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Old September 4th 09, 11:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Hotmail problem with outlook express
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If I use new Outlook Express setting to access hotmail, how can Outlook
Express synchronize with my hotmail account? when I manage my hotmail within
Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Eric wrote:
I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric



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Old September 4th 09, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:31:01 -0700, Eric wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote:


On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:52:05 -0700, Eric wrote:


I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


Use rules. First, under "Local Folders", create a subfolder with the same
name as your Hotmail account (Tools|Options|General; the first box, just
above "User Information"). Second, under that subfolder, create a
sub-subfolder, and call it, "Inbox". Third, set up your rule:

| Apply this rule after the message arrives
| Where the message is from the {Account_Name_here) account
| Move it to the Inbox folder
| and Stop processing more rules

Repeat as necessary for each Hotmail POP3 account. Make sure these rules are
at the top of the Rules list.


Thank you very much for suggestions
could you please give me any suggestions on how to redirect all junk mail
from hotmail account into specific local junk mail folder? or is there any
option to load hotmail into outlook express? and all related mails will go
into the right folder.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


The POP3 protocol is not a "folder-oriented" protocol. It only undersands,
"Inbox", so that is the only Hotmail folder it sees. No other Hotmail
folders can be accessed using POP3.

MS Outlook Express does not include a native spam filter, so all email in
the Hotmail Inbox is downloaded unfiltered. If you set the Hotmail "Junk"
filter to the lowest setting, you will get most, but not all, spam
unfiltered to your Inbox, and it will download through the POP3 setting. I
don't know of a way to get the filtered email, short of moving it to the
Inbox while you use a browser to access the web mail view of your Hotmail
account.

You can try additional MSOE filters to catch the spam, if you are clever
enough to find the right filtering keys. Add additional filtering rules
after your Hotmail Inbox rule; all additional filtering will have to be done
after your email has been downloaded, so the Hotmail filter needs to be
first.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 4th 09, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
N. Miller
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:31:01 -0700, Eric wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote:


On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:52:05 -0700, Eric wrote:


I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


Use rules. First, under "Local Folders", create a subfolder with the same
name as your Hotmail account (Tools|Options|General; the first box, just
above "User Information"). Second, under that subfolder, create a
sub-subfolder, and call it, "Inbox". Third, set up your rule:

| Apply this rule after the message arrives
| Where the message is from the {Account_Name_here) account
| Move it to the Inbox folder
| and Stop processing more rules

Repeat as necessary for each Hotmail POP3 account. Make sure these rules are
at the top of the Rules list.


Thank you very much for suggestions
could you please give me any suggestions on how to redirect all junk mail
from hotmail account into specific local junk mail folder? or is there any
option to load hotmail into outlook express? and all related mails will go
into the right folder.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


The POP3 protocol is not a "folder-oriented" protocol. It only undersands,
"Inbox", so that is the only Hotmail folder it sees. No other Hotmail
folders can be accessed using POP3.

MS Outlook Express does not include a native spam filter, so all email in
the Hotmail Inbox is downloaded unfiltered. If you set the Hotmail "Junk"
filter to the lowest setting, you will get most, but not all, spam
unfiltered to your Inbox, and it will download through the POP3 setting. I
don't know of a way to get the filtered email, short of moving it to the
Inbox while you use a browser to access the web mail view of your Hotmail
account.

You can try additional MSOE filters to catch the spam, if you are clever
enough to find the right filtering keys. Add additional filtering rules
after your Hotmail Inbox rule; all additional filtering will have to be done
after your email has been downloaded, so the Hotmail filter needs to be
first.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 4th 09, 03:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
N. Miller
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 03:36:01 -0700, Eric wrote:

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:


Eric wrote:


I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account, I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my
hotmail account including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.


Is there any different to access hotmail using Outlook Express and Microsoft
Outlook? If I change to use Microsoft Outlook, will it have more option to
classify my junk mail - hotmail into junk mail folder? because I have set
many rules to define junk mail, and it will be difficult to add all rules
back into Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


MS Outlook, if you are willing to pay (OL isn't free), can access Hotmail in
the familiar way as MS Outlook Express used to; assuming you will be using
OL 2003, or OL 2007. But you will need an additional utility called,
"Outlook Connector". AFAIK, OL versions earlier than 2003 are out of luck
WRT HTTPMail access to Hotmail accounts. I have no clue if later versions of
OL support the new "DelatSync" protocol natively, or not.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 4th 09, 03:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
N. Miller
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 03:36:01 -0700, Eric wrote:

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:


Eric wrote:


I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account, I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my
hotmail account including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.


Is there any different to access hotmail using Outlook Express and Microsoft
Outlook? If I change to use Microsoft Outlook, will it have more option to
classify my junk mail - hotmail into junk mail folder? because I have set
many rules to define junk mail, and it will be difficult to add all rules
back into Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


MS Outlook, if you are willing to pay (OL isn't free), can access Hotmail in
the familiar way as MS Outlook Express used to; assuming you will be using
OL 2003, or OL 2007. But you will need an additional utility called,
"Outlook Connector". AFAIK, OL versions earlier than 2003 are out of luck
WRT HTTPMail access to Hotmail accounts. I have no clue if later versions of
OL support the new "DelatSync" protocol natively, or not.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 4th 09, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

If you're running OL 2003 or 2007, you have the option of using Outlook
Connector. See the link in my previous reply.

Junk Mail filtering is done on the server before your messages downloaded
into the Hotmail and/or OE inbox.

Note that only messages in your inbox at www.hotmail.com will download into
OE (or OL) when the account's being accessed via POP3.


Eric wrote:
Is there any different to access hotmail using Outlook Express and
Microsoft
Outlook? If I change to use Microsoft Outlook, will it have more option to
classify my junk mail - hotmail into junk mail folder? because I have set
many rules to define junk mail, and it will be difficult to add all rules
back into Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or
want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time
OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Eric wrote:
I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail
account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express
6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


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Old September 4th 09, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

If you're running OL 2003 or 2007, you have the option of using Outlook
Connector. See the link in my previous reply.

Junk Mail filtering is done on the server before your messages downloaded
into the Hotmail and/or OE inbox.

Note that only messages in your inbox at www.hotmail.com will download into
OE (or OL) when the account's being accessed via POP3.


Eric wrote:
Is there any different to access hotmail using Outlook Express and
Microsoft
Outlook? If I change to use Microsoft Outlook, will it have more option to
classify my junk mail - hotmail into junk mail folder? because I have set
many rules to define junk mail, and it will be difficult to add all rules
back into Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or
want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time
OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Eric wrote:
I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail
account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express
6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


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Old September 4th 09, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

See previous replies to your thread.

Hotmail problem with outlook express wrote:
If I use new Outlook Express setting to access hotmail, how can Outlook
Express synchronize with my hotmail account? when I manage my hotmail
within
Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or
want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time
OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Eric wrote:
I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail
account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express
6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


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Old September 4th 09, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

See previous replies to your thread.

Hotmail problem with outlook express wrote:
If I use new Outlook Express setting to access hotmail, how can Outlook
Express synchronize with my hotmail account? when I manage my hotmail
within
Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or
want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time
OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Eric wrote:
I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail
account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express
6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric


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Old September 4th 09, 03:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
N. Miller
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Default Hotmail problem with outlook express

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 03:44:01 -0700, Hotmail problem with outlook express
wrote:

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:


Eric wrote:


I can able to load hotmail into outlook express from link as show below
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

but all hotmail emails go into inbox, which mix with my local email
account,
I would like to set for the previous set, so I can see my hotmail account
including 4 types of folders: Inbox, Outbox, Delete, Junk.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do it within Outlook Express 6?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


The separate set of Hotmail-specific folders you're used to having in OE
(illustration:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
are no longer available now that WebDAV support has ended.

All of the folders remain available at http://mail.live.com.

More FAQs he

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

If there's a message in, e.g., your Junk Mail folder that you need or want
in OE, Move the message to your inbox on the webmail page. The next time OE
polls the account, the message will download into OE's Inbox folder.


If I use new Outlook Express setting to access hotmail, how can Outlook
Express synchronize with my hotmail account? when I manage my hotmail within
Outlook Express.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


Unfortunately, asking the same question repeatedly doesn't change the
answer. POP3 is not a "folder-oriented" protocol, and can't synchronize
online folders. It only understands "Inbox", and only downloads the contents
of the account "Inbox". See my earlier post for one suggested method of
simulating folder synch. Alas, the only way to get the same action you are
familiar with, exactly, is to install Windows Live Mail, and use it, instead
of MSOE, to set up Hotmail as an HTTPMail account. If you do try that, don't
let WLMail import your Hotmail accounts; they are POP3, and you will want to
use the WLMail "HTTPMail" access for your Hotmail accounts.

If you have already tried WLMail, and removed it because you hate it, then
you are just plain out of luck. POP3 is the only way to access Hotmail with
MS Outlook Express, now.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 




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