I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so deleted
it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way that I
can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

"Martin C" wrote in message

I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so
deleted it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have
kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way
that I can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

If you have Win2K or higher, DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) _might_ be able to
recover it in disk mode.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
"Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither."

Unfortunately I have Win98SE, so I suppose it is a lost cause. Would
DBExtract be able to retrieve anything from anywhere?
If an email is deleted, is it stored on the disk as a separate file from one
of the DBX files? In other words, could I use my undelete software to try
and find it on the drive?

Martin


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"Martin C" wrote in message

I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so
deleted it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have
kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way
that I can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

If you have Win2K or higher, DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) _might_ be able to
recover it in disk mode.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
"Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither."

If you haven't compacted, and background compacting is not checked, you
*may* be able to retrieve them with either of these tools.

DBXtract:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

DBXpress: {much faster for large files}
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so deleted
it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way that
I
can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately I have Win98SE, so I suppose it is a lost cause. Would
DBExtract be able to retrieve anything from anywhere?
If an email is deleted, is it stored on the disk as a separate file from
one
of the DBX files? In other words, could I use my undelete software to try
and find it on the drive?

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message...
"Martin C" wrote in message
I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so
deleted it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have
kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way
that I can recover this email?

If you have Win2K or higher, DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) _might_ be able to
recover it in disk mode.

Items moved into the Deleted Items folder are not actually deleted. They
have simply been moved to a different folder. Shift+Del or deleting from
the Deleted Items folder changes the status of the record to "Deleted".
Delete-marked items are not displayed but they still exist within the
database. Delete-marked items remain until the database is purged of
delete-marked items; i.e., the delete-marked items are physically removed
from the database by a purge function. For OE, purging is performed when
the database gets compacted (either by you or automatically).

If the delete-marked item has not yet been purged from the database, it is
possible to extract that item but you can't use OE because it is hardwired
to hide delete-marked items. I don't know why Frank said you must be using
Windows 2000, or higher, since the web site
(http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx) for the utility says, "The
program runs in Win9x, WinMe, NT, Windows 2000, WindowsXP, and Windows
Server 2003." That's the statement for DBxtract. Frank mentioned DBxpress
(same software author, same site). There is no mention of which platforms
are supported by DBxpress so the inference is that it supports the same
platforms as DBxtract. http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx does
mention, "requires that the .NET Framework version 1.1" but that can be
installed on Windows 98, ME, NT4, 2000, and XP (see
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...isplayLang=en).

I haven't used DBxtract because it would do little good for me as I
frequently compact the dbx files so the delete-marked items would no longer
be physically present in the database when attempting to extract from there.

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Here's a workaround method of retrieving a message that has been deleted
from the Deleted Items folder:

1. Open Windows Explorer and do a search for the file "Deleted
Items.dbx". There will be a separate dbx file for each OE identity. As a
precaution, make a copy of the file so that the original file won't be
accidentally revised or corrupted.
2. Right-click on the applicable dbx file and choose "Open With..."
Open the file with Notepad.
3. Do a search using Ctrl-F for a word or phrase that was included in the
message, such as who it was from, subject title, etc. If you can't remember
anything, scroll down until you find the message. This may take awhile
depending on the amount of data in the folder.
4. Select the applicable text and copy it to the clipboard using Ctrl-C.
5. Close Notepad and open your word processor (e.g. MS Word or WordPad).
Paste the text using Ctrl-V. Name the file and save it.

The saved message won't be in the original email format, but at least you
will have a record of it.

Goodluck,
Keybored

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so deleted
it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way that
I
can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

That is really pretty useless for the poster to even attempt, as the info in
a DBX file is scattered at random throughout the file in 512 byte segments.
Further, if the Message Store folder has been compacted since the deletion,
the space it occupied has been recovered and the file has been altered to
make recovery more difficult. Some utilities are available to recover
messages from the disk, but they are not free. One of the best is DBXpress
($25) available at www.oehelp.com
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Key Bored" wrote in message
...
Here's a workaround method of retrieving a message that has been deleted
from the Deleted Items folder:

1. Open Windows Explorer and do a search for the file "Deleted
Items.dbx". There will be a separate dbx file for each OE identity. As a
precaution, make a copy of the file so that the original file won't be
accidentally revised or corrupted.
2. Right-click on the applicable dbx file and choose "Open With..."
Open the file with Notepad.
3. Do a search using Ctrl-F for a word or phrase that was included in
the message, such as who it was from, subject title, etc. If you can't
remember anything, scroll down until you find the message. This may take
awhile depending on the amount of data in the folder.
4. Select the applicable text and copy it to the clipboard using
Ctrl-C.
5. Close Notepad and open your word processor (e.g. MS Word or
WordPad). Paste the text using Ctrl-V. Name the file and save it.

The saved message won't be in the original email format, but at least you
will have a record of it.

Goodluck,
Keybored

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so
deleted
it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way that
I
can recover this email?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Martin

DBXpress will work in Win98 and higher OSs in which the .NET 1.1 framework
can be installed.

However, the extract from disk feature of DBXpress will only work in Win2000
and "above" OSs.

When a message is shift-deleted as in the original case, the message would
be marked for deletion and remain in the file from which it was
shift-deleted. If a message is physically deleted from a folder, it is
moved to the deleted items folder. If it is then deleted from there, then
it is marked for deletion, and remains in the deleted items folder. If
either folder is then compacted by OE, then the message that is marked for
deletion is removed from the file.

DBXtract and DBXpress both have a "recover mode" option that will find
Shift-Deleted messages in local folders or deleted messages in the deleted
items folder and recovery what they can. However, when OE marks a message
for deletion, it writes over 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece, so the
messages are only partially recoverable, and attachments that span many
segments are not recoverable at all.

cheers,

steve

"Vanguard" wrote in message
...
"Martin C" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately I have Win98SE, so I suppose it is a lost cause. Would
DBExtract be able to retrieve anything from anywhere?
If an email is deleted, is it stored on the disk as a separate file from
one
of the DBX files? In other words, could I use my undelete software to try
and find it on the drive?

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message...
"Martin C" wrote in message
I recently made a mistake, thinking that an email was junk mail, so
deleted it with the SHIFT DELETE to permanently remove it.
I later found out that this was a mail that I was supposed to have
kept.

As it is obviously not in the Deleted Items folder, is there any way
that I can recover this email?

If you have Win2K or higher, DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) _might_ be able
to
recover it in disk mode.

Items moved into the Deleted Items folder are not actually deleted. They
have simply been moved to a different folder. Shift+Del or deleting from
the Deleted Items folder changes the status of the record to "Deleted".
Delete-marked items are not displayed but they still exist within the
database. Delete-marked items remain until the database is purged of
delete-marked items; i.e., the delete-marked items are physically removed
from the database by a purge function. For OE, purging is performed when
the database gets compacted (either by you or automatically).

If the delete-marked item has not yet been purged from the database, it is
possible to extract that item but you can't use OE because it is hardwired
to hide delete-marked items. I don't know why Frank said you must be
using Windows 2000, or higher, since the web site
(http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx) for the utility says, "The
program runs in Win9x, WinMe, NT, Windows 2000, WindowsXP, and Windows
Server 2003." That's the statement for DBxtract. Frank mentioned
DBxpress (same software author, same site). There is no mention of which
platforms are supported by DBxpress so the inference is that it supports
the same platforms as DBxtract.
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx does mention, "requires that
the .NET Framework version 1.1" but that can be installed on Windows 98,
ME, NT4, 2000, and XP (see
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...isplayLang=en).

I haven't used DBxtract because it would do little good for me as I
frequently compact the dbx files so the delete-marked items would no
longer be physically present in the database when attempting to extract
from there.

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Hi,

If the data was stored in a file then data reocvery soft such as
Active@ Undelete or Uneraser(DOS) should really help you. That is a
mighty tool that never failed me before nor ever corrupted restored
files. I bet that might really solve your problem.

http://www.active-undelete.com/

http://www.uneraser.com/