From time to time I receive an email from someone (not necessarily the same
person) telling me that a message from me was deleted on such and such a
date. The subject is *Not read: the original subject*.

I don't always recognise sending the original message in the first place and
I don't see why I should be notified of the fact that it has been deleted
from the recipient's computer. Is this virus-related or does it happen to
everyone?

Thanks

Rob Graham

"Rob graham" schreef in bericht
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From time to time I receive an email from someone (not necessarily the
same person) telling me that a message from me was deleted on such and
such a date. The subject is *Not read: the original subject*.

I don't always recognise sending the original message in the first place
and I don't see why I should be notified of the fact that it has been
deleted from the recipient's computer. Is this virus-related or does it
happen to everyone?

Thanks

Rob Graham

not by me

yes and yesg

This is frequently caused by either spammers and/or viruses sending email
spoofed as your address, and you are the one who gets the resulting bounces
and returns from the server. I've noticed recently a number of spammers
using 'notify on delete' options, which may help them to verify an address
(they get paid more for verified addresses when they sell their contact
lists)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Rob graham" wrote in message
...
From time to time I receive an email from someone (not necessarily the
same person) telling me that a message from me was deleted on such and
such a date. The subject is *Not read: the original subject*.

I don't always recognise sending the original message in the first place
and I don't see why I should be notified of the fact that it has been
deleted from the recipient's computer. Is this virus-related or does it
happen to everyone?

Thanks

Rob Graham

Yes, I am just agreeing with Noel

If the name in the from line is fake (which spammers do regularly) the poor
old mail server (or in this case the recipients computer) has no way of
knowing that, so it sends the reject or deleted message to the fake address.

Unfortunately spammers scan newsgroups for email addresses, which is why
Microsoft use a "Black Hole" address in the Web interface (You will see some
posts with discussions.microsoft.com or something like that) which accepts
the email and simply trashes it. You can use somedomain.invalid or
example.com too, which avoids choosing a real name by accident and thus
becoming part of the problem !

In future you might want to avoid using a real email address in all
newsgroups, either insert something like REMOVETHIS inserted in the first
part (before the @ sign) or if you don't want any email replies at all just
stick .invalid on the end instead of .com or .net, whatever.

As part of an experiment I have used the same email address in newsgroups
for several years and am now up to 250,000 junk emails per year By
contrast and address I use for work / business gets no spam at all (Probably
shouldn't have said that

See if BT can give you a new email address (Or another one you can keep very
private) and compare for yourself.

Had any snow in the UK yet? I see our forecast for the coming week looks
like going down to -9 on Tuesday, nothing much above 0 at all after today.

Charlie
(From around Coventry, now in Iowa)

"Rob graham" wrote in message
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From time to time I receive an email from someone (not necessarily the
same person) telling me that a message from me was deleted on such and
such a date. The subject is *Not read: the original subject*.

I don't always recognise sending the original message in the first place
and I don't see why I should be notified of the fact that it has been
deleted from the recipient's computer. Is this virus-related or does it
happen to everyone?

Thanks

Rob Graham

usually a response to a virus sent by another infected pc faking your
address as the sender address, removed by server side software and stupidly
bounced back to the wrong person
or the propogation method chosen by some viruses
delete unopened all unsolicited mail

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Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
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http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
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use
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"Rob graham" wrote in message
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From time to time I receive an email from someone (not necessarily the
same
person) telling me that a message from me was deleted on such and such a
date. The subject is *Not read: the original subject*.

I don't always recognise sending the original message in the first place
and
I don't see why I should be notified of the fact that it has been deleted
from the recipient's computer. Is this virus-related or does it happen to
everyone?

Thanks

Rob Graham

The interesting thing is that these Not read messages always come from the
same small group of people.

Rob