I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up, it's been
working well for year or so. But lately, it times out after a minute of
trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as they can go.
I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all firewall and cleared
the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same problem.
I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them both, same
problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system restore to a
period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL or any
other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from multiple isp's
will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

Post the complete error message and state your Windows version.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up, it's been
working well for year or so. But lately, it times out after a minute of
trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as they can
go. I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all firewall and
cleared the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same
problem. I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them
both, same problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system restore to a
period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL or any
other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from multiple isp's
will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or
a long period of inactivity.
Account: 'Rawdons Mail', Server: 'mail.islandroofingtt.com',
Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053,
Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2.
All updates to date are installed.

"PA Bear" wrote:

Post the complete error message and state your Windows version.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up, it's been
working well for year or so. But lately, it times out after a minute of
trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as they can
go. I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all firewall and
cleared the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same
problem. I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them
both, same problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system restore to a
period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL or any
other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from multiple isp's
will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using OL and OE
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813514

Your current Identity may have been damaged by your anti-virus app's email
scanning (see below), especially if its the default Main Identity. Try one
or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity (File Identities Add
new identity). Assuming all is well, import messages from the old Identity
before deleting it (File Identities Manage Identities).

To avoid such corruption in futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.

- Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~PA Bear


Usuallysilas wrote:
Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or
a long period of inactivity.
Account: 'Rawdons Mail', Server: 'mail.islandroofingtt.com',
Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053,
Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2.
All updates to date are installed.

"PA Bear" wrote:

Post the complete error message and state your Windows version.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up, it's
been working well for year or so. But lately, it times out after a
minute of trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as they
can go. I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all firewall
and cleared the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same
problem. I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them
both, same problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system restore
to a period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL or
any other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from
multiple isp's will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

"Usuallysilas" wrote in
message
Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or
a long period of inactivity.
Account: 'Rawdons Mail', Server: 'mail.islandroofingtt.com',
Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053,
Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2.
All updates to date are installed.

"PA Bear" wrote:

Post the complete error message and state your Windows version.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up,
it's been working well for year or so. But lately, it times out
after a minute of trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as
they can go. I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all
firewall and cleared the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same
problem. I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them
both, same problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system
restore to a period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL
or any other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from
multiple isp's will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

This is usually caused by an anti-spam program or and anti-virus set to scan
email.

Turn off email scanning in your anti-virus. It provides no added
protection. After doing so it may be necessary to reset the server names in
OE.

The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
Published: November 18, 2004
By Tom Koch
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Email scanning slows down Sending and Receiving, sometimes enough that OE
times out. Since some of the received messages have large (often virus)
attachments, which exasperates the problem.
Some Comcast users have found it necessary to totally uninstall Norton and
switch to the free AVG with mail scanning off. Norton invented email
scanning and here's what they say:

"Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...256c7500723cf0

"...your computer is protected if Auto-Protect is enabled. Auto-Protect
scans any incoming files, including email attachments, when the files are
saved to your hard drive."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01100907323806

"NAV provides multiple layers of protection. Email scanning is just one of
those layers. Even if you are not running Email Scanning, your computer is
protected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments by NAV
Auto-Protect. Auto-Protect will scan any incoming files, including email
attachments, as they are saved to your hard drive. To make sure that
Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled
and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus
definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam

See also
http://help.expedient.com/mailnews/n...ntivirus.shtml

So Symantec used to say this often and clearly. The newer stuff doesn't
have the statement included as it was considered an embarrassment. If you
know anyone who programs for Norton try to get them to talk about it.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

Thanks, however, I have complied with thise guides just as they were written
and the problem prevailed.
Remember that this phenomenon is happening only a baseband connection, it
works well on broadband.
I have found the casue though and it wasn't anything suggested in this
forum. The system restore informations last checkpoint, logs the installation
of a component called "Software Subscription Service 2.0". I restored the
system to the point before and now if functions normally on dial-up.
I tested it by undo-ing the restoration and the problem returned. I've been
since researching this component and finding little or no information about
it. There's no extended information either as to whether it's Microsoft,
Symantec or some other software provider.

Silas Poliah


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

"Usuallysilas" wrote in
message
Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or
a long period of inactivity.
Account: 'Rawdons Mail', Server: 'mail.islandroofingtt.com',
Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053,
Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2.
All updates to date are installed.

"PA Bear" wrote:

Post the complete error message and state your Windows version.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
I'm having a server time out problem in OE6. Using 56k Dial-up,
it's been working well for year or so. But lately, it times out
after a minute of trying to download a message.
On DSL it works fine. I have the time outs turned up as high as
they can go. I've uninstalled anti-virus software, turned off all
firewall and cleared the account using a webmail interface.
I sent 1 message to the account as a test, then dialed up and same
problem. I deleted the connection and the modem and reinstalled them
both, same problem.
I reinstalled OE and IE, same problem. I finally did a system
restore to a period when i was certain that it worked and no luck.
The browser is fine and i'm stumped. Yet it functions well on DSL
or any other high speed connection, but no dialup connection from
multiple isp's will work.
In most cases, it offers the Winsock Error - 10053 most times.
Any help will be appreciated.
Silas

This is usually caused by an anti-spam program or and anti-virus set to scan
email.

Turn off email scanning in your anti-virus. It provides no added
protection. After doing so it may be necessary to reset the server names in
OE.

The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
Published: November 18, 2004
By Tom Koch
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Email scanning slows down Sending and Receiving, sometimes enough that OE
times out. Since some of the received messages have large (often virus)
attachments, which exasperates the problem.
Some Comcast users have found it necessary to totally uninstall Norton and
switch to the free AVG with mail scanning off. Norton invented email
scanning and here's what they say:

"Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...256c7500723cf0

"...your computer is protected if Auto-Protect is enabled. Auto-Protect
scans any incoming files, including email attachments, when the files are
saved to your hard drive."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01100907323806

"NAV provides multiple layers of protection. Email scanning is just one of
those layers. Even if you are not running Email Scanning, your computer is
protected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments by NAV
Auto-Protect. Auto-Protect will scan any incoming files, including email
attachments, as they are saved to your hard drive. To make sure that
Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled
and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus
definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam

See also
http://help.expedient.com/mailnews/n...ntivirus.shtml

So Symantec used to say this often and clearly. The newer stuff doesn't
have the statement included as it was considered an embarrassment. If you
know anyone who programs for Norton try to get them to talk about it.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

[Baseband? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband]

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware

When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use.
It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post
your log to http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
http://castlecops.com/forum67.html,
http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or other appropriate forums for expert
analysis, not here.**

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Usuallysilas wrote:
Thanks, however, I have complied with thise guides just as they were
written and the problem prevailed.
Remember that this phenomenon is happening only a baseband connection, it
works well on broadband.
I have found the casue though and it wasn't anything suggested in this
forum. The system restore informations last checkpoint, logs the
installation of a component called "Software Subscription Service 2.0". I
restored the system to the point before and now if functions normally on
dial-up.
I tested it by undo-ing the restoration and the problem returned. I've
been since researching this component and finding little or no
information about it. There's no extended information either as to
whether it's Microsoft, Symantec or some other software provider.
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