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Kate June 4th 08 06:22 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them the
images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments in
binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below the
email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only by
double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way could
they create a potential danger?

I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would have
the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or posts to
Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may contain be
released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but I
thought I would ask...

Thank you
Kate



Bruce Hagen June 4th 08 06:31 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
That is how OE works. JPG, GIF and BMP graphics automatically show a copy
after the text of a message. They are usually of no security concern. If you
want to eliminate seeing them, you have two choices.

To prevent graphic attachments to be automatically displayed in messages you
receive, either set to read in Plain Text, or see:

Outlook Express Slide Show OE5, OE6
http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/slideshow.htm
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Kate" wrote in message
...
Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them the
images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments in
binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below the
email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only by
double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way could
they create a potential danger?

I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would have
the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or posts to
Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may contain be
released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but I
thought I would ask...

Thank you
Kate




Ken June 4th 08 06:42 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
Hi Kate,

You may find this of interest....
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ion.mspx#EOAAC

Ken

"Kate" wrote in message
...
| Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them the
| images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments in
| binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
| dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below the
| email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only by
| double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way could
| they create a potential danger?
|
| I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
| right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would have
| the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
| case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or posts to
| Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may contain be
| released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but I
| thought I would ask...
|
| Thank you
| Kate
|
|


Kate June 4th 08 07:14 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
Thank you both for the speedy replies.

Bruce : I do like to see the graphics below the text; it saves having
to save elsewhere and then delete if necessary, and it`s reassuring to
know that they pose little risk.
I read the article you linked to, Ken. I knew that installing e-mail
scanning software was superfluous, but didn`t realise that anti-virus
programs scanned files like jpegs automatically before OE displays
them. Good to know.

Thanks again
Kate

"Ken" wrote in message
...
Hi Kate,

You may find this of interest....
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ion.mspx#EOAAC

Ken

"Kate" wrote in message
...
| Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them
the
| images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments
in
| binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
| dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below
the
| email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only
by
| double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way
could
| they create a potential danger?
|
| I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
| right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would
have
| the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
| case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or
posts to
| Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may
contain be
| released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but
I
| thought I would ask...
|
| Thank you
| Kate
|
|



PA Bear [MS MVP] June 4th 08 07:58 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
With the understanding that the display of the JPEG in a separate area below
the message is not the equivalent of opening the attachment, try the
following:

OE Tools | Options | Read | Read all messages in plain text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Kate wrote:
Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them the
images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments in
binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below the
email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only by
double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way could
they create a potential danger?

I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would have
the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or posts to
Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may contain be
released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but I
thought I would ask...

Thank you
Kate



Michael Santovec June 4th 08 09:50 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
The only attachments that OE will open in the preview pane are JPG, GIF
and BMP files which are harmless. Having OE display them in the Preview
Pane will actually protect your from some Trojan Horses. One type uses
an attachment with a name such as IMAGE.JPG.exe hoping that you think
it's a JPG rather an a program. (The IMAGE part varies and the .exe can
be any type of program including .com, .bat, .pif, .vbs, etc.). If you
have told Windows to hide file extensions, (Settings, Folder Options,
View, Hide File Extensions) you are more likely to get tricked by this.
If you have set OE to open images in the Preview Pane and OE doesn't
automatically display it then it's not a real image.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kate" wrote in message
...
Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them the
images are displayed below the text. This applies to attachments in
binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg attachments can be
dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the images appear below the
email or post, are the files actually opened, or is it that only by
double-clicking the file attachment and opening them that way could
they create a potential danger?

I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would have
the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not the
case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or posts to
Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they may contain be
released by the "save as" action, please? It seems unlikely, but I
thought I would ask...

Thank you
Kate




Kate June 5th 08 12:18 AM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
Michael : as far as possible, I like to know what is going on in my
computer, so I do not hide file extensions, or, indeed, files. I
don`t use the Preview Pane, though, just double-click the email or
post to open it, but assume your comments still apply. I didn`t know
about the Trojan Horse which masquerades as a jpg, so I shall watch
out for those extra file extensions. Thanks for warning me.

Robear : As I mentioned earlier, I do like to see the image in the
email (or post) so that I can tell if it`s worth saving to the HD. If
I do save it, I scan it with AVG before opening it, just in case.
Probably unnecessary, though, in light of what has been said before in
this thread. Thank you for your confirmation that "...the display of
the JPEG in a separate area below the message is not the equivalent of
opening the attachment...", which is very reassuring.

My thanks again to all who replied.
Kate

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
The only attachments that OE will open in the preview pane are JPG,
GIF and BMP files which are harmless. Having OE display them in the
Preview Pane will actually protect your from some Trojan Horses.
One type uses an attachment with a name such as IMAGE.JPG.exe hoping
that you think it's a JPG rather an a program. (The IMAGE part
varies and the .exe can be any type of program including .com, .bat,
.pif, .vbs, etc.). If you have told Windows to hide file
extensions, (Settings, Folder Options, View, Hide File Extensions)
you are more likely to get tricked by this. If you have set OE to
open images in the Preview Pane and OE doesn't automatically display
it then it's not a real image.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kate" wrote in message
...
Sometimes I get emails with jpeg attachments and when I open them
the images are displayed below the text. This applies to
attachments in binary newsgroups, as well. I know that jpeg
attachments can be dodgy, so what I would like to know is, if the
images appear below the email or post, are the files actually
opened, or is it that only by double-clicking the file attachment
and opening them that way could they create a potential danger?

I use AVG Free (without email scanner) and thought that I could
right-click an email or post in OE before opening it and I would
have the option to Scan with AVG just to make sure, but this is not
the case, unfortunately. I can scan with AVG if I save emails or
posts to Desktop before opening it, but would any infection they
may contain be released by the "save as" action, please? It seems
unlikely, but I thought I would ask...

Thank you
Kate





madda June 14th 08 02:01 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 

I'm not sure that you can scan with AVG if you save emails to Desktop before
opening it. have you tried it?



Kate June 14th 08 06:50 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 
Yes, I have tried it, and it works using AVG v.7.5. Haven`t tried
with AVG v.8, as I uninstalled it when I found that version caused an
annoying problem with OE6 and newsgroups - even without email scanner
and link manager installed.

Kate

"madda" wrote in message
...

I'm not sure that you can scan with AVG if you save emails to
Desktop before opening it. have you tried it?




tove nielsen June 17th 08 06:20 PM

E-mail or posts with attachments
 

"madda" skrev i en meddelelse
...

I'm not sure that you can scan with AVG if you save emails to Desktop
before
opening it. have you tried it?






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