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marco kleine-wilke January 15th 05 03:21 PM

Temp Files
 

"Steve Cochran" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however, so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are
deleted when OE is closed.

steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using
the temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus.
Just was wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.
Apparently not.

AK

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I
read a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but
then when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating
that they binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my
computer. I am assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but
maybe not, and maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS
Outlook does not do a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under
local settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp
folder undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp









AK January 13th 06 05:29 PM

Temp Files
 
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they are
in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read a NG
message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then when I go
back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they binarp
graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am assuming that
they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and maybe they are
dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do a dump unless it
is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder undr
that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp



Jim Pickering January 13th 06 07:50 PM

Temp Files
 
Attachments are an integral part of the message. Depending on your
operating system, some of the temp files used for rendering images, etc.,
are not visible. You don't mention the operating system you are using.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they are
in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read a NG
message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then when I
go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they binarp
graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am assuming
that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and maybe they
are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do a dump
unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder undr
that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp



AK January 13th 06 09:20 PM

Temp Files
 

I am using Win Xp
Outlook Express 6

Sorry _ I did not put it more to the top of the message

AK


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Attachments are an integral part of the message. Depending on your
operating system, some of the temp files used for rendering images, etc.,
are not visible. You don't mention the operating system you are using.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read
a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then
when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they
binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am
assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and
maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do
a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder undr
that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp





Jim Pickering January 13th 06 09:44 PM

Temp Files
 
You may have to first visit Control Panel/Folder Options and on the View
tab, enable "show hidden files." Then in Internet Explorer, click
Tools/Options and on the General tab under Settings button, click and then
click the View Files button to see the cookies and graphic files stored
therein. Unless you know the specific name of the file, it may be hard to
find but since they are an integral part of the message itself, you can
always view them by opening the message and any attachments it may have.
That would seem to be the easiest method.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"AK" wrote in message
...

I am using Win Xp
Outlook Express 6

Sorry _ I did not put it more to the top of the message

AK


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Attachments are an integral part of the message. Depending on your
operating system, some of the temp files used for rendering images, etc.,
are not visible. You don't mention the operating system you are using.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read
a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then
when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they
binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am
assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and
maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do
a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder
undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp






Michael Santovec January 14th 06 01:47 AM

Temp Files
 
All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I
read a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load
but then when I go back to that message they load very fast,
indicating that they binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere
on my computer. I am assuming that they stay on the system in a temp
file but maybe not, and maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know
that MS Outlook does not do a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under
local settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp
folder undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp




AK January 15th 06 05:52 AM

Temp Files
 
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress. Apparently
not.

AK

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read
a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then
when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they
binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am
assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and
maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do
a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder undr
that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp






Steve Cochran January 15th 06 02:50 PM

Temp Files
 
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when OE
is closed.

steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress. Apparently
not.

AK

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read
a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then
when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they
binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am
assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and
maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do
a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder
undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp







Robert Aldwinckle January 15th 06 04:35 PM

Temp Files
 
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.


Robert Aldwinckle
---



steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.


....



Ron Sommer January 15th 06 07:27 PM

Temp Files
 

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they
all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when
OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.


Robert Aldwinckle
---



Because the Word file was opened from the TIF, isn't the save location the
TIF unless a Save As is done?
--
Ron Sommer



Robert Aldwinckle January 15th 06 10:33 PM

Temp Files
 
"Ron Sommer" wrote in message ...

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message

....
In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.




Because the Word file was opened from the TIF, isn't the save location the
TIF unless a Save As is done?



Yes. Exactly. But the problem is that OE deletes the file when the
message window is closed. My speculation was that if the message
window was closed when Word had the file open, either the delete
would not succeed or the changed file would still be in memory so that
if the user saved it before closing Word or if the user tried to close Word
expecting Word to notify them to save it then either the user would become
aware that the file was no longer there (in the TIF) or they would be saving
it when it would be less susceptible to being deleted (e.g. no longer would be
deleted immediately by OE.)

E.g. then when the user came here moaning about losing all their work
there could actually be a possibility of being able to recover it. eg
BTW how many cycles of automatic backup does Word keep anyway?
Perhaps that would be another source of recovery in the same scenario.


Robert
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Steve Cochran January 16th 06 12:24 PM

Temp Files
 

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they
all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when
OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.


I have my own utility.

The files are only deleted when OE is closed, not when the message is
closed.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.



That is not the case with images. There is a difference between opening a
multipart message and its pieces and opening an attachment with another
program.

steve



Robert Aldwinckle
---



steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using
the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just
was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.


...




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