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Richard in AZ November 15th 07 09:40 PM

Reminder to hang up
 
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.



thiago November 16th 07 12:35 AM

Reminder to hang up
 

"Richard in AZ" escreveu na mensagem
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with
correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry
key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that
disconnect reminder.




Ricky November 16th 07 12:46 AM

Reminder to hang up
 
I'm not sure if this is what you want but in tools..options..connection tab
there is a check box for 'hang up after send and recieve'..maybe that will
work.

"thiago" 1236334 wrote in message
...

"Richard in AZ" escreveu na mensagem
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with
correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry
key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had
that disconnect reminder.






Richard in AZ November 16th 07 02:35 AM

Reminder to hang up
 
Thanks, but he want to stay connected while he does his banking after checking his mail.
Right now I have him start IE and then use the tool bar link for mail.
But I still hear from his wife about him leaving the phone connected after he leaves.
Of course he did close OE and IE.

"Ricky" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if this is what you want but in tools..options..connection tab there is a check box
for 'hang up after send and recieve'..maybe that will work.

"thiago" 1236334 wrote in message ...

"Richard in AZ" escreveu na mensagem
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.








Ron Sommer November 16th 07 04:42 AM

Reminder to hang up
 
He needs to look in Task Manager to see if msimn is still running.
Does he have the connection icon (two monitors) in the icon bar?
--
Ronald Sommer

"Richard in AZ" wrote in message
...
Thanks, but he want to stay connected while he does his banking after
checking his mail.
Right now I have him start IE and then use the tool bar link for mail.
But I still hear from his wife about him leaving the phone connected after
he leaves.
Of course he did close OE and IE.

"Ricky" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if this is what you want but in tools..options..connection
tab there is a check box for 'hang up after send and recieve'..maybe that
will work.

"thiago" 1236334 wrote in message
...

"Richard in AZ" escreveu na mensagem
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no
problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and
with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the
registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had
that disconnect reminder.








Robert Aldwinckle November 16th 07 07:56 AM

Reminder to hang up
 
"Richard in AZ" wrote in message
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.



ExitDisconnect doesn't always work. E.g one example I had was
(apparently) having the Alexa Explorer bar installed (the real one not
just the Related links thing). As soon as I uninstalled Alexa ExitDisconnect
started working again. But by the time I realized that was the cause
I had become so completely used to using the disconnect prompt that OE's
Work Offline command generates that I never actually needed the
ExitDisconnect again. That allowed me to keep windows open and still
hangup conveniently.

The automatic disconnect due to idle timeout feature always worked for me.
The only thing wrong with that is that the UI of its prompt is unfortunately
keyboard aware and its default is Disconnect. Hence, you can accidently
disconnect while typing a D or a Space or when pressing Enter.
Worse, that can happen even though you haven't seen the prompt!
Otherwise the combination of both the OE Work Offline hangup prompt
and a reasonable idle timeout setting is what I would recommend instead of
worrying about the ExitDisconnect feature not working.

Getting DSL is the ultimate solution to making the telephone line available
but other options may be available from the phone company. E.g. some
services exploit call waiting, some even exploit call forwarding, and if your
phone company is your ISP there is even software which can effect a similar
service without resorting to either of those other subscriber options.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---



Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM November 16th 07 04:11 PM

Reminder to hang up
 
"Richard in AZ" wrote in message
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with
correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry
key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that
disconnect reminder.


In OE click Tools | Options | Connection | Change
Highlight the dialup connection he uses and click Settings.
Click Advanced.
Check the box to Disconnect when a connection may no longer be needed.

Note: Windows will not give the disconnect message if it thinks any program
is using the Internet.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email


Richard in AZ November 17th 07 03:03 AM

Reminder to hang up
 
Yes, the icons are there. That is how he does the disconnect (right-mouse click and choose
disconnect)

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
He needs to look in Task Manager to see if msimn is still running.
Does he have the connection icon (two monitors) in the icon bar?
--
Ronald Sommer

"Richard in AZ" wrote in message ...
Thanks, but he want to stay connected while he does his banking after checking his mail.
Right now I have him start IE and then use the tool bar link for mail.
But I still hear from his wife about him leaving the phone connected after he leaves.
Of course he did close OE and IE.

"Ricky" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if this is what you want but in tools..options..connection tab there is a check box
for 'hang up after send and recieve'..maybe that will work.

"thiago" 1236334 wrote in message ...

"Richard in AZ" escreveu na mensagem
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect
reminder.










Richard in AZ November 17th 07 03:05 AM

Reminder to hang up
 

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Richard in AZ" wrote in message
...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.



ExitDisconnect doesn't always work. E.g one example I had was
(apparently) having the Alexa Explorer bar installed (the real one not
just the Related links thing). As soon as I uninstalled Alexa ExitDisconnect
started working again. But by the time I realized that was the cause
I had become so completely used to using the disconnect prompt that OE's
Work Offline command generates that I never actually needed the
ExitDisconnect again. That allowed me to keep windows open and still
hangup conveniently.

The automatic disconnect due to idle timeout feature always worked for me.
The only thing wrong with that is that the UI of its prompt is unfortunately
keyboard aware and its default is Disconnect. Hence, you can accidently
disconnect while typing a D or a Space or when pressing Enter.
Worse, that can happen even though you haven't seen the prompt!
Otherwise the combination of both the OE Work Offline hangup prompt
and a reasonable idle timeout setting is what I would recommend instead of
worrying about the ExitDisconnect feature not working.

Getting DSL is the ultimate solution to making the telephone line available
but other options may be available from the phone company. E.g. some
services exploit call waiting, some even exploit call forwarding, and if your
phone company is your ISP there is even software which can effect a similar
service without resorting to either of those other subscriber options.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

DSL is not available at his home (retirement village of factory homes)
They also do not permit wireless ISPs to mount the antenna on the homes.
Money is a problem for a second line.



Richard in AZ November 17th 07 03:09 AM

Reminder to hang up
 

"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Richard in AZ" wrote in message ...
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.


In OE click Tools | Options | Connection | Change
Highlight the dialup connection he uses and click Settings.
Click Advanced.
Check the box to Disconnect when a connection may no longer be needed.

Note: Windows will not give the disconnect message if it thinks any program is using the
Internet.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email

Thanks Frank, but I have done that many times. It just does not work if dials using OE first.




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