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Karen F February 11th 08 10:28 PM

blocking an e-mail address
 
How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back to
them. Thanks.


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Karen



Bruce Hagen February 11th 08 10:50 PM

blocking an e-mail address
 
Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to bounce. If it
is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a loop being bounced back to
you, and if the address is real, then all you accomplished was to verify
your address is valid.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
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How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back to
them. Thanks.


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Karen



Karen F February 12th 08 12:36 AM

blocking an e-mail address
 
Thanks. I know it's a good address and I prefer to have it bounce back to
the sender. Can I do that?


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to bounce. If
it is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a loop being bounced back
to you, and if the address is real, then all you accomplished was to
verify your address is valid.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
...
How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back to
them. Thanks.


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Karen





Bruce Hagen February 12th 08 12:45 AM

blocking an e-mail address
 
Mailwasher:
http://www.mailwasher.net/home
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
...
Thanks. I know it's a good address and I prefer to have it bounce back
to the sender. Can I do that?


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to bounce. If
it is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a loop being bounced
back to you, and if the address is real, then all you accomplished was to
verify your address is valid.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
...
How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back
to them. Thanks.


--
Karen






Karen F February 12th 08 01:07 AM

blocking an e-mail address
 
Thanks. I'll give it a try.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Mailwasher:
http://www.mailwasher.net/home
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
...
Thanks. I know it's a good address and I prefer to have it bounce back
to the sender. Can I do that?


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to bounce.
If it is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a loop being bounced
back to you, and if the address is real, then all you accomplished was
to verify your address is valid.

How to set up OE Message Rules:
http://www.oeupdates.com/outlook-exp...lock-spam.html

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/Email/O...tlook_Express/

http://www.jackieswebworks.com/outlo...ss%20notes.htm

Some Message Rule Ideas:
http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm

Some tips:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm

Controlling Junk Mail in Outlook Express:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/.../junkmail.mspx

Message Rules not working?:
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Karen F" wrote in message
...
How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back
to them. Thanks.


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Karen








Don Phillipson[_2_] February 12th 08 04:06 PM

blocking an e-mail address
 
"N. Miller" wrote in message
...

How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce

back
to them. Thanks.


Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to

bounce.
If it is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a loop being

bounced
back to you, and if the address is real, then all you accomplished

was
to verify your address is valid.


Those fake bounces impersonate your ISP's
'MAILER-DAEMON', and that generally is a violation of the TOS of your ISP.


Why should anyone suppose this true?

I have a nasty habit of reporting MailWasher bounces as abuse to the ISP

where
they originate. The ISP may just ignore my complaints; but who knows? I

also
put the source IP address in my mail server ACL, which means that future
fake bounces are rejected by my server. Your server, which is used by
MailWasher to send those fake bounces, will then bounce the MW bounce

right
back at the sender.


Perhaps N. Miller employs a nonstandard configuration.
In several years of bouncing bogus emails via Mailwasher
I do not recall a single instance of "a loop being bounced
back to you." (Mailwasher can be configured to bounce
from the ISP server: no logic suggests how this can
confirm "the address is real.")

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Twayne February 13th 08 01:47 AM

blocking an e-mail address
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:07:51 -0500, Karen F wrote:

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...


"Karen F" wrote in message
...


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...


"Karen F" wrote in message
...


How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail
bounce back to them. Thanks.


Make a message rule to Delete it from server. Don't attempt to
bounce. If it is a fake address, your bounce will end up in a
loop being bounced back to you, and if the address is real, then
all you accomplished was to verify your address is valid.


Thanks. I know it's a good address and I prefer to have it
bounce back to the sender. Can I do that?


Mailwasher:


Thanks. I'll give it a try.


I am glad that I am not in your address book. I am sure that you will
reciprocate. I only hope that your victim isn't as testy as I am
about fake bounces from MailWasher. Those fake bounces impersonate
your ISP's 'MAILER-DAEMON', and that generally is a violation of the
TOS of your ISP. I have a nasty habit of reporting MailWasher bounces
as abuse to the ISP where they originate. The ISP may just ignore my
complaints; but who knows? I also put the source IP address in my
mail server ACL, which means that future fake bounces are rejected by
my server. Your server, which is used by MailWasher to send those
fake bounces, will then bounce the MW bounce right back at the sender.


True; so do I, and without bothering to look at them. A "bounce" can
ONLY be accomplished by an ISP at the time the message arrives at the
servers and NEVER at any other time. MW actually creates a NEW e-mail
to use as a phoney "bounce" message and then, to make matters worse,
uses one of the most easily forged fields of an e-mail to choose the
recipient; the From: address. If that mail happened to be a spam, which
99% of them are, then an innocent party was just spammed by MW.
Therefore MW bounces ARE considered as spam, and are readily reportable
as spam to the relevant upstreams and horizontals.
This is a well known problem with MW; it never ceases to amaze me how
almost competant they are with other parts of the program, especially
using the block lists, and yet it's brain dead about what a bounce is,
and how it can not possibly be done by MW, in addition to being designed
to used forged address fields. They are well aware of the problem, have
been for years, and yet refuse to either correct the code or at least
explain that what they are doing is not really bouncing an e-mail, but
instead creating a new e-mail and sending it to a likely forged address.

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Regards,

PopRivet

Nope, not going to Vista. Why?
Simple: It offers me nothing I need nor
even want that I don't already have.
So, why switch? NOT gonna happen.



ELAINE March 26th 08 03:12 PM

blocking an e-mail address
 

"Karen F" escreveu na mensagem
...
How can I block someone's e-mail address and have the mail bounce back to
them. Thanks.


--
Karen






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