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sjb June 29th 09 07:34 PM

Compacting
 
Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.

Bruce Hagen June 29th 09 07:39 PM

Compacting
 
The prompt comes after 100 closings of OE and there is no way to disable it.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.

***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry when
compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A manual
compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero now.

For more info, see the information outlined in red he
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"sjb" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.



Bruce Hagen June 29th 09 07:39 PM

Compacting
 
The prompt comes after 100 closings of OE and there is no way to disable it.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.

***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry when
compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A manual
compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero now.

For more info, see the information outlined in red he
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.

And backup often.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"sjb" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.



PA Bear [MS MVP] June 29th 09 07:43 PM

Compacting
 
Did you only recently install WinXP SP2?

Adhere to the following user caveats and you'll never encounter Automatic
Compacting...and you'll be safeguarding your message store, too.

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


sjb wrote:
Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.



PA Bear [MS MVP] June 29th 09 07:43 PM

Compacting
 
Did you only recently install WinXP SP2?

Adhere to the following user caveats and you'll never encounter Automatic
Compacting...and you'll be safeguarding your message store, too.

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


sjb wrote:
Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.



Twayne[_2_] June 30th 09 01:32 AM

Compacting
 
"sjb" wrote in message

Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.


But then again, using the tools at hand is a pretty smart thing to do
too. Going from automatic to manual isn't exactly progress.



Twayne[_2_] June 30th 09 01:32 AM

Compacting
 

"sjb" wrote in message

Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.


But then again, using the tools at hand is a pretty smart thing to do
too. Going from automatic to manual isn't exactly progress.



Gerry[_2_] June 30th 09 09:39 AM

Compacting
 
Twayne

Nevertheless that's what the experience of users of Outlook Express has
demonstrated over the years and it is not going to change. Microsoft
changed the way messages are stored in Windows Mail, most likely because
their tinkering with the compaction process had failed to produce a
totally satisfactory outcome.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Twayne wrote:
"sjb" wrote in message

Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.


But then again, using the tools at hand is a pretty smart thing to do
too. Going from automatic to manual isn't exactly progress.



Gerry[_2_] June 30th 09 09:39 AM

Compacting
 
Twayne

Nevertheless that's what the experience of users of Outlook Express has
demonstrated over the years and it is not going to change. Microsoft
changed the way messages are stored in Windows Mail, most likely because
their tinkering with the compaction process had failed to produce a
totally satisfactory outcome.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Twayne wrote:
"sjb" wrote in message

Is there any way to get rid of the annoying pop-up that prompts me to
Compact.

I'd like to do that on my own volition.

We're sopposed to use the machine not the other way around.


But then again, using the tools at hand is a pretty smart thing to do
too. Going from automatic to manual isn't exactly progress.




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