Saved file disappeared
 

While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the entire
destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files, looked in
the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

Were you moving files, or folders in the folder tree?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files,
looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

Can you clarify exactly what you mean? Do you mean messages? What files?
How did you move them?

steve

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files,
looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to another
saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the idea of closing
out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag and drop" method. As
I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the destination folder was no
longer there. The files I refer to are really messages I guess, that had
come in as emails, and I had saved to the folder I was working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files,
looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

See if the missing folder still has its dbx file in the message store. If
it's there, you can replace it manually.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop. Open
OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your
desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do
this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag
the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click
Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to another
saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the idea of
closing out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag and drop"
method. As I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the destination
folder was no longer there. The files I refer to are really messages I
guess, that had come in as emails, and I had saved to the folder I was
working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files,
looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

BINGO! There it is, will all the files intact, it seems. Thank you very,
very, much. This happened to me once before, but after a search, I just
ignored it, and continued on. Any idea how that happened, and how I can
avoid it in the future?
Again, this is much appreciated.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
See if the missing folder still has its dbx file in the message store. If
it's there, you can replace it manually.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop.
Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your
desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do
this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag
the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click
Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to another
saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the idea of
closing out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag and drop"
method. As I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the destination
folder was no longer there. The files I refer to are really messages I
guess, that had come in as emails, and I had saved to the folder I was
working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent files,
looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

You're welcome, Happy. Can't say why it happened for sure. It could have
been accidentally deleted, or a slip of the mouse accidentally dragged it
into Deleted Items.

You've probably seen this before, but:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online in
the Status Bar). FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

In ToolsOptionsMaintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
BINGO! There it is, will all the files intact, it seems. Thank you
very, very, much. This happened to me once before, but after a search, I
just ignored it, and continued on. Any idea how that happened, and how I
can avoid it in the future?
Again, this is much appreciated.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
See if the missing folder still has its dbx file in the message store. If
it's there, you can replace it manually.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop.
Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your
desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do
this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag
the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to
reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click
Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to
another saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the idea
of closing out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag and
drop" method. As I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the
destination folder was no longer there. The files I refer to are really
messages I guess, that had come in as emails, and I had saved to the
folder I was working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent
files, looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

I am not sure what "default OE folders" are. I have created under "saved
folders" a number of folders by topic, by person etc., and transfer ones I
want to save into those.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You're welcome, Happy. Can't say why it happened for sure. It could have
been accidentally deleted, or a slip of the mouse accidentally dragged it
into Deleted Items.

You've probably seen this before, but:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online
in the Status Bar). FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.

In ToolsOptionsMaintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
BINGO! There it is, will all the files intact, it seems. Thank you
very, very, much. This happened to me once before, but after a search, I
just ignored it, and continued on. Any idea how that happened, and how
I can avoid it in the future?
Again, this is much appreciated.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
See if the missing folder still has its dbx file in the message store.
If it's there, you can replace it manually.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop.
Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on
your desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST
do this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and
drag the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked
on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."?
Click Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to
another saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the
idea of closing out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag
and drop" method. As I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the
destination folder was no longer there. The files I refer to are really
messages I guess, that had come in as emails, and I had saved to the
folder I was working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent
files, looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

I just did mine for 1 identity (I have 4, but this is the largest) and it was 176 Mg. I compacted, and it dropped to 157. (I think it prompts me from time to time to time to compact anyway) So now, I guess I should delete some, or back them up, or transfer them...............? And If I need them, will they still be accessible? (I go back regularly to review what people have said on various topics)
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

The folders you create are not default folders. Inbox, Drafts etc. are.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I am not sure what "default OE folders" are. I have created under "saved
folders" a number of folders by topic, by person etc., and transfer ones I
want to save into those.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You're welcome, Happy. Can't say why it happened for sure. It could have
been accidentally deleted, or a slip of the mouse accidentally dragged it
into Deleted Items.

You've probably seen this before, but:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online
in the Status Bar). FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.

In ToolsOptionsMaintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
BINGO! There it is, will all the files intact, it seems. Thank you
very, very, much. This happened to me once before, but after a search,
I just ignored it, and continued on. Any idea how that happened, and
how I can avoid it in the future?
Again, this is much appreciated.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
See if the missing folder still has its dbx file in the message store.
If it's there, you can replace it manually.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put
the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files.
Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows
Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.

In Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file and drag it to the Desktop.
Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on
your desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You
MUST do this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click
Desktop and drag the folder from the Desktop to the OE store folder
that you clicked on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to
overwrite......."? Click Yes.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I was within the OE program itself, with the files in one of my "saved"
folders open. I was reviewing the files, deleting some, taking further
action on some, and relocating some that I wanted to still keep to
another saved folder on the left side of OE (Folders side), with the
idea of closing out the folder I was working in. I was using the "drag
and drop" method. As I dragged and dropped one file, I noticed that the
destination folder was no longer there. The files I refer to are
really messages I guess, that had come in as emails, and I had saved to
the folder I was working on.

"Happy" wrote in message
...
While moving files one at a time from one saved file to another, the
entire destination file disappeared! I looked in all the adjacent
files, looked in the deleted file, no result. Any suggestions?

Saved file disappeared
 

You can create more folders for archiving. Some people create a new identity
for the sole purpose of archiving and import messages to that ID.

No matter what you do, there are a number of ways that messages can be lost,
so backing them up is strongly recommended. You will still see them in your
folders.

Backup and Resto

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message
...
I just did mine for 1 identity (I have 4, but this is the largest) and it
was 176 Mg. I compacted, and it dropped to 157. (I think it prompts me from
time to time to time to compact anyway) So now, I guess I should delete
some, or back them up, or transfer them...............? And If I need them,
will they still be accessible? (I go back regularly to review what people
have said on various topics)
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files
for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location
in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the
location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message
...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders?
If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and
the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the
folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
.. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Was that 176 MB for the entire identity, or one folder? Each user created folder is safe at 100MB, and you can have many.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message ...
I just did mine for 1 identity (I have 4, but this is the largest) and it was 176 Mg. I compacted, and it dropped to 157. (I think it prompts me from time to time to time to compact anyway) So now, I guess I should delete some, or back them up, or transfer them...............? And If I need them, will they still be accessible? (I go back regularly to review what people have said on various topics)
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Uncheck everything in Tools | Options | Maintenance and close OE. Go to the message store and delete any files that are not associated with folders you are using now. *DO NOT* delete Folders.dbx. The Pop3uidl.dbx is a logfile. A new, empty one will be created when you open OE.

It would be smart to backup your messages first.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

When you're done, compact your folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar).
FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Okay, will do that first thing tomorrow. Thank you very much. Is this something I should be doing on a regular basis? If I don't look in here for another four years will it be the same sort of museum of old project emails? Or is there a maintenance setting that clears the gunk automatically? I think maybe the DBT files are folders that crashed at some point and disappeared. I just renamed them to DBX and nothing terrible seems to have happened. What ARE they anyway?

You guys never cease to amaze me....

Linnane



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Uncheck everything in Tools | Options | Maintenance and close OE. Go to the message store and delete any files that are not associated with folders you are using now. *DO NOT* delete Folders.dbx. The Pop3uidl.dbx is a logfile. A new, empty one will be created when you open OE.

It would be smart to backup your messages first.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

When you're done, compact your folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar).
FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
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Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
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"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

DBT's probably are from another period. You can get them back into OE, but if you don't need them, I wouldn't waste the time. If you delete a folder from the folder tree, it will usually remain in the store. You shouldn't have to go in there often, but for my own reasons, I do, so I just put a shortcut on the Desktop. Follow the path in Documents and Settings and when you get to the Outlook Express folder, right click on it | Send To | Desktop (create shortcut).
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MS MVP - Outlook Express
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"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Okay, will do that first thing tomorrow. Thank you very much. Is this something I should be doing on a regular basis? If I don't look in here for another four years will it be the same sort of museum of old project emails? Or is there a maintenance setting that clears the gunk automatically? I think maybe the DBT files are folders that crashed at some point and disappeared. I just renamed them to DBX and nothing terrible seems to have happened. What ARE they anyway?

You guys never cease to amaze me....

Linnane



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Uncheck everything in Tools | Options | Maintenance and close OE. Go to the message store and delete any files that are not associated with folders you are using now. *DO NOT* delete Folders.dbx. The Pop3uidl.dbx is a logfile. A new, empty one will be created when you open OE.

It would be smart to backup your messages first.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

When you're done, compact your folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: FileWork Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar).
FileFolderCompact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed.
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Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
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"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Oh, that was for everything in that identity, all the folders, and I have 42 and none of them are overly large! So it sounds like I may be ok for now.
Which makes me a bit suspicious however, as I asked a question some time ago about individual files that were disappearing when I moved them over to a saved file, and I thought the answer was that the folder was full, and needed to be reduced, either by deletion of files , or compacting.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Was that 176 MB for the entire identity, or one folder? Each user created folder is safe at 100MB, and you can have many.

Saved file disappeared
 

Well, you need to compact from time to time. The space used by deleted messages remains until you do. When you say moving files to a saved file, do you mean individual messages to a saved *Folder*, or dragging a folder so it is a subfolder of another? The latter is fine because subfolders have their own dbx files. But if you refer to moving messages to one folder, that's where you want to be careful about the size. Create a Saved Folder 1, and Saved Folder 2, etc. if any become too large.
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MS MVP - Outlook Express
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"Happy" wrote in message ...
Oh, that was for everything in that identity, all the folders, and I have 42 and none of them are overly large! So it sounds like I may be ok for now.
Which makes me a bit suspicious however, as I asked a question some time ago about individual files that were disappearing when I moved them over to a saved file, and I thought the answer was that the folder was full, and needed to be reduced, either by deletion of files , or compacting.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Was that 176 MB for the entire identity, or one folder? Each user created folder is safe at 100MB, and you can have many.

Saved file disappeared
 

I understand, thanks. Sorry about the terminology, I was brought up on a "paper" system, when a "file" was in a "filing cabinet", and the papers in it made up a "file"---- as in "bring in the Hagen file, we have to discuss it". now, the papers or documents are the files, and the collection of them is called the folder. I can adapt though!
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Well, you need to compact from time to time. The space used by deleted messages remains until you do. When you say moving files to a saved file, do you mean individual messages to a saved *Folder*, or dragging a folder so it is a subfolder of another? The latter is fine because subfolders have their own dbx files. But if you refer to moving messages to one folder, that's where you want to be careful about the size. Create a Saved Folder 1, and Saved Folder 2, etc. if any become too large.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Happy" wrote in message ...
Oh, that was for everything in that identity, all the folders, and I have 42 and none of them are overly large! So it sounds like I may be ok for now.
Which makes me a bit suspicious however, as I asked a question some time ago about individual files that were disappearing when I moved them over to a saved file, and I thought the answer was that the folder was full, and needed to be reduced, either by deletion of files , or compacting.
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
Was that 176 MB for the entire identity, or one folder? Each user created folder is safe at 100MB, and you can have many.

Saved file disappeared
 

Nope. Think DBX + Temporary (i.e., while [Automatic] compacting is going
on).

Bruce Hagen wrote:
DBT's probably are from another period.

Saved file disappeared
 

Poor choice of words on my part. I simply meant they were files for folders
that were lost long ago. Since the OP said there were DBXs not seen since
2002, I figured these were probably older than that.

B.

Saved file disappeared
 

Well, then there' /that/, too. VBEG

Bruce Hagen wrote:
Poor choice of words on my part. I simply meant they were files for
folders that were lost long ago. Since the OP said there were DBXs not
seen since 2002, I figured these were probably older than that.

B.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Nope. Think DBX + Temporary (i.e., while [Automatic] compacting is
going on).

Bruce Hagen wrote:
DBT's probably are from another period.

Saved file disappeared
 

Don't go erasing things until you back them up first. You don't want to get too carried away and delete the wrong thing and then post back and ask how to undo what you just did. G

steve

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Good grief! There are dozens and dozens of DBX folders there for email folders I haven't seen since 2002. And there are things called DBT folders as well which are enormous, and text folders that are "logs" of various newsgroups as well as one text document called a pop3 log that is 3.2 million KBs Can I delete all this stuff if it's not an email folder I'm currently using? What a shocker.

Thank you
Linnane


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
The size is located in the Message Store with the corresponding dbx files for each folder.

ToolsOptionsMaintenanceStore folder will reveal the location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then StartRunCtrl+V will put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WindowsXP, 2K & 3K, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under StartControl PanelFolder
OptionsView.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Linnane" letsnotdothis@cc wrote in message ...
Bruce, Can you please tell me how to tell the size of my message folders? If I am in "Local Folders" all I can see is the number of emails unread and the total number of emails but not the size taken by all the messages in the folder.

Thanks
Linnane

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ...
. Keep user created
folders under 100MB,

Saved file disappeared
 

Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/

Saved file disappeared
 

We tend to recommend programs he
http://www.oehelp.com/

Less expensive and written by a MS-MVP that understands OE.

And DBXpress is the *only* tool that can retrieve messages after compacting
was performed.
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Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/

Saved file disappeared
 

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
We tend to recommend programs he
http://www.oehelp.com/

Less expensive and written by a MS-MVP that understands OE.

And DBXpress is the *only* tool that can retrieve messages after
compacting was performed.


Just to clarify, DBXpress is the only program that will ignore the file
system and read the hard disk clusters directly. Very often the file is
still there (so recovery of the file is not what is needed), but the
messages in the file are gone, but still on the disk clusters.

So by going directly to the disk clusters, one can often recover the
messages that are no longer associated with files. If you take a file and
shrink it by 50% (due to the compaction), then trying to recover the file is
not going to get back what was shrunk from it.

I don't remember the original issue here, as its not quoted, but if the
issue is loss of a single file, then yes, maybe a file recovery program to
unerase may work, but if it involves loss of messages from a file, and the
file still exists, then a file recovery or message recovery program that
works only on the file will be of no use.

cheers,

steve



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wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

the best way to bring back lost files is imho use data recovery tools
such as Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(for pure DOS). These are tuly
mighty utils that yet never failed me and worked simply perfectly. You
should definately try it out.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/