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  #1  
Old January 23rd 08, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Deputy5211
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties from

New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have converted
from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.

I used AddressMagic to import all of my email messages from Eudora into a
new OL2007 PST file. Conversion worked great, and I can see and use all of
my emails and attachments.

FUNCTION:

Auto Archiving



ERROR:

* Pop-up error message declares: "Errors occurred while archiving. Look for
a detailed report in your Deleted Items folder."

* Delete Items folder shows messages of the format:
Error while archiving folder "ABC" in store "Personal Folders - AJK".
Cannot read archive properties from folder ABC. Cannot create archiving
properties. An unexpected error has occurred.

* Message above repeats in block format in the Deleted Items entry, naming
different folders in each iteration of the message.




BACKGROUND AND PROCESS:

* The PST file is 3+ gigs, and I have it on an 8gb Express memory card to
avoid physical RPS, latency, and other delays related to HDD. This decision
was based on the size of the PST file.

* I have an archive PST set up on HDD, and it shows under "Data Files" in OL.

* Default Auto-Archive parameters are set to archive anything older than x
months (plenty of messages to fit that description).

* Right clicked on top level of mail folder tree, set auto-archive to use
default auto archive, and I manually confirmed that sub-folders have this
property as well.

* Select Tools | Mailbox Cleanup | Auto Archive

* Runs for a while, status at bottom of window shows archiving zzz folder
and changes as it presumably goes about its business.

* Archive PST does contain a duplicate of the main mailbox PST, but no
messages can be found in any of the folders.

* I went back through the main PST, and found many messages dated far beyond
the x months I stipulated for archival.

* Main PST file size does not appear to have decreased.

* Archive PST file size does not appear to have increased.


RESOLUTION SOUGHT:

* Understanding of error.

* Understanding of correction of error

* Archival of main PST messages to reduce file size and increase performance
of Outlook while maintaining online-near-line access to historical messages.


Any ideas?



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  #2  
Old January 23rd 08, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties from

Archiving works on the modified date not the received date so if you
imported the messages, autoarchive isn't practical until all the imported
messages are ready to be archived.

--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

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"Deputy5211" wrote in message
...
New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have converted
from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.

I used AddressMagic to import all of my email messages from Eudora into a
new OL2007 PST file. Conversion worked great, and I can see and use all
of
my emails and attachments.

FUNCTION:

Auto Archiving



ERROR:

* Pop-up error message declares: "Errors occurred while archiving. Look
for
a detailed report in your Deleted Items folder."

* Delete Items folder shows messages of the format:
Error while archiving folder "ABC" in store "Personal Folders - AJK".
Cannot read archive properties from folder ABC. Cannot create archiving
properties. An unexpected error has occurred.

* Message above repeats in block format in the Deleted Items entry, naming
different folders in each iteration of the message.




BACKGROUND AND PROCESS:

* The PST file is 3+ gigs, and I have it on an 8gb Express memory card to
avoid physical RPS, latency, and other delays related to HDD. This
decision
was based on the size of the PST file.

* I have an archive PST set up on HDD, and it shows under "Data Files" in
OL.

* Default Auto-Archive parameters are set to archive anything older than x
months (plenty of messages to fit that description).

* Right clicked on top level of mail folder tree, set auto-archive to use
default auto archive, and I manually confirmed that sub-folders have this
property as well.

* Select Tools | Mailbox Cleanup | Auto Archive

* Runs for a while, status at bottom of window shows archiving zzz folder
and changes as it presumably goes about its business.

* Archive PST does contain a duplicate of the main mailbox PST, but no
messages can be found in any of the folders.

* I went back through the main PST, and found many messages dated far
beyond
the x months I stipulated for archival.

* Main PST file size does not appear to have decreased.

* Archive PST file size does not appear to have increased.


RESOLUTION SOUGHT:

* Understanding of error.

* Understanding of correction of error

* Archival of main PST messages to reduce file size and increase
performance
of Outlook while maintaining online-near-line access to historical
messages.


Any ideas?



  #3  
Old January 23rd 08, 06:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Deputy5211
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Fair enough. Assuming you are correct, then I would not expect anything to
start exporting for x months from now, then.

Are you certain that AddressMagicPersonaPlus does not preserve the modified
date? Also, should this not cause AutoArchive to just bypass the files? Why
does the list of folder change with each run? Is there another way to pare
back the messages from my main PST based on received date? How about a
utility o work through the tree and set the last modified date+ received date?

Any takers?

Anthony

"Diane Poremsky" wrote:

Archiving works on the modified date not the received date so if you
imported the messages, autoarchive isn't practical until all the imported
messages are ready to be archived.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Deputy5211" wrote in message
...
New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have converted
from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.

I used AddressMagic to import all of my email messages from Eudora into a
new OL2007 PST file. Conversion worked great, and I can see and use all
of
my emails and attachments.

FUNCTION:

Auto Archiving



ERROR:

* Pop-up error message declares: "Errors occurred while archiving. Look
for
a detailed report in your Deleted Items folder."

* Delete Items folder shows messages of the format:
Error while archiving folder "ABC" in store "Personal Folders - AJK".
Cannot read archive properties from folder ABC. Cannot create archiving
properties. An unexpected error has occurred.

* Message above repeats in block format in the Deleted Items entry, naming
different folders in each iteration of the message.




BACKGROUND AND PROCESS:

* The PST file is 3+ gigs, and I have it on an 8gb Express memory card to
avoid physical RPS, latency, and other delays related to HDD. This
decision
was based on the size of the PST file.

* I have an archive PST set up on HDD, and it shows under "Data Files" in
OL.

* Default Auto-Archive parameters are set to archive anything older than x
months (plenty of messages to fit that description).

* Right clicked on top level of mail folder tree, set auto-archive to use
default auto archive, and I manually confirmed that sub-folders have this
property as well.

* Select Tools | Mailbox Cleanup | Auto Archive

* Runs for a while, status at bottom of window shows archiving zzz folder
and changes as it presumably goes about its business.

* Archive PST does contain a duplicate of the main mailbox PST, but no
messages can be found in any of the folders.

* I went back through the main PST, and found many messages dated far
beyond
the x months I stipulated for archival.

* Main PST file size does not appear to have decreased.

* Archive PST file size does not appear to have increased.


RESOLUTION SOUGHT:

* Understanding of error.

* Understanding of correction of error

* Archival of main PST messages to reduce file size and increase
performance
of Outlook while maintaining online-near-line access to historical
messages.


Any ideas?



  #4  
Old January 23rd 08, 12:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties from

Deputy5211 wrote:

New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have
converted from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home
Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.


No need to post more than once.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
  #5  
Old January 23rd 08, 01:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Deputy5211
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Posts: 7
Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Agreed. Was not intentional.

"Brian Tillman" wrote:

Deputy5211 wrote:

New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have
converted from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home
Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.


No need to post more than once.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

  #6  
Old January 23rd 08, 03:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Deputy5211
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Do you have any information or insight into to the problem I described?

"Brian Tillman" wrote:

Deputy5211 wrote:

New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have
converted from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home
Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.


No need to post more than once.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

  #7  
Old January 23rd 08, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Deputy5211 wrote:

Do you have any information or insight into to the problem I
described?


I don't see where you answered Diane's question in your original thread.
Frankly, the problems you described don't surprise me because importing
always has unexpected side-effects.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

  #8  
Old January 24th 08, 04:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Diane Poremsky
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Outlook sets the modified date when the message is created. It does not use
the Received field value for the modified date.

You can manually archive. Sort by received date then select the older ones
and use Edit, move to folder... selecting the folder in the archive pst. It
will be slow since you'll need to do it with all folders. This is easiest
for a couple of folders where you want total control but its to only way to
move files.

You can fake autoarchiving by using import/export and setting a filter, but
it copies the messages, not move them - that means it doesn't delete them
from the first pst and you'll have duplicates. If the pst is large, I would
export newer items to a new pst then set the newer one as the default
message store and move contacts to the new pst.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Deputy5211" wrote in message
...
Fair enough. Assuming you are correct, then I would not expect anything
to
start exporting for x months from now, then.

Are you certain that AddressMagicPersonaPlus does not preserve the
modified
date? Also, should this not cause AutoArchive to just bypass the files?
Why
does the list of folder change with each run? Is there another way to
pare
back the messages from my main PST based on received date? How about a
utility o work through the tree and set the last modified date+ received
date?

Any takers?

Anthony

"Diane Poremsky" wrote:

Archiving works on the modified date not the received date so if you
imported the messages, autoarchive isn't practical until all the imported
messages are ready to be archived.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips:
http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Deputy5211" wrote in message
...
New Outlook user, please go easy on me. As of 01/01/2008 I have
converted
from Eudora v7.x to Outlook 2007. Running Vista Home Premium, dual core
2.2ghz, 4gb RAM, all patches current per multiple runs of MS Update.

I used AddressMagic to import all of my email messages from Eudora into
a
new OL2007 PST file. Conversion worked great, and I can see and use
all
of
my emails and attachments.

FUNCTION:

Auto Archiving



ERROR:

* Pop-up error message declares: "Errors occurred while archiving.
Look
for
a detailed report in your Deleted Items folder."

* Delete Items folder shows messages of the format:
Error while archiving folder "ABC" in store "Personal Folders - AJK".
Cannot read archive properties from folder ABC. Cannot create
archiving
properties. An unexpected error has occurred.

* Message above repeats in block format in the Deleted Items entry,
naming
different folders in each iteration of the message.




BACKGROUND AND PROCESS:

* The PST file is 3+ gigs, and I have it on an 8gb Express memory card
to
avoid physical RPS, latency, and other delays related to HDD. This
decision
was based on the size of the PST file.

* I have an archive PST set up on HDD, and it shows under "Data Files"
in
OL.

* Default Auto-Archive parameters are set to archive anything older
than x
months (plenty of messages to fit that description).

* Right clicked on top level of mail folder tree, set auto-archive to
use
default auto archive, and I manually confirmed that sub-folders have
this
property as well.

* Select Tools | Mailbox Cleanup | Auto Archive

* Runs for a while, status at bottom of window shows archiving zzz
folder
and changes as it presumably goes about its business.

* Archive PST does contain a duplicate of the main mailbox PST, but no
messages can be found in any of the folders.

* I went back through the main PST, and found many messages dated far
beyond
the x months I stipulated for archival.

* Main PST file size does not appear to have decreased.

* Archive PST file size does not appear to have increased.


RESOLUTION SOUGHT:

* Understanding of error.

* Understanding of correction of error

* Archival of main PST messages to reduce file size and increase


  #9  
Old January 24th 08, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Deputy5211
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Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Brian,

As an MVP-Outlook, I am sure that you have probably forgotten more about
Outlook than I may ever know. Which begs the question: You have posted
twice in this thread, and neither one has offered a shred of assistance, why?


As for your "don't surprise me" statement where you state that importing
"always" has unexpected side effects, again, not helpful, painted with an
overly broad brush, and besides, "always" and "never" rarely tell it like it
really is. One could say that waking up each morning often has unexpected
side effects. Technically true, but such statements are probably of little,
if any, benefit.

If you have something to add to this thread, I actively seek your input; I
can use much assistance and guidance as I work through this. If all you are
going to do is puff up your chest, criticize and make statements so vague and
"absolute" as you have, I am certain there are other things you can be doing
with your time that are more befitting your stature and self-appreciation
than bothering with mere newbies such as myself.

With all due respect, thank you for your input. Make it a great day!



"Brian Tillman" wrote:

Deputy5211 wrote:

Do you have any information or insight into to the problem I
described?


I don't see where you answered Diane's question in your original thread.
Frankly, the problems you described don't surprise me because importing
always has unexpected side-effects.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]


  #10  
Old January 24th 08, 08:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Posts: 17,452
Default OL 2007 Auto Archiving Errors/Cannot read archive properties f

Deputy5211 wrote:

As for your "don't surprise me" statement where you state that
importing "always" has unexpected side effects, again, not helpful,
painted with an overly broad brush, and besides, "always" and "never"
rarely tell it like it really is. One could say that waking up each
morning often has unexpected side effects. Technically true, but
such statements are probably of little, if any, benefit.


Since the specific issues importing causes have been posted innumerable
times, I don't see it necessary to repeat them yet again. Anyone with a
search engine can find them in ten seconds.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 




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