I can't quite shake the feeling that OL2007 is a minimalist rehash of
what has gone before.

To me I'd expect these as absolute minimums in a 2007 email program:
- can handle multiple email addresses easily-peasily (eg without crashing)
- can handle these with dedicated folders in order to keep mail separate
and distinct rather than relying on a bundle if not quite so effective
Rules to do so
- can handle chat rooms, forums and news groups equally easily-peasily

- Calendar handling should make it easy to identify duplication should
any arise (especially given that phome, PDA, laptop, workstation, server
may have the same (mostly) appointments. Identifying dupes easily
whould be a non-demanding operation

- orchestrating input/output, import/export from a variety of media
should also have a pleasant and unambiguous workflow


Bob Buckland ?:-) wrote:
Hi CJSNet,

Be sure to send your Office 2007 suggestions, comments and feedback on what you do like or what you find difficult to use directly
to the MS Office Product team by using the 2007 feedback tool from the link below.

The tool allows you to send screenshots and descriptions. Be sure to include information on what having a changed feature would
enable you to do better, faster, easier and if it's something you'd use daily, once in awhile, etc.

==============
"CJSnet" wrote in message ...
"William Lefkovics [MVP]"
wrote in message ...
You are kidding, right?

No, because the two feature suggestions I made are very good ones.

You do make a couple of good feature suggestions

Thanks, that's all I was trying to do. Next step is to get MS to recognise
them.

To me I'd expect these as absolute minimums in a 2007 email program:
- can handle multiple email addresses easily-peasily (eg without crashing)
Sure it can. It's a beta version though so crashes are to be expected.

- can handle these with dedicated folders in order to keep mail separate
and distinct rather than relying on a bundle if not quite so effective
Rules to do so
Rules generally work

- can handle chat rooms, forums and news groups equally easily-peasily
Outlook is targeted at business customers with Exchange server. No need
for chat rooms, forums and news groups for those, especially because you
can get a lot of that functionality with other MS products that
integrate into Outlook, but with strict corporate control.

- Calendar handling should make it easy to identify duplication should
any arise (especially given that phome, PDA, laptop, workstation, server
may have the same (mostly) appointments. Identifying dupes easily
whould be a non-demanding operation
Use the send a smile tool to submit this as suggestion.

- orchestrating input/output, import/export from a variety of media
should also have a pleasant and unambiguous workflow
Like what media?


Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net



Bob Buckland ?:-) wrote:
Hi CJSNet,

Be sure to send your Office 2007 suggestions, comments and feedback on what you do like or what you find difficult to use directly
to the MS Office Product team by using the 2007 feedback tool from the link below.

The tool allows you to send screenshots and descriptions. Be sure to include information on what having a changed feature would
enable you to do better, faster, easier and if it's something you'd use daily, once in awhile, etc.

==============
"CJSnet" wrote in message ...
"William Lefkovics [MVP]"
wrote in message ...
You are kidding, right?

No, because the two feature suggestions I made are very good ones.

You do make a couple of good feature suggestions

Thanks, that's all I was trying to do. Next step is to get MS to recognise
them.

"deebs" wrote in message
...
I can't quite shake the feeling that OL2007 is a minimalist rehash of what
has gone before.

Sorry to say I agree.

To me I'd expect these as absolute minimums in a 2007 email program:
....
- can handle these with dedicated folders in order to keep mail separate
and distinct rather than relying on a bundle if not quite so effective
Rules to do so

Hear hear!

Bob Buckland ?:-) wrote:
Hi CJSNet,

Be sure to send your Office 2007 suggestions, comments and feedback on
what you do like or what you find difficult to use directly
to the MS Office Product team by using the 2007 feedback tool from the
link below.

The tool allows you to send screenshots and descriptions. Be sure to
include information on what having a changed feature would
enable you to do better, faster, easier and if it's something you'd use
daily, once in awhile, etc.

==============
"CJSnet" wrote in message
...
"William Lefkovics [MVP]"
wrote in message
...
You are kidding, right?

No, because the two feature suggestions I made are very good ones.

You do make a couple of good feature suggestions

Thanks, that's all I was trying to do. Next step is to get MS to
recognise
them.

"Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
wrote in message ...
Because Google mail is web based and for anyone. Outlook is the client
for
Exchange and will always have different behaviors. If you like Google
mail,
fine, just don't expect anyone else, especially Microsoft to build a
clone.
Why would they?

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]


Because young minds and fresh ideas shouldn't be dismissed. Outlook has an
interface that has been (functionally) unchanged since 1995. Wading through
large sets of incoming e-mail is a chore. Keeping track of long conversation
"threads" is downright impossible. Outlook.... for all its ubiquity.... is
quite possibly the most UNDERUSED piece of software in Office. Nobody uses
to its potential.... and that's largely due to its dinosaur outdated user
interface IMHO.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

It's main window will be updated with Office 14 (#13 is being skipped).

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"CMM" wrote in message
:

"Milly Staples - MVP Outlook"
wrote in message ...
Because Google mail is web based and for anyone. Outlook is the client
for
Exchange and will always have different behaviors. If you like Google
mail,
fine, just don't expect anyone else, especially Microsoft to build a
clone.
Why would they?

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]


Because young minds and fresh ideas shouldn't be dismissed. Outlook has an
interface that has been (functionally) unchanged since 1995. Wading through
large sets of incoming e-mail is a chore. Keeping track of long conversation
"threads" is downright impossible. Outlook.... for all its ubiquity.... is
quite possibly the most UNDERUSED piece of software in Office. Nobody uses
to its potential.... and that's largely due to its dinosaur outdated user
interface IMHO.

--
-C. Moya
www.cmoya.com

CJSnet wrote:

Outlook already has the Conversations view which is good, but doesn't
work very well. Use it in Inbox and you only see the incoming parts
of the conversation! That's not really a conversation is it.

You can have that in Outlook if you want it. Just have your outgoing mail
stored in Inbox instead of Sent Items.
--
Brian Tillman

CJSnet wrote:

The best feature of all would be for MS to simply add a detector to
replace all the quoted text below the latest e-mail, with a little
drop-down button like Google's "- Show quoted text -" option. This
is a Godsend.

That feature is for lazy people who don't understand the value of
cut-and-paste, like to top-post and never trim the previous messages from
their reply. It's a cosmetic coat of paint hiding a structural behavior
problem.
--
Brian Tillman

"Brian Tillman" wrote in message
...
CJSnet wrote:

The best feature of all would be for MS to simply add a detector to
replace all the quoted text below the latest e-mail, with a little
drop-down button like Google's "- Show quoted text -" option. This
is a Godsend.

That feature is for lazy people who don't understand the value of
cut-and-paste, like to top-post and never trim the previous messages from
their reply. It's a cosmetic coat of paint hiding a structural behavior
problem.

Doesn't mean it isn't extremely useful and that MS shouldn't include it.
Especially seeing as top-posting is a largely Microsoft-supported habit
(that's why my cursor appears in 2 blank lines ABOVE every e-mail and
newsgroup message I reply to in OL/OE).
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Try Google Quik-e-search™ at www.Superhighstreet.com/home
....Finds anything or they buy it for you!

[remove 'teeth' to e-mail me]

deebs wrote:

To me I'd expect these as absolute minimums in a 2007 email program:
- can handle multiple email addresses easily-peasily (eg without
crashing)

Once OL 2007 is in production release it will be at least as reliable as
priot Outlooks. My Outlook installations handle four or five separate
accounts with never a crash.

- can handle these with dedicated folders in order to keep mail
separate and distinct rather than relying on a bundle if not quite so
effective Rules to do so

Rules are quite effective.

- can handle chat rooms, forums and news groups equally easily-peasily

Not in a business environment. This is a bad idea. Outlook is already a
large program. Let's not introduce additional areas where things can go
wrong.

- Calendar handling should make it easy to identify duplication should
any arise (especially given that phome, PDA, laptop, workstation,
server may have the same (mostly) appointments. Identifying dupes
easily whould be a non-demanding operation

I get a duplicate in my calendar maybe once or twice a year, despite syncing
with multiple devices. When I do, it's nearly trivial to correct the
problem.

- orchestrating input/output, import/export from a variety of media
should also have a pleasant and unambiguous workflow

Unless absolutely necessary, import and export should be avoided.
--
Brian Tillman

And which is why I seldom respond to bottom posted messages - it is a waste
of my time so I don't bother.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, CJSnet asked:

| "Brian Tillman" wrote in message
| ...
|| CJSnet wrote:
||
||| The best feature of all would be for MS to simply add a detector to
||| replace all the quoted text below the latest e-mail, with a little
||| drop-down button like Google's "- Show quoted text -" option. This
||| is a Godsend.
||
|| That feature is for lazy people who don't understand the value of
|| cut-and-paste, like to top-post and never trim the previous messages
|| from their reply. It's a cosmetic coat of paint hiding a structural
|| behavior problem.
|
| Doesn't mean it isn't extremely useful and that MS shouldn't include
| it. Especially seeing as top-posting is a largely Microsoft-supported
| habit (that's why my cursor appears in 2 blank lines ABOVE every
| e-mail and newsgroup message I reply to in OL/OE).