and it is also much
more accurate that DBXtract in terms of its ability to seek out messages.
And it is the _only_ program I know of that will read the entire hard drive
and pull the messages of it, when they are no longer associated with files.
I specifically designed it to do that, when I saw all the heartache people
have when their messages are gone.

If one has lost messages and wants to ensure the greatest chance of
recovery, then DBXpress is what they should get. Its also much cheaper than
some of these other programs that don't work any better.

steve

"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Steve

"It has to be part of the message store"

By that I think you mean that the dbx file has to be referenced from
within the folders.dbx of a current identity? It being possible to have
more than one store folder.

I was trying to figure out the difference between DBXtract and
DBXpress. Your summary he
http://www.oehelp.com/Default.aspx

make the points about formatted disks. Presumably if not written
over? Also that it can handle larger / more files better. However,
DBXTract would presumably be adequate for a limited
number of modestly sized files except where the disk has been
formatted.

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
See he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 for message recovery techniques.

If your folders no longer have messages in them, then your only chance is
DBXpress via its extract from disk mode.

The dbx files have no file association and are not meant to. They do not
open in another program except for OE, and you can't just click on a dbx
file and have OE open it. It has to be part of the message store.

steve

"David" wrote in message
...
16Mb, not 16 K duh!

the link everyone keeps sending me seems to attached to a program I'll
have
to purchase. Am I correct?

david

computer crashed while OE6 was compacting folders
 

DBXpress also has its own search feature for dbx and dbt files that will
find them on the hard drive regardless of whether or not they are hidden.
DBXtract will only find the files if you browse to the directory, or it
preloads what it finds as the message store in the registry (for each
Identity).

steve

"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Thanks Steve for the explanations.


--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
There are many dbx files that would appear to have messages in them, but
when examined are full of zeroes.

There are all types of conditions.

DBXtract is an outdated program that can rescue a number of messages, but
these are limited in scope, as it hasn't been updated for quite some
time, and I don't intend to do so.

DBXpress uses a completely different algorithm for detection than
DBXtract and as such does not require updating as DBXtract did, and it is
also much more accurate that DBXtract in terms of its ability to seek out
messages. And it is the _only_ program I know of that will read the
entire hard drive and pull the messages of it, when they are no longer
associated with files. I specifically designed it to do that, when I saw
all the heartache people have when their messages are gone.

If one has lost messages and wants to ensure the greatest chance of
recovery, then DBXpress is what they should get. Its also much cheaper
than some of these other programs that don't work any better.

steve

"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Steve

"It has to be part of the message store"

By that I think you mean that the dbx file has to be referenced from
within the folders.dbx of a current identity? It being possible to have
more than one store folder.

I was trying to figure out the difference between DBXtract and
DBXpress. Your summary he
http://www.oehelp.com/Default.aspx

make the points about formatted disks. Presumably if not written
over? Also that it can handle larger / more files better. However,
DBXTract would presumably be adequate for a limited
number of modestly sized files except where the disk has been
formatted.

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
See he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 for message recovery
techniques.

If your folders no longer have messages in them, then your only chance
is
DBXpress via its extract from disk mode.

The dbx files have no file association and are not meant to. They do
not
open in another program except for OE, and you can't just click on a
dbx
file and have OE open it. It has to be part of the message store.

steve

"David" wrote in message
...
16Mb, not 16 K duh!

the link everyone keeps sending me seems to attached to a program I'll
have
to purchase. Am I correct?

david