I understand, thanks. Sorry about the terminology, I was brought up on a "paper" system, when a "file" was in a "filing cabinet", and the papers in it made up a "file"---- as in "bring in the Hagen file, we have to discuss it". now, the papers or documents are the files, and the collection of them is called the folder. I can adapt though!
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Well, you need to compact from time to time. The space used by deleted messages remains until you do. When you say moving files to a saved file, do you mean individual messages to a saved *Folder*, or dragging a folder so it is a subfolder of another? The latter is fine because subfolders have their own dbx files. But if you refer to moving messages to one folder, that's where you want to be careful about the size. Create a Saved Folder 1, and Saved Folder 2, etc. if any become too large.
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Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message ...
Oh, that was for everything in that identity, all the folders, and I have 42 and none of them are overly large! So it sounds like I may be ok for now.
Which makes me a bit suspicious however, as I asked a question some time ago about individual files that were disappearing when I moved them over to a saved file, and I thought the answer was that the folder was full, and needed to be reduced, either by deletion of files , or compacting.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Was that 176 MB for the entire identity, or one folder? Each user created folder is safe at 100MB, and you can have many.

Nope. Think DBX + Temporary (i.e., while [Automatic] compacting is going
on).

Bruce Hagen wrote:
DBT's probably are from another period.

Poor choice of words on my part. I simply meant they were files for folders
that were lost long ago. Since the OP said there were DBXs not seen since
2002, I figured these were probably older than that.

B.

Well, then there' /that/, too. VBEG

Bruce Hagen wrote:
Poor choice of words on my part. I simply meant they were files for
folders that were lost long ago. Since the OP said there were DBXs not
seen since 2002, I figured these were probably older than that.

B.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Nope. Think DBX + Temporary (i.e., while [Automatic] compacting is
going on).

Bruce Hagen wrote:
DBT's probably are from another period.

Don't go erasing things until you back them up first. You don't want to get too carried away and delete the wrong thing and then post back and ask how to undo what you just did. G

steve

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
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Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/

We tend to recommend programs he
http://www.oehelp.com/

Less expensive and written by a MS-MVP that understands OE.

And DBXpress is the *only* tool that can retrieve messages after compacting
was performed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

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Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
We tend to recommend programs he
http://www.oehelp.com/

Less expensive and written by a MS-MVP that understands OE.

And DBXpress is the *only* tool that can retrieve messages after
compacting was performed.


Just to clarify, DBXpress is the only program that will ignore the file
system and read the hard disk clusters directly. Very often the file is
still there (so recovery of the file is not what is needed), but the
messages in the file are gone, but still on the disk clusters.

So by going directly to the disk clusters, one can often recover the
messages that are no longer associated with files. If you take a file and
shrink it by 50% (due to the compaction), then trying to recover the file is
not going to get back what was shrunk from it.

I don't remember the original issue here, as its not quoted, but if the
issue is loss of a single file, then yes, maybe a file recovery program to
unerase may work, but if it involves loss of messages from a file, and the
file still exists, then a file recovery or message recovery program that
works only on the file will be of no use.

cheers,

steve



--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/