Seeing a thread from non-thread mode

If you have the message highlighted prior to switching the views, then it
should work okay. If its not highlighted (selected) though, it will get
lost and you will have to page to find the thread.

steve

"BillW50" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:27:36 -0500:
You need View | Current View | Show all messages and then with the
message highlighted, you can then go to Group messages by conversation
and expand the thread as well. OETool (www.oehelp.com/OETool/) has
buttons to do this that make it rather easy.

steve

That is how I do it Steve, although with the ALT-V-V-G toggle. Although
unless you are on the original post, it often disappears from view after
the toggle.

Although I tried it your way and it appears to be working. Does it always
work? It should act just like the ALT-V-V-G toggle, wouldn't you think?

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
VanguardLH typed on Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:10:53 -0600:
BillW50 wrote:

I would like to read the whole thread first to make sure somebody
didn't already say what I wanted to add.
Group Messages by Conversation view
I seem to recall that used to work. But nowadays (with a half of dozen
of computers) this doesn't do it anymore. As toggling with ALT-V-V-G the
post disappears and something else is selected. And finding the thread
is different.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

In ,
Steve Cochran typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:22:44 -0500:
If you have the message highlighted prior to switching the views,
then it should work okay. If its not highlighted (selected) though,
it will get lost and you will have to page to find the thread.

steve

That works for me if I find the original post first (sort by subject to
find it) and then go to "Group Messages By Conversation". Then I can see
them all. But if I highlight one of the newer posts in a thread then
"Group Messages By Conversation", it sometimes disappears from view.
Does this happen to you too?

You know I just thought about something. When the highlighted one
disappears, it might only happen when the subject line is changed. As I
am not sure now.

"BillW50" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:27:36 -0500:
You need View | Current View | Show all messages and then with the
message highlighted, you can then go to Group messages by
conversation and expand the thread as well. OETool
(www.oehelp.com/OETool/) has buttons to do this that make it rather
easy. steve

That is how I do it Steve, although with the ALT-V-V-G toggle.
Although unless you are on the original post, it often disappears
from view after the toggle.

Although I tried it your way and it appears to be working. Does it
always work? It should act just like the ALT-V-V-G toggle, wouldn't
you think?
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
VanguardLH typed on Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:10:53 -0600:
BillW50 wrote:

I would like to read the whole thread first to make sure somebody
didn't already say what I wanted to add.
Group Messages by Conversation view
I seem to recall that used to work. But nowadays (with a half of
dozen of computers) this doesn't do it anymore. As toggling with
ALT-V-V-G the post disappears and something else is selected. And
finding the thread is different.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

In ,
Steve Cochran typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:22:44 -0500:
If you have the message highlighted prior to switching the views,
then it should work okay. If its not highlighted (selected) though,
it will get lost and you will have to page to find the thread.

steve

That works for me if I find the original post first (sort by subject to
find it) and then go to "Group Messages By Conversation". Then I can see
them all. But if I highlight one of the newer posts in a thread then
"Group Messages By Conversation", it sometimes disappears from view.
Does this happen to you too?

You know I just thought about something. When the highlighted one
disappears, it might only happen when the subject line is changed. As I
am not sure now.

"BillW50" wrote in message
...
Steve Cochran wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:27:36 -0500:
You need View | Current View | Show all messages and then with the
message highlighted, you can then go to Group messages by
conversation and expand the thread as well. OETool
(www.oehelp.com/OETool/) has buttons to do this that make it rather
easy. steve

That is how I do it Steve, although with the ALT-V-V-G toggle.
Although unless you are on the original post, it often disappears
from view after the toggle.

Although I tried it your way and it appears to be working. Does it
always work? It should act just like the ALT-V-V-G toggle, wouldn't
you think?
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
VanguardLH typed on Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:10:53 -0600:
BillW50 wrote:

I would like to read the whole thread first to make sure somebody
didn't already say what I wanted to add.
Group Messages by Conversation view
I seem to recall that used to work. But nowadays (with a half of
dozen of computers) this doesn't do it anymore. As toggling with
ALT-V-V-G the post disappears and something else is selected. And
finding the thread is different.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the other
programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...

Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the other
programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:48:51 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...

Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the
other programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

Oh gosh! I forgot about JVM. I also hate that thing. :-(

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:48:51 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...

Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the
other programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

Oh gosh! I forgot about JVM. I also hate that thing. :-(

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:48:51 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...

Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the
other programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

Oh gosh! I forgot about JVM. I also hate that thing. :-(

Slightly OT, but you may find this interesting:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ref...ne_Threats.pdf

....it's not about Java, but more about the type of VM you actually
meant, and may be of interest to the malware researchers amongst us.

"BillW50" wrote in message
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In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:48:51 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
FromTheRafters typed on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:20:00 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
N. Miller wrote on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:36:01 -0800:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...

Really? They can't even show replies to my messages. Take this
piece of junk I am using right now called Thunderbird.
Unfortunately MS never developed OE for Linux yet.

Nor will they ever. MS is a publisher of closed source programs.
When they stop work on a program, it is over for that program.
Permanently. You are saying that you can't run Windows XP in a
Linux
VM? That will certainly allow you to have access to your beloved
MSOE! :/

Emulators and virtual machines slows you down. Thus I have no use
for
such things. Multiple computers beats both every time. ;-)

Say do you use virtual machines?

Most people do, in fact you probably do without even knowing it.

How so?

Java Virtual Machine.

But you're right, any additional code that's running will make the
other programs sharing the processors time seem to run slower.

Oh gosh! I forgot about JVM. I also hate that thing. :-(

Slightly OT, but you may find this interesting:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ref...ne_Threats.pdf

....it's not about Java, but more about the type of VM you actually
meant, and may be of interest to the malware researchers amongst us.

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message ...
If you have the message highlighted prior to switching the views, then it
should work okay. If its not highlighted (selected) though, it will get
lost and you will have to page to find the thread.


Only if Always expand is checked. We still don't know if he is using
that option but I suspect not.


Robert
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