why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack



"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

No real idea why just 4. But are you certain it is only 4? Is the original
date shown when using Ctrl+F3?
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Jim,

Yes, it just the 4 -- no date shows up using Ctrl+F3

Jack


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
No real idea why just 4. But are you certain it is only 4? Is the original
date shown when using Ctrl+F3?
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Did you originally import those 4 messages from another mail client?

Each mail messages has multiple time stamps. You can see these in File,
Properties, Details.

When you look at the list of messages in Microsoft IE3 Internet Mail or
IE4+ Outlook Express, the Received time is when the message was received
by your ISP's mail server. The server supplies the time. This is the
first (top most) of possibly several "Received:" lines in the message
header. Each mail server that a message passes through adds its own
Received line. These are in reverse order, so that the bottom most one
listed is the first server that received the message from the sender.

When you open or print a message, the time displayed is from the
sender's PC when he wrote the message, not necessarily when he
transmitted it (depends on the mail client). The time comes from his
PC. This is the "Date:" line in the message header.

A Sent Message would not have any Received headers.

Some mail clients don't put in the Date header in saved messages, it's
only inserted as the message is sent to the mail server.

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of
the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack



"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change
the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message
and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the
last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are
kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported
folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but
they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I
see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date
I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Mike,

They were on Win 98 pc with OE 5.5. I had them kept in an OE folder named
Sent 2004. I used OE Freebie Back up or OE Express Back up to get all OE
files onto a Win XP pc with OE 6. Once that was accomplished, I created the
JBS identity and moved them into that identity. This must have been 11 Jan
06. I removed the Main identity.

Yesterday (6 Mar), I imported everything from JBS to identity XYZ 2004. The
folder named Sent 2004 was therefore copied into identity XYZ 2004, and, the
4 files in question then had dates of 6 Mar 06. They are the only one with
crazy dates.


Jack


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you originally import those 4 messages from another mail client?

Each mail messages has multiple time stamps. You can see these in File,
Properties, Details.

When you look at the list of messages in Microsoft IE3 Internet Mail or
IE4+ Outlook Express, the Received time is when the message was received
by your ISP's mail server. The server supplies the time. This is the
first (top most) of possibly several "Received:" lines in the message
header. Each mail server that a message passes through adds its own
Received line. These are in reverse order, so that the bottom most one
listed is the first server that received the message from the sender.

When you open or print a message, the time displayed is from the
sender's PC when he wrote the message, not necessarily when he
transmitted it (depends on the mail client). The time comes from his
PC. This is the "Date:" line in the message header.

A Sent Message would not have any Received headers.

Some mail clients don't put in the Date header in saved messages, it's
only inserted as the message is sent to the mail server.

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of
the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack



"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change
the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message
and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the
last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are
kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported
folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but
they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I
see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date
I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Mike,

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.
I think I sort of know why the 4 emails have no date in the header -- they
were initially a message I inputted on a website, and I copied them or
somehow managed to get a copy into OE for my own record. I guess that
resolves the date anomaly. I was worried something was going wrong.

Thanks,
Jack



"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you originally import those 4 messages from another mail client?

Each mail messages has multiple time stamps. You can see these in File,
Properties, Details.

When you look at the list of messages in Microsoft IE3 Internet Mail or
IE4+ Outlook Express, the Received time is when the message was received
by your ISP's mail server. The server supplies the time. This is the
first (top most) of possibly several "Received:" lines in the message
header. Each mail server that a message passes through adds its own
Received line. These are in reverse order, so that the bottom most one
listed is the first server that received the message from the sender.

When you open or print a message, the time displayed is from the
sender's PC when he wrote the message, not necessarily when he
transmitted it (depends on the mail client). The time comes from his
PC. This is the "Date:" line in the message header.

A Sent Message would not have any Received headers.

Some mail clients don't put in the Date header in saved messages, it's
only inserted as the message is sent to the mail server.

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of
the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack



"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change
the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message
and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the
last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are
kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported
folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but
they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity, I
see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date
I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

If you know what the date was supposed to be, or some reasonable date
that you want to use, you can edit the messages to give them a date.

- Do a File, Save As to save the message to an *.EML file, or
drag-and-drop the message to Windows folder
- Then edit the file in Notepad or other text editor. Insert a date
header, After the subject header is a reasonable place. A sample date
header would look like:
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:57:27 -0500
- Save the file.
- With OE5+, you can drag-and-drop the message back to an OE folder.
- You can then delete the original message.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Mike,

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.
I think I sort of know why the 4 emails have no date in the header --
they
were initially a message I inputted on a website, and I copied them or
somehow managed to get a copy into OE for my own record. I guess that
resolves the date anomaly. I was worried something was going wrong.

Thanks,
Jack



"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you originally import those 4 messages from another mail client?

Each mail messages has multiple time stamps. You can see these in
File,
Properties, Details.

When you look at the list of messages in Microsoft IE3 Internet Mail
or
IE4+ Outlook Express, the Received time is when the message was
received
by your ISP's mail server. The server supplies the time. This is the
first (top most) of possibly several "Received:" lines in the message
header. Each mail server that a message passes through adds its own
Received line. These are in reverse order, so that the bottom most
one
listed is the first server that received the message from the sender.

When you open or print a message, the time displayed is from the
sender's PC when he wrote the message, not necessarily when he
transmitted it (depends on the mail client). The time comes from his
PC. This is the "Date:" line in the message header.

A Sent Message would not have any Received headers.

Some mail clients don't put in the Date header in saved messages, it's
only inserted as the message is sent to the mail server.

On import, if OE doesn't find the date, it will use today's date.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Jim,

But why those 4 in particular, and, now they are undoubtedly out of
the
chronological order of the rest of the emails.


Jack



"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The date change occurs when you import the mails. It does not change
the
original message at all as you can see if you highlight the message
and
press Ctrl+F3 to examine the headers. It's just an indication of the
last
date on which the file was "touched", i.e., modified.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
Something weird -----

I have an OE 6 folder named SENT 2004. Emails I sent in 2004 are
kept in
that folder.

Today, March 6, I created another Identity, XYZ 2004. I imported
folders
and messages into it from the current identity, JBS.

Now I discover that 4 emails in the SENT 2004 folder in the XYZ 2004
identity are dated today's date (and all have the same time), but
they are
2004 emails. In checking the SENT 2004 folder in the JBS identity,
I
see
those 4 emails are dated 1/11/2006 5:18 PM -- that is about the date
I
imported the folder from OE 5.5.

Can anyone explain why the date changes on those 4 emails?

Jack

why the date changes on 4 emails?
 

Mike,

Nice tip -- thanks!


Jack


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
If you know what the date was supposed to be, or some reasonable date
that you want to use, you can edit the messages to give them a date.

- Do a File, Save As to save the message to an *.EML file, or
drag-and-drop the message to Windows folder
- Then edit the file in Notepad or other text editor. Insert a date
header, After the subject header is a reasonable place. A sample date
header would look like:
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:57:27 -0500
- Save the file.
- With OE5+, you can drag-and-drop the message back to an OE folder.
- You can then delete the original message.